(05-15-2022 09:16 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 08:54 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 07:45 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 07:33 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 06:59 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  Yeah... when I said "violence" it was murder on my mind given the 10 people recently murdered. Sorry I wasn't more clear.

I guess we have both been redefining things today (your assertion that 5.5 months ago was a reasonable era to use to the term "colored" to refer to black people).

Where did I state that 'it was a reasonable time'? I love how you make **** up for your own benefit dude. I was mentioning that all you seem to do is rehash **** from some odd point in the past as some sort of retort to you never bothering to back up your 'more violence' claim, then changing to your 'moving the goalposts' when pressed. You are quite the Jedi master at that Raymundo. That is, instead of dealing in the 'here and now' of your retreat from 'violence' and your redefinition of 'violence' to 'murder', you simply wish to pop back months for stupid as **** stuff. Funn that.

Funny how that seems to be your 'go to' move -- kind of a 93 'Crane Strike' move from the "Karate Kid"..... lolz.

As to the present ---

Funny, violence means ---- violence. Now it conveniently means 'murder and murder only' -- but apparently only when you are pressed on your own language. I suggest using correct language at the get go. You are quite the redefinition machine today. Quite the "refuse to back your shallow as **** comments' day as well. And, for the trifecta, quite the 'dredge anything up' to avoid the issue as well. Double lolz.

I heard Ritalin does wonders to even out those spastic spells that you seem to be undergoing in a deep sense today.

I don't think Ritalin is an antispasmodic but that's neither here nor there.

LOL the dude who calls black people "colored" literally just tells me "I suggest using correct language at the get go." Honestly comedy gold.

And continued redirection from the past to wash over the continued *present* maddy poo attempts to avoid his continued goalpost moves. Have to give the kid an 'A' for focus and effort.

Care to address the 'here and now' issue instead of your absolutely continuous 'dredge up stuff from x months ago' schtick?

I'm sorry... what was the question? I am still doubled over by the idea of the dude who calls black people "colored" admonishing me about "using correct language at the get go."

Oh, lord. I am really unfocused. I need some Ritalin.

In all seriousness... what was the "here and now issue" that you keep accusing me of avoiding?

(05-15-2022 09:49 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 09:16 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 08:54 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 07:45 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 07:33 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Where did I state that 'it was a reasonable time'? I love how you make **** up for your own benefit dude. I was mentioning that all you seem to do is rehash **** from some odd point in the past as some sort of retort to you never bothering to back up your 'more violence' claim, then changing to your 'moving the goalposts' when pressed. You are quite the Jedi master at that Raymundo. That is, instead of dealing in the 'here and now' of your retreat from 'violence' and your redefinition of 'violence' to 'murder', you simply wish to pop back months for stupid as **** stuff. Funn that.

Funny how that seems to be your 'go to' move -- kind of a 93 'Crane Strike' move from the "Karate Kid"..... lolz.

As to the present ---

Funny, violence means ---- violence. Now it conveniently means 'murder and murder only' -- but apparently only when you are pressed on your own language. I suggest using correct language at the get go. You are quite the redefinition machine today. Quite the "refuse to back your shallow as **** comments' day as well. And, for the trifecta, quite the 'dredge anything up' to avoid the issue as well. Double lolz.

I heard Ritalin does wonders to even out those spastic spells that you seem to be undergoing in a deep sense today.

I don't think Ritalin is an antispasmodic but that's neither here nor there.

LOL the dude who calls black people "colored" literally just tells me "I suggest using correct language at the get go." Honestly comedy gold.

And continued redirection from the past to wash over the continued *present* maddy poo attempts to avoid his continued goalpost moves. Have to give the kid an 'A' for focus and effort.

Care to address the 'here and now' issue instead of your absolutely continuous 'dredge up stuff from x months ago' schtick?

I'm sorry... what was the question? I am still doubled over by the idea of the dude who calls black people "colored" admonishing me about "using correct language at the get go."

Oh, lord. I am really unfocused. I need some Ritalin.

In all seriousness... what was the "here and now issue" that you keep accusing me of avoiding?

