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Bearcat's Top Rivals For Football - sportprof101 - 12-29-2020 02:16 PM
I hope everyone is enjoying the holidays! I'm a student at NKU (right across the river) and I wanted to learn more about Cincinnati's Rivals and I thought no better way than jumping into this message board. With the help of message board members beginning in 2014, we—the students and professors of the Know Rivalry Project—began answering this question and others related to rivalry in the NCAA FBS. No one knows the rivalries of the Bearcats better than this message board community. Please help us update and expand our results to ensure that the Cincinnati Bearcats are included by taking 9 minutes to complete our newest survey:
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RE: Bearcat's Top Rivals For Football - natibeast21 - 12-29-2020 04:55 PM
Will definitely provide my inputs when I get a chance. Nice work! I will provide inputs to both Bearcats and Buckeyes (if they are an option).
Interesting project for all college football fans I was unaware about until now.
RE: Bearcat's Top Rivals For Football - CliftonAve - 12-29-2020 05:08 PM
For basketball UC's rival is Xavier.
Traditionally Louisville is a football/basketball rival due to our long history playing them and close proximity, but those games haven't been played since 2013.
Miami is a series-- it was a rivalry at one time but due to inequities in fan interest, vision of both programs it is a game that is on the schedule.
OSU/UK aren't teams we play on a regular basis, so we are hard pressed to call them rivals. However, due to the fact there are so many of their fans in our metro area their specter always lingers.
RE: Bearcat's Top Rivals For Football - doss2 - 12-29-2020 06:10 PM
(12-29-2020 05:08 PM)CliftonAve Wrote: For basketball UC's rival is Xavier.
Traditionally Louisville is a football/basketball rival due to our long history playing them and close proximity, but those games haven't been played since 2013.
Miami is a series-- it was a rivalry at one time but due to inequities in fan interest, vision of both programs it is a game that is on the schedule.
OSU/UK aren't teams we play on a regular basis, so we are hard pressed to call them rivals. However, due to the fact there are so many of their fans in our metro area their specter always lingers.
UCF then Memphis then Temple then Miami (1 point).
RE: Bearcat's Top Rivals For Football - BearcatJerry - 12-29-2020 07:46 PM
Louisville.
The Keg'O'Nails.
Miami of Ohio... The Victory Bell... In a distant second place.
In the Conference??? Memphis...maybe. That's it, really.
RE: Bearcat's Top Rivals For Football - doss2 - 12-29-2020 08:35 PM
(12-29-2020 07:46 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote: Louisville.
The Keg'O'Nails.
Miami of Ohio... The Victory Bell... In a distant second place.
In the Conference??? Memphis...maybe. That's it, really.
Is a team a rival if they have not won in 15 years?
Is a team a rival if you no longer play and have no games scheduled?
Really we no longer have a true rival.
RE: Bearcat's Top Rivals For Football - Lurkercat - 12-29-2020 08:42 PM
(12-29-2020 08:35 PM)doss2 Wrote:(12-29-2020 07:46 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote: Louisville.
The Keg'O'Nails.
Miami of Ohio... The Victory Bell... In a distant second place.
In the Conference??? Memphis...maybe. That's it, really.
Is a team a rival if they have not won in 15 years?
Is a team a rival if you no longer play and have no games scheduled?
Really we no longer have a true rival.
Yup this is sad and unfortunate.. louisville/pitt/wv don't even think about us anymore since they've all moved on to better conferences. It would be awesome to get 2 of those every year in the non con
RE: Bearcat's Top Rivals For Football - BearcatJerry - 12-29-2020 08:58 PM
That was kind of fun. I laughed as I got to express my thoughts about Memphis fans...
RE: Bearcat's Top Rivals For Football - vabearcat - 12-29-2020 09:32 PM
Kind of interesting what now passes for academic rigor. I love sports as much as anyone, but I thought college was more about study/inquiry/research into stuff that advances the human condition; say, for example, among other disciplines, the following: physics, engineering, mathematics, human behavior and development, management theory, astronomy, chemistry, geology, biology, etc.
OK, I'll play. Biggest rivals: Louisville, Ohio State, UK, Pitt, WVU, Miami, and to a lesser degree, Ohio U. and Indiana Univ. In athletics, only Memphis and UCF in our current conference seems to garner much passion. I know that we don't play a bunch of the regional schools anymore. But they are still our rivals, athletically and otherwise. We compete with many of them for recruits, students, corporate research donations and regional stature and influence.
RE: Bearcat's Top Rivals For Football - Bear Catlett - 12-29-2020 09:35 PM
Louisville would be if we played.
Traditionally Miamuh of Ahiya is, but they suck now.
