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What Fuels Our Rivalries? - sportprof101 - 01-13-2021 11:29 AM
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RE: What Fuels Our Rivalries? - Monarchblue - 01-13-2021 02:09 PM
This is sad. I took this survey and could not think of a single legit rival for ODU football. Looking at the results after I completed my survey, confirmed that we do not have anything that could be called a rival. We have got to find a way to get to a conference that is entirely regionally focused. CUSA is sucking the life out of our athletic program.
RE: What Fuels Our Rivalries? - monarx - 01-13-2021 05:08 PM
(01-13-2021 02:09 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: This is sad. I took this survey and could not think of a single legit rival for ODU football. Looking at the results after I completed my survey, confirmed that we do not have anything that could be called a rival. We have got to find a way to get to a conference that is entirely regionally focused. CUSA is sucking the life out of our athletic program.
I put Charlotte, Marshall, ECU, LU, and JMU. Then it started asking a ton of questions about Marshall and I gave up.
RE: What Fuels Our Rivalries? - Petey Hodge - 01-13-2021 10:16 PM
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when it comes to basketball... nothing makes me more angry than just thinking about everything this school stands for.
The hate is real.
LOL
tired of cusa
RE: What Fuels Our Rivalries? - HeadsetGuy - 01-14-2021 12:21 PM
ECU was the only 'rival' I could be truthful about
RE: What Fuels Our Rivalries? - Chillie Willie - 01-14-2021 12:29 PM
(01-13-2021 10:16 PM)Petey Hodge Wrote:
when it comes to basketball... nothing makes me more angry than just thinking about everything this school stands for.
The hate is real.
LOL
tired of cusa
Can hate really travel 1,500 miles?
RE: What Fuels Our Rivalries? - Monarchblue - 01-14-2021 01:04 PM
(01-14-2021 12:21 PM)HeadsetGuy Wrote: ECU was the only 'rival' I could be truthful about
I have a hard time calling ECU a rival. We have played them what 2 or 3 times in a decade?
RE: What Fuels Our Rivalries? - monarx - 01-14-2021 01:35 PM
(01-14-2021 01:04 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:(01-14-2021 12:21 PM)HeadsetGuy Wrote: ECU was the only 'rival' I could be truthful about
I have a hard time calling ECU a rival. We have played them what 2 or 3 times in a decade?
Yeah. But they are the closest FBS program to us, a fellow G5, similar academic level, and a lot of interaction between alumni and fans socially due to geography. If we were in a conference with them, I could see it being similar to the VCU rivalry only in football. Speaking of which, VCU, GMU and JMU are our only true rivals. Just none of them play FBS football.
RE: What Fuels Our Rivalries? - EverRespect - 01-14-2021 02:05 PM
(01-14-2021 01:04 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:(01-14-2021 12:21 PM)HeadsetGuy Wrote: ECU was the only 'rival' I could be truthful about
I have a hard time calling ECU a rival. We have played them what 2 or 3 times in a decade?
And we've never beaten them.
RE: What Fuels Our Rivalries? - Monarchblue - 01-14-2021 02:06 PM
(01-14-2021 01:35 PM)monarx Wrote:(01-14-2021 01:04 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:(01-14-2021 12:21 PM)HeadsetGuy Wrote: ECU was the only 'rival' I could be truthful about
I have a hard time calling ECU a rival. We have played them what 2 or 3 times in a decade?
Yeah. But they are the closest FBS program to us, a fellow G5, similar academic level, and a lot of interaction between alumni and fans socially due to geography. If we were in a conference with them, I could see it being similar to the VCU rivalry only in football. Speaking of which, VCU, GMU and JMU are our only true rivals. Just none of them play FBS football.
So, I think they are the FBS program best situated to be a rival, but I would really struggle to call it a rivalry right now. I would struggle to call anything that currently exists a a rivalry. I do not believe ODU Football has one, which is really the point of my original post, and should be a major concern for those running our athletic dept. I don't think the importance of rivalries in college sports can be overstated.
