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RE: WAC Preseason MBB Polls & Recognition - Lopes87 - 06-23-2021 04:40 PM

(06-23-2021 08:37 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(06-22-2021 10:38 AM)TexasTerror Wrote:  Here's another one.



Seems legit...

I think its going to be very hard to predict this next years WAC but I don't think SFA GCU ACU CBU are scared to play NMSU.

NMSU added Allen but PG is a question mark and NMSU had issues staying healthy and being consistent. I understand they played away from home last year. They struggled vs GCU who last year was less athletic than they are this year. However I do think playing and practicing on campus will be a positive for NMSU.

Tanner is the master mind behind ACU's defense Golding has even said this in the past.

SFA will have plenty of fire power to match what NMSU and GCU.

I also think


RE: WAC Preseason MBB Polls & Recognition - PojoaquePosse - 06-24-2021 08:51 AM

(06-23-2021 02:42 PM)OscarWildeCat Wrote:  
(06-23-2021 01:14 PM)FINALFOUR1970SWEETSIXTEEN1992 Wrote:  NMSU most likely has the top two players in the entire conference in Teddy Allen (16.5 PPG) and Jabari Rice (13.2 PPG). Then add Tillman (11.6 PPG) who was once the PAC-12 sixth man of the year and Johnny McCants (10 PPG). That's why NMSU is the clear favorite.

Think Allen will still be around by then? 5 schools, yikes!

Zach Lofton went to 5 schools. I believe Queen did as well. How did those 2 guys pan out?


RE: WAC Preseason MBB Polls & Recognition - PojoaquePosse - 06-24-2021 08:57 AM

For the record, the TX4 joined the WAC and NMSU. Not the other way around. They did that for a reason. I agree no one is afraid to play NMSU (or anyone else for that matter). But NMSU is king of the hill and those schools wanted in with a shot to climb the hill.

Congrats to GCU and the good season they had last year. Let's see if they can keep up that success for the next 10-15 years. NMSU has already proven they can sustain success over a very long period of time.


RE: WAC Preseason MBB Polls & Recognition - Lopes87 - 06-24-2021 10:24 AM

(06-24-2021 08:57 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  For the record, the TX4 joined the WAC and NMSU. Not the other way around. They did that for a reason. I agree no one is afraid to play NMSU (or anyone else for that matter). But NMSU is king of the hill and those schools wanted in with a shot to climb the hill.

Congrats to GCU and the good season they had last year. Let's see if they can keep up that success for the next 10-15 years. NMSU has already proven they can sustain success over a very long period of time.

I mean how difficult has it been for NMSU the last decade if we just go off of SOS while playing current in the current WAC.

13/14 -2.58
14/15 -3.67
15/16 -3.54
16/17 -3.82
17/18 -1.10
18/19 -2.38
19/20 -4.24
20/21 -5.09


I know SOS isn't an absolute but it helps tells the truth that NMSU scheduling tougher non league games helped offset how weak the WAC has been and without those non league matchups their SOS would be even more in the negative. NMSU has made 9 tournaments in the last 20 years and 5 of the last 7 years ( I'm not counting the 19/20 season) which isn't bad at all but being the most established D1 program in WAC 2.0 is an advantage but if I'm an Aggie fan I'm not apologizing for but I'd probably recognize the advantages my school has had for a while in WAC 2.0. I don't think we see any school in WAC 3.0 run off a clip of 5 out of 7 years making it to the tournament. WAC 3.0 have established programs coming in while having young D1 programs like ACU and GCU figuring things out with CBU more than likely not far behind. It's going to be a fun future for all of us and the schools.


RE: WAC Preseason MBB Polls & Recognition - PojoaquePosse - 06-24-2021 12:16 PM

(06-24-2021 10:24 AM)Lopes87 Wrote:  
(06-24-2021 08:57 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  For the record, the TX4 joined the WAC and NMSU. Not the other way around. They did that for a reason. I agree no one is afraid to play NMSU (or anyone else for that matter). But NMSU is king of the hill and those schools wanted in with a shot to climb the hill.

