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Should UC & BYU schedule a December game to boost winner's resume if both undefeated? - B easy - 11-21-2020 07:50 PM
Food for thought.
RE: Should UC & BYU schedule a December game to boost winners resume if both undef... - Edgebrookjeff - 11-21-2020 07:51 PM
(11-21-2020 07:50 PM)B easy Wrote: Food for thought.
Who does it benefit?
RE: Should UC & BYU schedule a December game to boost winner's resume if both unde... - B easy - 11-21-2020 07:51 PM
(11-21-2020 07:51 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:(11-21-2020 07:50 PM)B easy Wrote: Food for thought.
Who does it benefit?
The winner.
RE: Should UC & BYU schedule a December game to boost winner's resume if both undefeated? - BcatMatt13 - 11-21-2020 07:52 PM
No
RE: Should UC & BYU schedule a December game to boost winner's resume if both unde... - Nameless - 11-21-2020 07:55 PM
(11-21-2020 07:51 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:(11-21-2020 07:50 PM)B easy Wrote: Food for thought.
Who does it benefit?
If Cincy is still outside the CFP top 4 I don't exactly see how it hurts them, even if they were to lose. It's not like BYU belongs to a conference and can steal the access bowl slot, and I don't think a loss to an undefeated top 10 team would drop Cincy behind Marshall or Coastal or whomever winds up in the running
RE: Should UC & BYU schedule a December game to boost winner's resume if both undefeated? - Edgebrookjeff - 11-21-2020 07:56 PM
If you don't play and win your conference you get the NY6. If you lose and still win the conference, you probably get knocked out of the NY6. If you beat BYU, what do you get....the NY6?
RE: Should UC & BYU schedule a December game to boost winner's resume if both unde... - BcatMatt13 - 11-21-2020 07:57 PM
(11-21-2020 07:55 PM)Nameless Wrote:(11-21-2020 07:51 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:(11-21-2020 07:50 PM)B easy Wrote: Food for thought.
Who does it benefit?
If Cincy is still outside the CFP top 4 I don't exactly see how it hurts them, even if they were to lose. It's not like BYU belongs to a conference and can steal the access bowl slot, and I don't think a loss to an undefeated top 10 team would drop Cincy behind Marshall or Coastal or whomever winds up in the running
But if that top 4 is set do you really think a UC win over BYU would matter. (It wouldn’t)
RE: Should UC & BYU schedule a December game to boost winner's resume if both undefeated? - WhoseHouse? - 11-21-2020 07:58 PM
Yes both teams should be willing to schedule each other if for no other reason then to avoid the inevitable BYU/Cincy NY6 matchup that would occur otherwise.
RE: Should UC & BYU schedule a December game to boost winner's resume if both unde... - WhoseHouse? - 11-21-2020 07:59 PM
(11-21-2020 07:57 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:(11-21-2020 07:55 PM)Nameless Wrote:(11-21-2020 07:51 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:(11-21-2020 07:50 PM)B easy Wrote: Food for thought.
Who does it benefit?
If Cincy is still outside the CFP top 4 I don't exactly see how it hurts them, even if they were to lose. It's not like BYU belongs to a conference and can steal the access bowl slot, and I don't think a loss to an undefeated top 10 team would drop Cincy behind Marshall or Coastal or whomever winds up in the running
But if that top 4 is set do you really think a UC win over BYU would matter. (It wouldn’t)
Either play them in the regular season and give yourself a shot at making the playoffs or play them in a NY6 bowl. What would you rather have?
RE: Should UC & BYU schedule a December game to boost winner's resume if both undefeated? - bearcatfan - 11-21-2020 08:00 PM
So basically admit that winning the the AAC is not worthy of the P5/playoff?
No.
RE: Should UC & BYU schedule a December game to boost winner's resume if both unde... - Foreverandever - 11-21-2020 08:00 PM
(11-21-2020 07:55 PM)Nameless Wrote:(11-21-2020 07:51 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:(11-21-2020 07:50 PM)B easy Wrote: Food for thought.
Who does it benefit?
If Cincy is still outside the CFP top 4 I don't exactly see how it hurts them, even if they were to lose. It's not like BYU belongs to a conference and can steal the access bowl slot, and I don't think a loss to an undefeated top 10 team would drop Cincy behind Marshall or Coastal or whomever winds up in the running
This won't matter as much as we think. On Tuesday BYU will be ranked where they belong, upper teens. They got this far mostly through momentum, their schedule will hurt them, same for Coastal both will give up some ground.
Even if BYU stays up there is little reward for Cincy. Beating BYU won't be enough. BYU would love it though. If BYU wants they can come join, otherwise no reason to help them in anyway.
Now SMU or Memphis should take it, little risk already ranked behind and a decent reward in it with a win.
RE: Should UC & BYU schedule a December game to boost winner's resume if both unde... - Nameless - 11-21-2020 08:00 PM
(11-21-2020 07:57 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:(11-21-2020 07:55 PM)Nameless Wrote:(11-21-2020 07:51 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:(11-21-2020 07:50 PM)B easy Wrote: Food for thought.
Who does it benefit?