We were getting going with WV, Pitt and Syracuse, then they left.
We have a hard time getting rivals.
RE: Bearcat's Top Rivals For Football - Dannyboy - 12-30-2020 10:10 AM
Our traditional rival is Miami. The history of the Victory Bell series goes back to 1888. It’s become lopsided in recent years but there have still been good games. As recently as 4 years ago we needed an outright miracle to win but we pulled it off.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_Bell_(Cincinnati–Miami)
RE: Bearcat's Top Rivals For Football - CliftonAve - 12-30-2020 10:29 AM
(12-30-2020 10:10 AM)Dannyboy Wrote: Our traditional rival is Miami. The history of the Victory Bell series goes back to 1888. It’s become lopsided in recent years but there have still been good games. As recently as 4 years ago we needed an outright miracle to win but we pulled it off.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_Bell_(Cincinnati–Miami)
Traditionally, yes. It hasn’t been a rivalry for a while, despite how close the games were from 2013-2017. Frankly, even before we took the series over in 2006 I remember getting up more for the Louisville games than MU. I am guessing it had to do with the two schools having similar profiles, close proximity, and being rivals in multiple sports for so many years.
Frankly, I don’t even think much about Miami at all— they don’t have a sizable fan base, they don’t get covered in the media (even local), we do not lose recruits to them... they are basically irrelevant.
RE: Bearcat's Top Rivals For Football - Bruce Monnin - 12-30-2020 10:38 AM
At the moment, our only football rivals are the teams above us in the CFP rankings.
RE: Bearcat's Top Rivals For Football - rath v2.0 - 12-30-2020 10:41 AM
Miami is a long standing game but as a guy who attended both schools, I’ve just never really seen it as a rivalry game. Perhaps it used to be when the programs were on more of an equal footing in terms of mission statement and financing. Not the case anymore.
UL used to be our main rival but that is now sadly over due to conference realignment.
UCF and Memphis are the closest things to rivalries that I see in this far flung conference. We just don’t have any programs nearby enough geographically that are in the same weight class.
RE: Bearcat's Top Rivals For Football - bearcatmark - 12-30-2020 11:00 AM
(12-30-2020 10:41 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote: Miami is a long standing game but as a guy who attended both schools, I’ve just never really seen it as a rivalry game. Perhaps it used to be when the programs were on more of an equal footing in terms of mission statement and financing. Not the case anymore.
UL used to be our main rival but that is now sadly over due to conference realignment.
UCF and Memphis are the closest things to rivalries that I see in this far flung conference. We just don’t have any programs nearby enough geographically that are in the same weight class.
Obviously the worst part about the Big East getting picked apart is UC missing out on huge amounts of money and being at the big boy table, BUT the other sad part is the conference was really great for fun geographic games that could create interesting rivalries. We had our longtime rival Louisville, but WVU and Pitt were also in reasonable driving distance and those games really had a great atmosphere to them.
RE: Bearcat's Top Rivals For Football - rath v2.0 - 12-30-2020 11:47 AM
Yep. Was nice being able to head out the night before or get up early on game day to attend games at UL, Pitt, and WVU. I did Rutgers as well but 9 hours or so is more of a commitment.
Rivalries are tough to establish organically when other than a small handful, your own fans and students can’t make the trip.
RE: Bearcat's Top Rivals For Football - CliftonAve - 12-30-2020 12:08 PM
(12-30-2020 11:00 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:(12-30-2020 10:41 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote: Miami is a long standing game but as a guy who attended both schools, I’ve just never really seen it as a rivalry game. Perhaps it used to be when the programs were on more of an equal footing in terms of mission statement and financing. Not the case anymore.
UL used to be our main rival but that is now sadly over due to conference realignment.
UCF and Memphis are the closest things to rivalries that I see in this far flung conference. We just don’t have any programs nearby enough geographically that are in the same weight class.
Obviously the worst part about the Big East getting picked apart is UC missing out on huge amounts of money and being at the big boy table, BUT the other sad part is the conference was really great for fun geographic games that could create interesting rivalries. We had our longtime rival Louisville, but WVU and Pitt were also in reasonable driving distance and those games really had a great atmosphere to them.
Pitt had the most potential to be a great long-term natural rival. The two cities have competing interest in the NFL and MLB and in general the two cities do not like on another (although there are many similarities between the two).
WV as well are mostly Steeler and Pirates fans. Was sitting near a wVU that was wearing a Steelers jersey back in 2011 (Steelers in town that Sunday).
RE: Bearcat's Top Rivals For Football - sportprof101 - 12-30-2020 01:26 PM
Thank you to everyone that replied and helped out