Congrats to GCU and the good season they had last year. Let's see if they can keep up that success for the next 10-15 years. NMSU has already proven they can sustain success over a very long period of time.

I mean how difficult has it been for NMSU the last decade if we just go off of SOS while playing current in the current WAC.

13/14 -2.58
14/15 -3.67
15/16 -3.54
16/17 -3.82
17/18 -1.10
18/19 -2.38
19/20 -4.24
20/21 -5.09


I know SOS isn't an absolute but it helps tells the truth that NMSU scheduling tougher non league games helped offset how weak the WAC has been and without those non league matchups their SOS would be even more in the negative. NMSU has made 9 tournaments in the last 20 years and 5 of the last 7 years ( I'm not counting the 19/20 season) which isn't bad at all but being the most established D1 program in WAC 2.0 is an advantage but if I'm an Aggie fan I'm not apologizing for but I'd probably recognize the advantages my school has had for a while in WAC 2.0. I don't think we see any school in WAC 3.0 run off a clip of 5 out of 7 years making it to the tournament. WAC 3.0 have established programs coming in while having young D1 programs like ACU and GCU figuring things out with CBU more than likely not far behind. It's going to be a fun future for all of us and the schools.

Since 2010, NMSU has made the tourney 8 times. They almost assuredly would have made it in 2019-2020 if not for COVID (16-0 in the WAC, 19 game win streak, win over Mississippi State, a team that also would have made the tourney and sent 2 players to the NBA).

I agree that the WAC 2.0, with few exceptions, dragged our SOS down. I also fully expect WAC 3.0 to be much better and will be much more difficult to win. I am in favor of all of that. Loob fans insinuate that NMSU likes the watered down WAC and being a big fish in a small pond. Not true. We want a stronger WAC and realize a stronger WAC will be harder to win. That's a good thing.

I fully expect NMSU to be in the mix to win regular season and tourney titles every year in WAC 3.0. Being in the mix every year and winning every year are two different things. But I would expect to be in, say, the top 3 year in and year out. We were in the mix every year in WAC 1.0 which was much stronger than WAC 3.0.


RE: WAC Preseason MBB Polls & Recognition - Lopes87 - 06-24-2021 01:34 PM

(06-24-2021 12:16 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(06-24-2021 10:24 AM)Lopes87 Wrote:  
(06-24-2021 08:57 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  For the record, the TX4 joined the WAC and NMSU. Not the other way around. They did that for a reason. I agree no one is afraid to play NMSU (or anyone else for that matter). But NMSU is king of the hill and those schools wanted in with a shot to climb the hill.

Congrats to GCU and the good season they had last year. Let's see if they can keep up that success for the next 10-15 years. NMSU has already proven they can sustain success over a very long period of time.

I mean how difficult has it been for NMSU the last decade if we just go off of SOS while playing current in the current WAC.

13/14 -2.58
14/15 -3.67
15/16 -3.54
16/17 -3.82
17/18 -1.10
18/19 -2.38
19/20 -4.24
20/21 -5.09


I know SOS isn't an absolute but it helps tells the truth that NMSU scheduling tougher non league games helped offset how weak the WAC has been and without those non league matchups their SOS would be even more in the negative. NMSU has made 9 tournaments in the last 20 years and 5 of the last 7 years ( I'm not counting the 19/20 season) which isn't bad at all but being the most established D1 program in WAC 2.0 is an advantage but if I'm an Aggie fan I'm not apologizing for but I'd probably recognize the advantages my school has had for a while in WAC 2.0. I don't think we see any school in WAC 3.0 run off a clip of 5 out of 7 years making it to the tournament. WAC 3.0 have established programs coming in while having young D1 programs like ACU and GCU figuring things out with CBU more than likely not far behind. It's going to be a fun future for all of us and the schools.

Since 2010, NMSU has made the tourney 8 times. They almost assuredly would have made it in 2019-2020 if not for COVID (16-0 in the WAC, 19 game win streak, win over Mississippi State, a team that also would have made the tourney and sent 2 players to the NBA).