If Cincy is still outside the CFP top 4 I don't exactly see how it hurts them, even if they were to lose. It's not like BYU belongs to a conference and can steal the access bowl slot, and I don't think a loss to an undefeated top 10 team would drop Cincy behind Marshall or Coastal or whomever winds up in the running
But if that top 4 is set do you really think a UC win over BYU would matter. (It wouldn’t)
I agree it likely wouldn't. But if the game is played before the final rankings are released it at the very least generates public discussion about how Cincy should be there, which could benefit you in the future
RE: Should UC & BYU schedule a December game to boost winner's resume if both unde... - Nameless - 11-21-2020 08:03 PM
(11-21-2020 08:00 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:(11-21-2020 07:55 PM)Nameless Wrote:(11-21-2020 07:51 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:(11-21-2020 07:50 PM)B easy Wrote: Food for thought.
Who does it benefit?
If Cincy is still outside the CFP top 4 I don't exactly see how it hurts them, even if they were to lose. It's not like BYU belongs to a conference and can steal the access bowl slot, and I don't think a loss to an undefeated top 10 team would drop Cincy behind Marshall or Coastal or whomever winds up in the running
This won't matter as much as we think. On Tuesday BYU will be ranked where they belong, upper teens. They got this far mostly through momentum, their schedule will hurt them, same for Coastal both will give up some ground.
Even if BYU stays up there is little reward for Cincy. Beating BYU won't be enough. BYU would love it though. If BYU wants they can come join, otherwise no reason to help them in anyway.
Now SMU or Memphis should take it, little risk already ranked behind and a decent reward in it with a win.
Fair point, I forgot how weak their schedule is. Would love to see either Memphis, SMU or even UCF schedule them if they still can. I want more ranked teams lol
RE: Should UC & BYU schedule a December game to boost winner's resume if both unde... - WhoseHouse? - 11-21-2020 08:03 PM
(11-21-2020 08:00 PM)bearcatfan Wrote: So basically admit that winning the the AAC is not worthy of the P5/playoff?
No.
The committee has already made it clear it isn't.
RE: Should UC & BYU schedule a December game to boost winner's resume if both unde... - Nameless - 11-21-2020 08:04 PM
(11-21-2020 08:00 PM)bearcatfan Wrote: So basically admit that winning the the AAC is not worthy of the P5/playoff?
No.
Yeah I didn't even consider this angle. You 3 have convinced me, bad idea
RE: Should UC & BYU schedule a December game to boost winner's resume if both unde... - Foreverandever - 11-21-2020 08:08 PM
(11-21-2020 08:03 PM)Nameless Wrote:(11-21-2020 08:00 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:(11-21-2020 07:55 PM)Nameless Wrote:(11-21-2020 07:51 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:(11-21-2020 07:50 PM)B easy Wrote: Food for thought.
Who does it benefit?
If Cincy is still outside the CFP top 4 I don't exactly see how it hurts them, even if they were to lose. It's not like BYU belongs to a conference and can steal the access bowl slot, and I don't think a loss to an undefeated top 10 team would drop Cincy behind Marshall or Coastal or whomever winds up in the running
This won't matter as much as we think. On Tuesday BYU will be ranked where they belong, upper teens. They got this far mostly through momentum, their schedule will hurt them, same for Coastal both will give up some ground.
Even if BYU stays up there is little reward for Cincy. Beating BYU won't be enough. BYU would love it though. If BYU wants they can come join, otherwise no reason to help them in anyway.
Now SMU or Memphis should take it, little risk already ranked behind and a decent reward in it with a win.
Fair point, I forgot how weak their schedule is. Would love to see either Memphis, SMU or even UCF schedule them if they still can. I want more ranked teams lol
I think Memphis would beat on them. SMU would be a shoot out and not sure BYU wants any part of UCF. SMU or UCF might be able to work it out with them I think both have open weeks.
RE: Should UC & BYU schedule a December game to boost winner's resume if both unde... - geosnooker2000 - 11-21-2020 08:13 PM
(11-21-2020 07:58 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote: Yes both teams should be willing to schedule each other if for no other reason then to avoid the inevitable BYU/Cincy NY6 matchup that would occur otherwise.
Very very good point.
RE: Should UC & BYU schedule a December game to boost winner's resume if both unde... - B easy - 11-21-2020 08:19 PM
(11-21-2020 08:04 PM)Nameless Wrote:(11-21-2020 08:00 PM)bearcatfan Wrote: So basically admit that winning the the AAC is not worthy of the P5/playoff?
No.
Yeah I didn't even consider this angle. You 3 have convinced me, bad idea
Its not about admitting anything other than that the committee has inherent bias and UC may be forced to prove themselves further in order to get a shot. Even if BYU drops a few spots in CFP poll it would still be a #5-6 vs #9-10 matchup depending on how the P5 shakes out. If UC rolls BYU, it might be enough to slip into that #4 spot or at least shine a bright light on the fundamental unfairness of a corrupt system.
RE: Should UC & BYU schedule a December game to boost winner's resume if both unde... - rtaylor - 11-21-2020 08:20 PM
You think the committee will care about us beating another non member of the club?
RE: Should UC & BYU schedule a December game to boost winner's resume if both unde... - Foreverandever - 11-21-2020 08:24 PM
(11-21-2020 08:13 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:(11-21-2020 07:58 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote: Yes both teams should be willing to schedule each other if for no other reason then to avoid the inevitable BYU/Cincy NY6 matchup that would occur otherwise.
Very very good point.
Where is BYU getting this magical spot from? They don't have a tie in so they will need to be top 10 at least to maybe get a chance, even then anything but the Fiesta will be a long shot. The SEC has three spots locked up at the moment. G5 gets one. PAC, Big 12 and Big 10 each will be sending at least one as will the ACC although two seem locked in and three is possible.