Wow, you are seriously doing a good Rainman imitation there, all while studiously avoiding your stuff in this thread in the here and now. Lolz. And you wonder why I note 'autistic' when I have these back and forths with you?

Have fun Raymond. Wapner time for me now.

Quote:When I was 12 I was deep into communist ideology

Quote:On the political compass I fall in the mild-moderate authoritarian left category, and I would prefer to be called a populist.

(05-15-2022 09:58 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Funny thing for Rainman here.

With all his caterwauling about WNs in the last half day, here is an odd snippet from the manifesto:

Quote:When I was 12 I was deep into communist ideology

Quote:On the political compass I fall in the mild-moderate authoritarian left category, and I would prefer to be called a populist.

But yet Raymond keep caterwauling about WN. Amazing that, a mild-moderate authoritarian left -- who graduated to the position from a deep acceptance of communism.

Yet, according to Raymond, it is all about those passels of WNs creating all that immeasurable violence, no, wait, murders, no wait, jaywalking, no wait --- having bad tats. (the last two are made up, of course, but included to see Raymond prancing around the subject matter and doing everything he can to avoid what he actually originally threw into the mix.)

(05-15-2022 09:53 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 09:49 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 09:16 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 08:54 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 07:45 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  I don't think Ritalin is an antispasmodic but that's neither here nor there.

LOL the dude who calls black people "colored" literally just tells me "I suggest using correct language at the get go." Honestly comedy gold.

And continued redirection from the past to wash over the continued *present* maddy poo attempts to avoid his continued goalpost moves. Have to give the kid an 'A' for focus and effort.

Care to address the 'here and now' issue instead of your absolutely continuous 'dredge up stuff from x months ago' schtick?

I'm sorry... what was the question? I am still doubled over by the idea of the dude who calls black people "colored" admonishing me about "using correct language at the get go."

Oh, lord. I am really unfocused. I need some Ritalin.

In all seriousness... what was the "here and now issue" that you keep accusing me of avoiding?

Wow, you are seriously doing a good Rainman imitation there, all while studiously avoiding your stuff in this thread in the here and now. Lolz. And you wonder why I note 'autistic' when I have these back and forths with you?

Have fun Raymond. Wapner time for me now.

Did you see where I asked you which issue exactly you feel that I am avoiding?

(05-15-2022 10:04 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 09:58 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Funny thing for Rainman here.

With all his caterwauling about WNs in the last half day, here is an odd snippet from the manifesto:

Quote:When I was 12 I was deep into communist ideology

Quote:On the political compass I fall in the mild-moderate authoritarian left category, and I would prefer to be called a populist.

But yet Raymond keep caterwauling about WN. Amazing that, a mild-moderate authoritarian left -- who graduated to the position from a deep acceptance of communism.

Yet, according to Raymond, it is all about those passels of WNs creating all that immeasurable violence, no, wait, murders, no wait, jaywalking, no wait --- having bad tats. (the last two are made up, of course, but included to see Raymond prancing around the subject matter and doing everything he can to avoid what he actually originally threw into the mix.)

Anything in there to make you think he is a white nationalist or nah?

(05-15-2022 10:21 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 10:04 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 09:58 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Funny thing for Rainman here.

With all his caterwauling about WNs in the last half day, here is an odd snippet from the manifesto:

Quote:When I was 12 I was deep into communist ideology

Quote:On the political compass I fall in the mild-moderate authoritarian left category, and I would prefer to be called a populist.

But yet Raymond keep caterwauling about WN. Amazing that, a mild-moderate authoritarian left -- who graduated to the position from a deep acceptance of communism.

Yet, according to Raymond, it is all about those passels of WNs creating all that immeasurable violence, no, wait, murders, no wait, jaywalking, no wait --- having bad tats. (the last two are made up, of course, but included to see Raymond prancing around the subject matter and doing everything he can to avoid what he actually originally threw into the mix.)

Anything in there to make you think he is a white nationalist or nah?