I agree that the WAC 2.0, with few exceptions, dragged our SOS down. I also fully expect WAC 3.0 to be much better and will be much more difficult to win. I am in favor of all of that. Loob fans insinuate that NMSU likes the watered down WAC and being a big fish in a small pond. Not true. We want a stronger WAC and realize a stronger WAC will be harder to win. That's a good thing.

I fully expect NMSU to be in the mix to win regular season and tourney titles every year in WAC 3.0. Being in the mix every year and winning every year are two different things. But I would expect to be in, say, the top 3 year in and year out. We were in the mix every year in WAC 1.0 which was much stronger than WAC 3.0.

I think most years there will be 4 constants in NMSU GCU SFA ACU.
WAC 1.0 tough for sure. WAC 2.0 NMSU had a wider margin of error than the WAC had as a footprint. WAC 3.0 a notch below WAC 1.0 but will get fan bases juicing for mud slinging for sure.


RE: WAC Preseason MBB Polls & Recognition - PojoaquePosse - 06-24-2021 01:44 PM

(06-24-2021 01:34 PM)Lopes87 Wrote:  
(06-24-2021 12:16 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(06-24-2021 10:24 AM)Lopes87 Wrote:  
(06-24-2021 08:57 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  For the record, the TX4 joined the WAC and NMSU. Not the other way around. They did that for a reason. I agree no one is afraid to play NMSU (or anyone else for that matter). But NMSU is king of the hill and those schools wanted in with a shot to climb the hill.

Congrats to GCU and the good season they had last year. Let's see if they can keep up that success for the next 10-15 years. NMSU has already proven they can sustain success over a very long period of time.

I mean how difficult has it been for NMSU the last decade if we just go off of SOS while playing current in the current WAC.

13/14 -2.58
14/15 -3.67
15/16 -3.54
16/17 -3.82
17/18 -1.10
18/19 -2.38
19/20 -4.24
20/21 -5.09


I know SOS isn't an absolute but it helps tells the truth that NMSU scheduling tougher non league games helped offset how weak the WAC has been and without those non league matchups their SOS would be even more in the negative. NMSU has made 9 tournaments in the last 20 years and 5 of the last 7 years ( I'm not counting the 19/20 season) which isn't bad at all but being the most established D1 program in WAC 2.0 is an advantage but if I'm an Aggie fan I'm not apologizing for but I'd probably recognize the advantages my school has had for a while in WAC 2.0. I don't think we see any school in WAC 3.0 run off a clip of 5 out of 7 years making it to the tournament. WAC 3.0 have established programs coming in while having young D1 programs like ACU and GCU figuring things out with CBU more than likely not far behind. It's going to be a fun future for all of us and the schools.

Since 2010, NMSU has made the tourney 8 times. They almost assuredly would have made it in 2019-2020 if not for COVID (16-0 in the WAC, 19 game win streak, win over Mississippi State, a team that also would have made the tourney and sent 2 players to the NBA).

I agree that the WAC 2.0, with few exceptions, dragged our SOS down. I also fully expect WAC 3.0 to be much better and will be much more difficult to win. I am in favor of all of that. Loob fans insinuate that NMSU likes the watered down WAC and being a big fish in a small pond. Not true. We want a stronger WAC and realize a stronger WAC will be harder to win. That's a good thing.

I fully expect NMSU to be in the mix to win regular season and tourney titles every year in WAC 3.0. Being in the mix every year and winning every year are two different things. But I would expect to be in, say, the top 3 year in and year out. We were in the mix every year in WAC 1.0 which was much stronger than WAC 3.0.

I think most years there will be 4 constants in NMSU GCU SFA ACU.
WAC 1.0 tough for sure. WAC 2.0 NMSU had a wider margin of error than the WAC had as a footprint. WAC 3.0 a notch below WAC 1.0 but will get fan bases juicing for mud slinging for sure.

I agree with everything.