Sadly, I would probably argue that Liberty is the closest thing ODU currently has to a rivalry, and I don't think either side WANTS that to even be a rivalry.
RE: What Fuels Our Rivalries? - ODUODUODU - 01-14-2021 03:00 PM
Obviously, VCU vs ODU was a true rivalry in the day.
I think a rivalry must be acknowledged by both schools. I would think nobody considers us their "Rival" in these days. Maybe UNCC, WKU and Marshall.
RE: What Fuels Our Rivalries? - Monarchblue - 01-14-2021 03:15 PM
(01-14-2021 03:00 PM)ODUODUODU Wrote: Obviously, VCU vs ODU was a true rivalry in the day.
I think a rivalry must be acknowledged by both schools. I would think nobody considers us their "Rival" in these days. Maybe UNCC, WKU and Marshall.
My posts are in reference to football since the study is focused on football. I do agree that VCU is certainly still a rival, and we have some lower level rivalries in basketball as well. WKU, Marshall, JMU, and even W&M and NSU qualify on some level I think. UNCC seems like it should be a rivalry, but I just don't sense anything there, probably because we haven't both been good at the same while in CUSA together.
RE: What Fuels Our Rivalries? - ODUBB35 - 01-14-2021 05:42 PM
Georgia Southern had the makings of a rivalry before we went FBS.
RE: What Fuels Our Rivalries? - CameramanJ - 01-14-2021 05:52 PM
(01-14-2021 05:42 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote: Georgia Southern had the makings of a rivalry before we went FBS.
If both us and GaSo had stayed FCS for another ten years, I think we'd be valuating our seasons based on "Did GaSo beat us in the playoffs or not?". Especially if we stayed Air Raid, it would have been a "worlds collide" kind of rivalry.
RE: What Fuels Our Rivalries? - jaybird44 - 01-18-2021 12:01 PM
(01-14-2021 03:00 PM)ODUODUODU Wrote: Obviously, VCU vs ODU was a true rivalry in the day.
I think a rivalry must be acknowledged by both schools. I would think nobody considers us their "Rival" in these days. Maybe UNCC, WKU and Marshall.
IT STILL IS. THEY HATE US.
RE: What Fuels Our Rivalries? - Purplehazed - 02-13-2021 04:42 PM
JMU basketball trending up... suck to competitive ASAP
Micheal Christmas had a game today against Hofstra.
If the 757 has anymore basketball players that don't choose ODU for whatever reason, send them northwest a few hours.
Thanks in advance
RE: What Fuels Our Rivalries? - jaybird44 - 02-22-2021 06:17 PM
We need jmu,us,liberty,app st,charlotte,coastal,ga state,ga southern,marshall. LETS DO THIS
RE: What Fuels Our Rivalries? - Retroview1955 - 02-22-2021 11:31 PM
I think because Liberty is doing so much more than us in football, we should play them on rivalry weekend.
RE: What Fuels Our Rivalries? - MonGNARch - 02-24-2021 03:55 PM
The one thing that I knew I was going to miss about CAA football when we moved up was no longer playing JMU in football.
They were naysayers since before we ever got the program back up and running. From saying we'd never get a team, to saying we'd never win, to saying we'd never win in the CAA, to never beating them... To crushing it as an FCS school, winning the CAA in our last season in it (idc that the conference doesn't acknowledge it) and sweeping them the only 2 times we played. It started feeling like it was trending towards a fun heated rivalry. I looked forward to both of those games more than any other those years. If I remember correcrtly fans were especially excited about it as well.
But since, I haven't felt ODU has had any true football rivalry. There are some schools that should be a rival, but to this day they still don't move the needle the way a rivalry should.
EDIT: There's a part of me that wants them to move up and be in an FBS conference with us so that it would be ignited again
RE: What Fuels Our Rivalries? - VB Monarch - 02-24-2021 04:50 PM
We have plenty of rivalry type history with UAB. I'd love to play them more often and develop a rivalry.
You need some close, controversial games to light the fuse. Unfortunately our fan bases don't have much in common as far as friends and relatives going to each school.