There is, along with a whole smorgasborg universe of other stuff that he supports and calls out for. Which, you seem to blithely not be aware of when you focus on 'WN groups creating massive mayhem and violence' schtick that you sopranoed for the last half day.

When taken in total the manifesto says this dude is a complete wingnut.

But simply focusing laser sharp and fixatedly on what you do really doesnt do the guy justice. It doesnt stop your comment on WN groups and the amounts of violence, nor did it put any sort of impediment there. But again, when one is predisposed to 'nothing but systemic racism toady, yesterday, and for all time' like some seem to be, I understand the leap to the singular subject in the 150+ pages to fixate like a burning candle on.

This dude is seriously bent -- in well more than one way. Had you bothered to scratch the surface it would be apparent. But, funny that, your first kneejerk reaction is not to just blame WN, but WN groups, and then have the idiocy to try and downplay antifa violence in one stroke with that supposed godsend of an action.

(05-15-2022 10:46 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 10:21 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 10:04 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 09:58 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Funny thing for Rainman here.

With all his caterwauling about WNs in the last half day, here is an odd snippet from the manifesto:

Quote:When I was 12 I was deep into communist ideology

Quote:On the political compass I fall in the mild-moderate authoritarian left category, and I would prefer to be called a populist.

But yet Raymond keep caterwauling about WN. Amazing that, a mild-moderate authoritarian left -- who graduated to the position from a deep acceptance of communism.

Yet, according to Raymond, it is all about those passels of WNs creating all that immeasurable violence, no, wait, murders, no wait, jaywalking, no wait --- having bad tats. (the last two are made up, of course, but included to see Raymond prancing around the subject matter and doing everything he can to avoid what he actually originally threw into the mix.)

Anything in there to make you think he is a white nationalist or nah?

There is, along with a whole smorgasborg universe of other stuff that he supports and calls out for. Which, you seem to blithely not be aware of when you focus on 'WN groups creating massive mayhem and violence' schtick that you sopranoed for the last half day.

When taken in total the manifesto says this dude is a complete wingnut.

But simply focusing laser sharp and fixatedly on what you do really doesnt do the guy justice. It doesnt stop your comment on WN groups and the amounts of violence, nor did it put any sort of impediment there. But again, when one is predisposed to 'nothing but systemic racism toady, yesterday, and for all time' like some seem to be, I understand the leap to the singular subject in the 150+ pages to fixate like a burning candle on.

This dude is seriously bent -- in well more than one way. Had you bothered to scratch the surface it would be apparent. But, funny that, your first kneejerk reaction is not to just blame WN, but WN groups, and then have the idiocy to try and downplay antifa violence in one stroke with that supposed godsend of an action.

The horrors of suggesting that white nationalism played a significant role in this shooting where... *checks notes*... the shooter espoused white nationalist viewpoints and picked his target specifically due to the high concentration of black people there.

(05-15-2022 10:46 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 10:21 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 10:04 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 09:58 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Funny thing for Rainman here.

With all his caterwauling about WNs in the last half day, here is an odd snippet from the manifesto:

Quote:When I was 12 I was deep into communist ideology

Quote:On the political compass I fall in the mild-moderate authoritarian left category, and I would prefer to be called a populist.

But yet Raymond keep caterwauling about WN. Amazing that, a mild-moderate authoritarian left -- who graduated to the position from a deep acceptance of communism.

Yet, according to Raymond, it is all about those passels of WNs creating all that immeasurable violence, no, wait, murders, no wait, jaywalking, no wait --- having bad tats. (the last two are made up, of course, but included to see Raymond prancing around the subject matter and doing everything he can to avoid what he actually originally threw into the mix.)

Anything in there to make you think he is a white nationalist or nah?

There is, along with a whole smorgasborg universe of other stuff that he supports and calls out for. Which, you seem to blithely not be aware of when you focus on 'WN groups creating massive mayhem and violence' schtick that you sopranoed for the last half day.

When taken in total the manifesto says this dude is a complete wingnut.