RE: WAC Preseason MBB Polls & Recognition - FirstandGoal - 06-24-2021 04:57 PM

(06-24-2021 01:44 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(06-24-2021 01:34 PM)Lopes87 Wrote:  
(06-24-2021 12:16 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(06-24-2021 10:24 AM)Lopes87 Wrote:  
(06-24-2021 08:57 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  For the record, the TX4 joined the WAC and NMSU. Not the other way around. They did that for a reason. I agree no one is afraid to play NMSU (or anyone else for that matter). But NMSU is king of the hill and those schools wanted in with a shot to climb the hill.

Congrats to GCU and the good season they had last year. Let's see if they can keep up that success for the next 10-15 years. NMSU has already proven they can sustain success over a very long period of time.

I mean how difficult has it been for NMSU the last decade if we just go off of SOS while playing current in the current WAC.

13/14 -2.58
14/15 -3.67
15/16 -3.54
16/17 -3.82
17/18 -1.10
18/19 -2.38
19/20 -4.24
20/21 -5.09


I know SOS isn't an absolute but it helps tells the truth that NMSU scheduling tougher non league games helped offset how weak the WAC has been and without those non league matchups their SOS would be even more in the negative. NMSU has made 9 tournaments in the last 20 years and 5 of the last 7 years ( I'm not counting the 19/20 season) which isn't bad at all but being the most established D1 program in WAC 2.0 is an advantage but if I'm an Aggie fan I'm not apologizing for but I'd probably recognize the advantages my school has had for a while in WAC 2.0. I don't think we see any school in WAC 3.0 run off a clip of 5 out of 7 years making it to the tournament. WAC 3.0 have established programs coming in while having young D1 programs like ACU and GCU figuring things out with CBU more than likely not far behind. It's going to be a fun future for all of us and the schools.

Since 2010, NMSU has made the tourney 8 times. They almost assuredly would have made it in 2019-2020 if not for COVID (16-0 in the WAC, 19 game win streak, win over Mississippi State, a team that also would have made the tourney and sent 2 players to the NBA).

I agree that the WAC 2.0, with few exceptions, dragged our SOS down. I also fully expect WAC 3.0 to be much better and will be much more difficult to win. I am in favor of all of that. Loob fans insinuate that NMSU likes the watered down WAC and being a big fish in a small pond. Not true. We want a stronger WAC and realize a stronger WAC will be harder to win. That's a good thing.

I fully expect NMSU to be in the mix to win regular season and tourney titles every year in WAC 3.0. Being in the mix every year and winning every year are two different things. But I would expect to be in, say, the top 3 year in and year out. We were in the mix every year in WAC 1.0 which was much stronger than WAC 3.0.

I think most years there will be 4 constants in NMSU GCU SFA ACU.
WAC 1.0 tough for sure. WAC 2.0 NMSU had a wider margin of error than the WAC had as a footprint. WAC 3.0 a notch below WAC 1.0 but will get fan bases juicing for mud slinging for sure.

I agree with everything.

I don't know enough about NMSU or GCU but ACU is like other short time D1 programs, it depends on recruiting and coaching. Both will have to be above average to win consistently in this conference. The other three that came from the SLC have all had multi year strings of being at or near the top. Sam and Lamar aren't that far behind SFA and I believe Lamar improved both their coaching and recruiting.


RE: WAC Preseason MBB Polls & Recognition - NMSUPistolPete - 06-28-2021 06:17 AM

(06-24-2021 04:57 PM)FirstandGoal Wrote:  
(06-24-2021 01:44 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(06-24-2021 01:34 PM)Lopes87 Wrote:  
(06-24-2021 12:16 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(06-24-2021 10:24 AM)Lopes87 Wrote:  I mean how difficult has it been for NMSU the last decade if we just go off of SOS while playing current in the current WAC.

