(06-24-2021 07:22 PM)nworocket Wrote:  I'm sure a lot of people on here won't like college athletes getting paid, but this is long overdue.

(06-25-2021 12:15 AM)Babes boy Wrote:  This could go in so many different ways. The top tier schools such as osu wichigan Bama and some others will have a big advantage over many other schools. The rest of the power 5 will be in much better position than the group of 5 schools. They need to get this worked out before things are out of control. Because there’s going to be large scale payola going on. We all know it’s going to happen. There is talk of athletes getting paid for their likeness and names. Will they get paid for endorsements. How much will a student from OSU get for saying he likes Bingo Bobs restaurant compared a student from Toledo?

(06-24-2021 07:22 PM)nworocket Wrote:  I'm sure a lot of people on here won't like college athletes getting paid, but this is long overdue.

(06-25-2021 11:23 AM)Party on the hill Wrote:  

(06-24-2021 07:22 PM)nworocket Wrote:  I'm sure a lot of people on here won't like college athletes getting paid, but this is long overdue.

Please tell me where the money will come from to pay these athletes? Especially on the G5 level and lower! Actions and desires have consequences!

(06-25-2021 12:42 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-25-2021 11:23 AM)Party on the hill Wrote:  

(06-24-2021 07:22 PM)nworocket Wrote:  I'm sure a lot of people on here won't like college athletes getting paid, but this is long overdue.

Please tell me where the money will come from to pay these athletes? Especially on the G5 level and lower! Actions and desires have consequences!

It will come from the private companies who will use their likenesses for marketing/promotional purposes and deem said athletes as being marketable for their brand. Not really rocket science.

(06-25-2021 01:43 PM)Sleepy Wrote:  

(06-25-2021 12:42 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-25-2021 11:23 AM)Party on the hill Wrote:  

(06-24-2021 07:22 PM)nworocket Wrote:  I'm sure a lot of people on here won't like college athletes getting paid, but this is long overdue.

Please tell me where the money will come from to pay these athletes? Especially on the G5 level and lower! Actions and desires have consequences!

It will come from the private companies who will use their likenesses for marketing/promotional purposes and deem said athletes as being marketable for their brand. Not really rocket science.

It will go well beyong corporate sponsors. Essentially Universities will be in bidding wars to purchase the services of the best eligible athletes available.

"The substantive decision in this case would allow a university or conference to provide benefits that cannot be capped by the NCAA as long as they are tethered to education... the rules for what can and cannot be offered are likely to be institutional. "If you're a star gymnast and you're 17 years old and choosing between three different schools, those schools theoretically could offer you all sorts of academically related benefits," said Luck. "A year abroad, internships. They could pay for your law school or medical school if you decided to."
https://www.npr.org/2021/06/21/1000310043/the-supreme-court-sides-with-ncaa-athletes-in-a-narrow-ruling

(06-25-2021 12:42 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-25-2021 11:23 AM)Party on the hill Wrote:  

(06-24-2021 07:22 PM)nworocket Wrote:  I'm sure a lot of people on here won't like college athletes getting paid, but this is long overdue.

Please tell me where the money will come from to pay these athletes? Especially on the G5 level and lower! Actions and desires have consequences!

It will come from the private companies who will use their likenesses for marketing/promotional purposes and deem said athletes as being marketable for their brand. Not really rocket science.

(06-28-2021 08:40 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  

(06-25-2021 12:42 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-25-2021 11:23 AM)Party on the hill Wrote:  

(06-24-2021 07:22 PM)nworocket Wrote:  I'm sure a lot of people on here won't like college athletes getting paid, but this is long overdue.

Please tell me where the money will come from to pay these athletes? Especially on the G5 level and lower! Actions and desires have consequences!

It will come from the private companies who will use their likenesses for marketing/promotional purposes and deem said athletes as being marketable for their brand. Not really rocket science.

For MAC athletes?

(06-28-2021 08:50 AM)Party on the hill Wrote:  I believe that it will be difficult for UT to recruit the athletes that we compete with from the lower P5 schools (Indiana, Illinois, Kentucky, etc) The extra cash that they get from TV rights etc.. will be the tipping point for some kids. I wonder if we would have been able to sign Kareem, Barry Church, and Chester Taylor had this rule been in effect.

(06-28-2021 08:50 AM)Party on the hill Wrote:  I believe that it will be difficult for UT to recruit the athletes that we compete with from the lower P5 schools (Indiana, Illinois, Kentucky, etc) The extra cash that they get from TV rights etc.. will be the tipping point for some kids. I wonder if we would have been able to sign Kareem, Barry Church, and Chester Taylor had this rule been in effect.

(06-28-2021 11:09 AM)PaulJ Wrote:  

(06-28-2021 08:50 AM)Party on the hill Wrote:  I believe that it will be difficult for UT to recruit the athletes that we compete with from the lower P5 schools (Indiana, Illinois, Kentucky, etc) The extra cash that they get from TV rights etc.. will be the tipping point for some kids. I wonder if we would have been able to sign Kareem, Barry Church, and Chester Taylor had this rule been in effect.