But simply focusing laser sharp and fixatedly on what you do really doesnt do the guy justice. It doesnt stop your comment on WN groups and the amounts of violence, nor did it put any sort of impediment there. But again, when one is predisposed to 'nothing but systemic racism toady, yesterday, and for all time' like some seem to be, I understand the leap to the singular subject in the 150+ pages to fixate like a burning candle on.

This dude is seriously bent -- in well more than one way. Had you bothered to scratch the surface it would be apparent. But, funny that, your first kneejerk reaction is not to just blame WN, but WN groups, and then have the idiocy to try and downplay antifa violence in one stroke with that supposed godsend of an action.

The horrors of suggesting that white nationalism played a significant role in this shooting where... *checks notes*... the shooter espoused white nationalist viewpoints and picked his target specifically due to the high concentration of black people there.

(05-15-2022 10:46 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 10:21 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 10:04 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 09:58 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Funny thing for Rainman here.

With all his caterwauling about WNs in the last half day, here is an odd snippet from the manifesto:

Quote:When I was 12 I was deep into communist ideology

Quote:On the political compass I fall in the mild-moderate authoritarian left category, and I would prefer to be called a populist.

But yet Raymond keep caterwauling about WN. Amazing that, a mild-moderate authoritarian left -- who graduated to the position from a deep acceptance of communism.

Yet, according to Raymond, it is all about those passels of WNs creating all that immeasurable violence, no, wait, murders, no wait, jaywalking, no wait --- having bad tats. (the last two are made up, of course, but included to see Raymond prancing around the subject matter and doing everything he can to avoid what he actually originally threw into the mix.)

Anything in there to make you think he is a white nationalist or nah?

There is, along with a whole smorgasborg universe of other stuff that he supports and calls out for. Which, you seem to blithely not be aware of when you focus on 'WN groups creating massive mayhem and violence' schtick that you sopranoed for the last half day.

When taken in total the manifesto says this dude is a complete wingnut.

But simply focusing laser sharp and fixatedly on what you do really doesnt do the guy justice. It doesnt stop your comment on WN groups and the amounts of violence, nor did it put any sort of impediment there. But again, when one is predisposed to 'nothing but systemic racism toady, yesterday, and for all time' like some seem to be, I understand the leap to the singular subject in the 150+ pages to fixate like a burning candle on.

This dude is seriously bent -- in well more than one way. Had you bothered to scratch the surface it would be apparent. But, funny that, your first kneejerk reaction is not to just blame WN, but WN groups, and then have the idiocy to try and downplay antifa violence in one stroke with that supposed godsend of an action.

The horrors of suggesting that white nationalism played a significant role in this shooting where... *checks notes*... the shooter espoused white nationalist viewpoints and picked his target specifically due to the high concentration of black people there.

(05-16-2022 12:21 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 10:46 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 10:21 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 10:04 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 09:58 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Funny thing for Rainman here.

With all his caterwauling about WNs in the last half day, here is an odd snippet from the manifesto:



But yet Raymond keep caterwauling about WN. Amazing that, a mild-moderate authoritarian left -- who graduated to the position from a deep acceptance of communism.

Yet, according to Raymond, it is all about those passels of WNs creating all that immeasurable violence, no, wait, murders, no wait, jaywalking, no wait --- having bad tats. (the last two are made up, of course, but included to see Raymond prancing around the subject matter and doing everything he can to avoid what he actually originally threw into the mix.)

Anything in there to make you think he is a white nationalist or nah?

There is, along with a whole smorgasborg universe of other stuff that he supports and calls out for. Which, you seem to blithely not be aware of when you focus on 'WN groups creating massive mayhem and violence' schtick that you sopranoed for the last half day.

When taken in total the manifesto says this dude is a complete wingnut.

But simply focusing laser sharp and fixatedly on what you do really doesnt do the guy justice. It doesnt stop your comment on WN groups and the amounts of violence, nor did it put any sort of impediment there. But again, when one is predisposed to 'nothing but systemic racism toady, yesterday, and for all time' like some seem to be, I understand the leap to the singular subject in the 150+ pages to fixate like a burning candle on.