13/14 -2.58
14/15 -3.67
15/16 -3.54
16/17 -3.82
17/18 -1.10
18/19 -2.38
19/20 -4.24
20/21 -5.09


I know SOS isn't an absolute but it helps tells the truth that NMSU scheduling tougher non league games helped offset how weak the WAC has been and without those non league matchups their SOS would be even more in the negative. NMSU has made 9 tournaments in the last 20 years and 5 of the last 7 years ( I'm not counting the 19/20 season) which isn't bad at all but being the most established D1 program in WAC 2.0 is an advantage but if I'm an Aggie fan I'm not apologizing for but I'd probably recognize the advantages my school has had for a while in WAC 2.0. I don't think we see any school in WAC 3.0 run off a clip of 5 out of 7 years making it to the tournament. WAC 3.0 have established programs coming in while having young D1 programs like ACU and GCU figuring things out with CBU more than likely not far behind. It's going to be a fun future for all of us and the schools.

Since 2010, NMSU has made the tourney 8 times. They almost assuredly would have made it in 2019-2020 if not for COVID (16-0 in the WAC, 19 game win streak, win over Mississippi State, a team that also would have made the tourney and sent 2 players to the NBA).

I agree that the WAC 2.0, with few exceptions, dragged our SOS down. I also fully expect WAC 3.0 to be much better and will be much more difficult to win. I am in favor of all of that. Loob fans insinuate that NMSU likes the watered down WAC and being a big fish in a small pond. Not true. We want a stronger WAC and realize a stronger WAC will be harder to win. That's a good thing.

I fully expect NMSU to be in the mix to win regular season and tourney titles every year in WAC 3.0. Being in the mix every year and winning every year are two different things. But I would expect to be in, say, the top 3 year in and year out. We were in the mix every year in WAC 1.0 which was much stronger than WAC 3.0.

I think most years there will be 4 constants in NMSU GCU SFA ACU.
WAC 1.0 tough for sure. WAC 2.0 NMSU had a wider margin of error than the WAC had as a footprint. WAC 3.0 a notch below WAC 1.0 but will get fan bases juicing for mud slinging for sure.

I agree with everything.

I don't know enough about NMSU or GCU but ACU is like other short time D1 programs, it depends on recruiting and coaching. Both will have to be above average to win consistently in this conference. The other three that came from the SLC have all had multi year strings of being at or near the top. Sam and Lamar aren't that far behind SFA and I believe Lamar improved both their coaching and recruiting.

I think once a basketball program proves to be a winner over numerous years through multiple coaching changes, they're now a perpetual successful program that has an established winning tradition; that draws in better players like moths to a flame. Right now, I would put NMSU and SFA in that category. As for GCU, they are a newbie with a plan and a lot of money to invest. They have poured a lot of money creating their own reality; transitioning from primarily an online school to a new large on-campus environment; the building of a state of the art basketball arena (and other sports facilities); then quickly expanding GCU arena even further while the iron is hot; and the creation of a choreographed student section (the Havoc) that rivals those at the P5 programs. GCU has created an impressive basketball environment.

As for the rest of the WAC 3.0 (actually more revisions than that), until proven otherwise, the success of most those programs are built on the current head coach and players on the roster. If the coach leaves and once the players graduate, it is hard to duplicate (sustain) the same success year after year. The longevity of the ACU program will now get tested with the loss of Golding. Can the Wildcat program sustain its recent success under Tanner? After Cal State Bakersfield had a breakthrough year in the WAC by beating NMSU in the WAC Championship, the Roadrunner program quickly slid back into mediocrity as the team chemistry (winning) fizzled out with the graduation of a specific core group of players. Barnes caught lightening in a bottle but didn't really develop a sustainable winning program; just a couple winning seasons built on specific players. GCU is the second WAC 2.0 team to unseat NMSU in the WAC tournament, we will see what Drew has instore for an encore.


RE: WAC Preseason MBB Polls & Recognition - FirstandGoal - 06-28-2021 08:56 AM

I think you have to define a successful program. That is harder to do than it sounds and is easier to loose than one might think. One thing that "perpetually successful" programs have is long duration head coaches. Even schools that were once the elite at the national level find it hard to stay there following a coaching change. When was the last time Indiana won their conference much less a national title? Did UCLA maintain their success once John Wooden retired? On the other hand look at Gonzaga, Few has been there for many years and the programs success has grown on his ability to build it over the years. One bad hire, or impatient fan base can topple years of success.