Even with the extra cash from TV contacts, lower P5 schools are still subsidized from the college operating budgets, its not like they have money sitting around to pay student athletics as many run on small fixed budgets with no excess revenues. Big name schools, sports and small number of big name players (CFB, MBB) will benefit, but 99% of the millions of college student athletics will receive little if any.

(06-28-2021 07:47 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-25-2021 01:43 PM)Sleepy Wrote:  

(06-25-2021 12:42 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-25-2021 11:23 AM)Party on the hill Wrote:  

(06-24-2021 07:22 PM)nworocket Wrote:  I'm sure a lot of people on here won't like college athletes getting paid, but this is long overdue.

Please tell me where the money will come from to pay these athletes? Especially on the G5 level and lower! Actions and desires have consequences!

It will come from the private companies who will use their likenesses for marketing/promotional purposes and deem said athletes as being marketable for their brand. Not really rocket science.

It will go well beyong corporate sponsors. Essentially Universities will be in bidding wars to purchase the services of the best eligible athletes available.

"The substantive decision in this case would allow a university or conference to provide benefits that cannot be capped by the NCAA as long as they are tethered to education... the rules for what can and cannot be offered are likely to be institutional. "If you're a star gymnast and you're 17 years old and choosing between three different schools, those schools theoretically could offer you all sorts of academically related benefits," said Luck. "A year abroad, internships. They could pay for your law school or medical school if you decided to."
https://www.npr.org/2021/06/21/1000310043/the-supreme-court-sides-with-ncaa-athletes-in-a-narrow-ruling

Universities have to justify educational needs being met...it won't be Universities writing $100,000 checks like some people seem to think. I'm fine with this, as I was a student athlete who wasn't allowed to take advantage of an international leadership program through my alma mater because it was above the allotted amount the University could offer me in a given year. I also wasn't allowed to collect my salary for my first co-op because I listed that I was a student-athlete on my resume (thankfully that stupid regulation has since been struck down). Truth be told, this won't affect schools like UT/MAC...with the budget situations they're all in, there is no way that they're going to be dumping more money into things, even with the fund budgeting required allowing for some monkeying around with numbers after academic awards are received. I'm perfectly fine with Universities developing more academic opportunities for S-As, since most of the time that's the area that tends to go by the way-side for most due to the time draws of the sports they play. If I was offered a study abroad or a graduate degree at the institution's behest, I would have been through the moon because every other student also has those offers available to them at most schools.

The huge checks that people complain about will be coming from private companies...it isn't the Universities giving money to people. Free market enthusiasts should have nothing wrong with companies being able to choose what S-As they deem valuable enough for their marketing budget or not.

(06-28-2021 02:23 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(06-28-2021 07:47 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-25-2021 01:43 PM)Sleepy Wrote:  

(06-25-2021 12:42 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-25-2021 11:23 AM)Party on the hill Wrote:  Please tell me where the money will come from to pay these athletes? Especially on the G5 level and lower! Actions and desires have consequences!

It will come from the private companies who will use their likenesses for marketing/promotional purposes and deem said athletes as being marketable for their brand. Not really rocket science.

It will go well beyong corporate sponsors. Essentially Universities will be in bidding wars to purchase the services of the best eligible athletes available.

"The substantive decision in this case would allow a university or conference to provide benefits that cannot be capped by the NCAA as long as they are tethered to education... the rules for what can and cannot be offered are likely to be institutional. "If you're a star gymnast and you're 17 years old and choosing between three different schools, those schools theoretically could offer you all sorts of academically related benefits," said Luck. "A year abroad, internships. They could pay for your law school or medical school if you decided to."
https://www.npr.org/2021/06/21/1000310043/the-supreme-court-sides-with-ncaa-athletes-in-a-narrow-ruling

Universities have to justify educational needs being met...it won't be Universities writing $100,000 checks like some people seem to think. I'm fine with this, as I was a student athlete who wasn't allowed to take advantage of an international leadership program through my alma mater because it was above the allotted amount the University could offer me in a given year. I also wasn't allowed to collect my salary for my first co-op because I listed that I was a student-athlete on my resume (thankfully that stupid regulation has since been struck down). Truth be told, this won't affect schools like UT/MAC...with the budget situations they're all in, there is no way that they're going to be dumping more money into things, even with the fund budgeting required allowing for some monkeying around with numbers after academic awards are received. I'm perfectly fine with Universities developing more academic opportunities for S-As, since most of the time that's the area that tends to go by the way-side for most due to the time draws of the sports they play. If I was offered a study abroad or a graduate degree at the institution's behest, I would have been through the moon because every other student also has those offers available to them at most schools.

The huge checks that people complain about will be coming from private companies...it isn't the Universities giving money to people. Free market enthusiasts should have nothing wrong with companies being able to choose what S-As they deem valuable enough for their marketing budget or not.

An athlete is a student first. Any funds a university disperses towards a non-athlete's education, should be available to an athlete. Those disparities you mentioned should never have happened.

Hopefully this ruling eliminates any pressure on the Universities to not treat student-athletes as any other student. The concerns that it goes beyond that are justified though. More court cases to come, I'm sure.