This dude is seriously bent -- in well more than one way. Had you bothered to scratch the surface it would be apparent. But, funny that, your first kneejerk reaction is not to just blame WN, but WN groups, and then have the idiocy to try and downplay antifa violence in one stroke with that supposed godsend of an action.

The horrors of suggesting that white nationalism played a significant role in this shooting where... *checks notes*... the shooter espoused white nationalist viewpoints and picked his target specifically due to the high concentration of black people there.

The shooter was an alienated, loner teenager. They tend to latch onto one cause or another - could be anything. Blaming this on “white nationalists” solves nothing. This tragedy will be exploited for political gain instead of anything being done to address what leads teenagers to do a Columbine or a shopping center massacre. Apparently you couldn’t care less as long as you can score one for Blue Team.

(05-16-2022 08:12 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-16-2022 12:21 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 10:46 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 10:21 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 10:04 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  Anything in there to make you think he is a white nationalist or nah?

There is, along with a whole smorgasborg universe of other stuff that he supports and calls out for. Which, you seem to blithely not be aware of when you focus on 'WN groups creating massive mayhem and violence' schtick that you sopranoed for the last half day.

When taken in total the manifesto says this dude is a complete wingnut.

But simply focusing laser sharp and fixatedly on what you do really doesnt do the guy justice. It doesnt stop your comment on WN groups and the amounts of violence, nor did it put any sort of impediment there. But again, when one is predisposed to 'nothing but systemic racism toady, yesterday, and for all time' like some seem to be, I understand the leap to the singular subject in the 150+ pages to fixate like a burning candle on.

This dude is seriously bent -- in well more than one way. Had you bothered to scratch the surface it would be apparent. But, funny that, your first kneejerk reaction is not to just blame WN, but WN groups, and then have the idiocy to try and downplay antifa violence in one stroke with that supposed godsend of an action.

The horrors of suggesting that white nationalism played a significant role in this shooting where... *checks notes*... the shooter espoused white nationalist viewpoints and picked his target specifically due to the high concentration of black people there.

The shooter was an alienated, loner teenager. They tend to latch onto one cause or another - could be anything. Blaming this on “white nationalists” solves nothing. This tragedy will be exploited for political gain instead of anything being done to address what leads teenagers to do a Columbine or a shopping center massacre. Apparently you couldn’t care less as long as you can score one for Blue Team.

Whoa whoa whoa, dude. The bolded is a massive stretch based on the fact that I pointed out the fact that there was yet another mass murder associated with white nationalism A white nationalist.

(05-16-2022 10:06 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Just checking in here. What do I find?

A bunch of people pushing back against a claim that the shooting was related to white nationalist ideology.

Why push back on this?

(05-15-2022 05:50 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 02:30 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Ok, Frizzy Owl, just clarifying that his manifesto makes it clear he was a white nationalist ...

It does no such thing. It does, however, make it clear he was a wacko.

(05-16-2022 10:19 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  lad, if you go to post 4679, there is the crux of the discussion.

Nobody, repeat, nobody, denies he, repeat he, is a WN, or that the twisted thoughts in his mind led to the shootings.

The argument is whether or not this indicates that WN groups are more dangerous and pervasive than other groups. No evidence at all that this was a group endeavor.

Twisted thoughts in the mind of a lone actor do not indicate a widespread conspiracy.

(05-16-2022 10:17 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 05:50 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-15-2022 02:30 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Ok, Frizzy Owl, just clarifying that his manifesto makes it clear he was a white nationalist ...

It does no such thing. It does, however, make it clear he was a wacko.

Seriously? You’re arguing he isn’t a white nationalist when the manifesto clearly talks about how White people are being replaced, he describes himself as a white supremacist, and he specifically targeted the grocery store because it was frequented by predominantly black customers. And that doesn’t even touch on the anti-semetic elements, which are well in-line with white supremest ideology.

This is the point you want to push back on????

(05-15-2022 02:30 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Ok, Frizzy Owl, just clarifying that his manifesto makes it clear he was a white nationalist ...