RE: WAC Preseason MBB Polls & Recognition - PojoaquePosse - 06-28-2021 12:49 PM

(06-28-2021 08:56 AM)FirstandGoal Wrote:  I think you have to define a successful program. That is harder to do than it sounds and is easier to loose than one might think. One thing that "perpetually successful" programs have is long duration head coaches. Even schools that were once the elite at the national level find it hard to stay there following a coaching change. When was the last time Indiana won their conference much less a national title? Did UCLA maintain their success once John Wooden retired? On the other hand look at Gonzaga, Few has been there for many years and the programs success has grown on his ability to build it over the years. One bad hire, or impatient fan base can topple years of success.

NMSU is a successful program by any measure:

19 - CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS
150 + CONFERENCE WINS IN LAST 10 SEASONS
25 - NCAA TOURNAMENT APPEARANCES (8 IN THE LAST 11 SEASONS)
5 - NIT APPEARANCES
1 - FINAL FOUR APPEARANCE

We have won with multiple coaches. We have gone to the NCAA in every decade since the 1950's. We have won in multiple conferences. We have won when we were Independent. You mention Indiana, UCLA, Gonzaga, etc. That's a whole different level of "success". But by mid-major standards, NMSU is a successful program.


RE: WAC Preseason MBB Polls & Recognition - NMSUPistolPete - 06-28-2021 01:41 PM

(06-28-2021 08:56 AM)FirstandGoal Wrote:  I think you have to define a successful program. That is harder to do than it sounds and is easier to loose than one might think. One thing that "perpetually successful" programs have is long duration head coaches. Even schools that were once the elite at the national level find it hard to stay there following a coaching change. When was the last time Indiana won their conference much less a national title? Did UCLA maintain their success once John Wooden retired? On the other hand look at Gonzaga, Few has been there for many years and the programs success has grown on his ability to build it over the years. One bad hire, or impatient fan base can topple years of success.

That's why it is incumbent on an AD to vet potential head coaching candidates and make a good hire. At the mid-major level, being a head basketball coach at NMSU is a prize job. The winner tradition, fan base, and facilities are all in place to make head coach's job much easier. NMSU has a very good AD who might be a more important person in keeping here than any head coach in the athletic department.


RE: WAC Preseason MBB Polls & Recognition - FirstandGoal - 06-28-2021 01:47 PM

(06-28-2021 12:49 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(06-28-2021 08:56 AM)FirstandGoal Wrote:  I think you have to define a successful program. That is harder to do than it sounds and is easier to loose than one might think. One thing that "perpetually successful" programs have is long duration head coaches. Even schools that were once the elite at the national level find it hard to stay there following a coaching change. When was the last time Indiana won their conference much less a national title? Did UCLA maintain their success once John Wooden retired? On the other hand look at Gonzaga, Few has been there for many years and the programs success has grown on his ability to build it over the years. One bad hire, or impatient fan base can topple years of success.

NMSU is a successful program by any measure:

19 - CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS
150 + CONFERENCE WINS IN LAST 10 SEASONS
25 - NCAA TOURNAMENT APPEARANCES (8 IN THE LAST 11 SEASONS)
5 - NIT APPEARANCES
1 - FINAL FOUR APPEARANCE

We have won with multiple coaches. We have gone to the NCAA in every decade since the 1950's. We have won in multiple conferences. We have won when we were Independent. You mention Indiana, UCLA, Gonzaga, etc. That's a whole different level of "success". But by mid-major standards, NMSU is a successful program.

I fully agree that NMSU has been a successful program, but you supported one of my points. You defined why you believe NMSU is a successful program and yet you concede it is a different success level than some historical programs. Indiana, UCLA and Gonzaga (which by the way is in a mid-major conference) all had or have coaches with long tenure while they were at or near the top. I would also inject that in the late 1970's and early 80's Lamar was a successful program but some bad hires put it on a downward spiral that it has yet to break out from to date. We will see what happens under Coach Brooks. Lamar made it to the NCCAA tourney in at least four of the last five decades, but even as a Lamar fan I don't count them as a currently successful program. Hope this changes under Coach Brooks.


RE: WAC Preseason MBB Polls & Recognition - FirstandGoal - 06-28-2021 01:51 PM

(06-28-2021 01:41 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(06-28-2021 08:56 AM)FirstandGoal Wrote:  I think you have to define a successful program. That is harder to do than it sounds and is easier to loose than one might think. One thing that "perpetually successful" programs have is long duration head coaches. Even schools that were once the elite at the national level find it hard to stay there following a coaching change. When was the last time Indiana won their conference much less a national title? Did UCLA maintain their success once John Wooden retired? On the other hand look at Gonzaga, Few has been there for many years and the programs success has grown on his ability to build it over the years. One bad hire, or impatient fan base can topple years of success.

That's why it is incumbent on an AD to vet potential head coaching candidates and make a good hire. At the mid-major level, being a head basketball coach at NMSU is a prize job. The winner tradition, fan base, and facilities are all in place to make head coach's job much easier. NMSU has a very good AD who might be a more important person in keeping here than any head coach in the athletic department.

I would also agree that a good AD is a critical component of continued success.


RE: WAC Preseason MBB Polls & Recognition - TexanFan - 06-28-2021 08:39 PM

Saw on Twitter tonight, Fardaws Aimaq will announce his decision for returning to school this fall on July 7th.


RE: WAC Preseason MBB Polls & Recognition - NMSUPistolPete - 06-28-2021 09:29 PM

(06-28-2021 08:39 PM)TexanFan Wrote:  Saw on Twitter tonight, Fardaws Aimaq will announce his decision for returning to school this fall on July 7th.

I think Aimaq is impressing some NBA evaluators during his workouts, but I'm not sure it is enough to get drafted. Aimaq is a tweener between a center and a power forward. I'm not sure he is agile enough to defend out in the open court nor is he thick enough to post up true NBA centers. In the WAC, Aimaq is a man among boys in the paint. In the NBA, he is a man among bigger, stronger, more athletic men. JMHO.


RE: WAC Preseason MBB Polls & Recognition - PojoaquePosse - 06-29-2021 09:38 AM





RE: WAC Preseason MBB Polls & Recognition - NMSUPistolPete - 06-29-2021 10:38 AM

I think Aimaq has NBA potential. But I see him as a second unit type add; coming off the bench. With most franchises only getting two draft picks (1st round, 2nd round) per draft, I'm not sure they want to invest a draft pick on him and would rather pick him up as a undrafted free agent. Who knowns I might be wrong but I don't see him possessing the same athleticism and versatility as a players like Siakam. Although, he has done a lot of off season work to improve his body. If Aimaq does get drafted, I see him as a late 2nd rounder at best. But honestly, I'm not sure another season at Utah Valley will improve his prospects. So, maybe this is the right time for him to roll the dice.


RE: WAC Preseason MBB Polls & Recognition - FirstandGoal - 06-29-2021 01:36 PM

(06-29-2021 10:38 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  I think Aimaq has NBA potential. But I see him as a second unit type add; coming off the bench. With most franchises only getting two draft picks (1st round, 2nd round) per draft, I'm not sure they want to invest a draft pick on him and would rather pick him up as a undrafted free agent. Who knowns I might be wrong but I don't see him possessing the same athleticism and versatility as a players like Siakam. Although, he has done a lot of off season work to improve his body. If Aimaq does get drafted, I see him as a late 2nd rounder at best. But honestly, I'm not sure another season at Utah Valley will improve his prospects. So, maybe this is the right time for him to roll the dice.

Since I mostly follow Lamar, I never saw him play last year but from the descriptions on this thread it sounds like at minimum he could play overseas right now and possibly G League. His decision seems to boil down to does he want a paycheck or an education.


RE: WAC Preseason MBB Polls & Recognition - TexasTerror - 07-07-2021 11:43 AM

This is a significant news announcement for the WAC and will probably figure into the preseason teams, ranking discussion that has been on our boards to date