(11-05-2020 04:01 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

Joe more popular than Obama in Detroit??

(11-05-2020 04:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-05-2020 04:01 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

Joe more popular than Obama in Detroit??

It's Wayne County, not just Detroit proper. And participation in this election was higher than any election we've ever had I believe.

(11-05-2020 03:43 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(11-05-2020 03:30 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(11-05-2020 03:18 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

Quote:The Wisconsin Elections Commission calculates voter turnout as a percentage of the voting-age population -- people age 18 and above -- as estimated by the Demographic Services Center of the Wisconsin Department of Administration. County-by-county census data and population estimates are available on their website. Wisconsin does not calculate turnout based on the number of registered voters, in part because the state has Election Day registration.

Wisconsin's 2020 Estimated Voting Age Population is 4,536,293.

Biden received 1,630,541
Trump received 1,610,007

Total (including 3rd parties and write ins): 3,240268

(3,240,268/4,536,293)*100 = 71.4%

https://elections.wi.gov/elections-voting/statistics

Under normal circumstances, voting age population doesn't vote. Registered voters vote.

So drop that Voting Age Population figure and replace it with number of Registered Voters.

Registered Voters is a subset of Estimated Voting Age Population, so it must be less than.

That will make the denominator lower and the percentage higher.

We measure by eligible voter, not by registered. That's how it was done in past elections. That's how it was calculated in this one.

Quote:Voter turnout can be measured in different ways, with different denominators. It can be expressed as a percentage of the number of eligible voters (“voting eligible population turnout”), registered voters (“registered voter turnout”) or the population that is old enough to vote ("Voting age population turnout").

It is quite easy to confuse these different measures of voter participation and make misleading inferences about the relative health of our democracy. This is especially true when comparing turnout in the United States (which is often measured in terms of the voting eligible population or the voting age population) to other countries (which tend to measure voter turnout in terms of registered voters).

https://www.fairvote.org/measuring_voter_turnout

Quote:Significant percentages of mail-in ballots in battleground states were not delivered to election offices Nov. 3, according to US Postal Service data filed in federal court on Wednesday.

In Philadelphia, 33.7 percent of mail-in ballots were not delivered to election offices on Election Day, the data shows.

In Atlanta, the same goes for 17.9 percent of mail-in ballots, and in Detroit for 21.1 percent, the filing states.

For Greensboro, NC, 27.1 percent were not delivered, and in Lakeland, Wis., the figure is 23.2 percent, according to the filing.

The data also shows that 6.7 percent of mail-in ballots were received by Nov. 3 but not processed.

The Postal Service was court-ordered to provide the information by US District Judge Emmet Sullivan, in Washington, DC, who is hearing lawsuits over delays in the processing of mail-in ballots.

Sullivan is the same judge who presided over the controversial criminal case against President Trump’s former national security adviser Michael Flynn for allegedly lying to FBI agents. Sullivan refused to drop the case despite the Justice Department’s request to do so.

In a letter accompanying the statistics, Justice Department lawyers who are representing the Postal Service cautioned that “the data possesses little to no analytical value and should not be considered a reliable indicator of performance.”

The attorneys argued that the information is incomplete and breaking it down by day distorts actual service performance due to significant daily variations.

They added that these percentages only reflect mail-in ballots that bear specific tracking codes, which are a subset of total election mail.

The data release comes a day after the Postal Service blew a deadline set by Sullivan requiring inspectors from the agency to scour postal facilities for mail-in ballots in key swing states.

(11-05-2020 04:11 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:Significant percentages of mail-in ballots in battleground states were not delivered to election offices Nov. 3, according to US Postal Service data filed in federal court on Wednesday.

In Philadelphia, 33.7 percent of mail-in ballots were not delivered to election offices on Election Day, the data shows.

In Atlanta, the same goes for 17.9 percent of mail-in ballots, and in Detroit for 21.1 percent, the filing states.

For Greensboro, NC, 27.1 percent were not delivered, and in Lakeland, Wis., the figure is 23.2 percent, according to the filing.

The data also shows that 6.7 percent of mail-in ballots were received by Nov. 3 but not processed.

The Postal Service was court-ordered to provide the information by US District Judge Emmet Sullivan, in Washington, DC, who is hearing lawsuits over delays in the processing of mail-in ballots.

Sullivan is the same judge who presided over the controversial criminal case against President Trump’s former national security adviser Michael Flynn for allegedly lying to FBI agents. Sullivan refused to drop the case despite the Justice Department’s request to do so.

In a letter accompanying the statistics, Justice Department lawyers who are representing the Postal Service cautioned that “the data possesses little to no analytical value and should not be considered a reliable indicator of performance.”

The attorneys argued that the information is incomplete and breaking it down by day distorts actual service performance due to significant daily variations.

They added that these percentages only reflect mail-in ballots that bear specific tracking codes, which are a subset of total election mail.

The data release comes a day after the Postal Service blew a deadline set by Sullivan requiring inspectors from the agency to scour postal facilities for mail-in ballots in key swing states.

Link

(11-05-2020 04:18 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(11-05-2020 04:46 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Another win for Trump in PA. THis ruling is particularly devastating, because it is a prelude to what will happen at the SC.

(11-05-2020 04:50 PM)Curumim Wrote:  

(11-05-2020 04:46 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Another win for Trump in PA. THis ruling is particularly devastating, because it is a prelude to what will happen at the SC.

Fight til the very end.

(11-05-2020 02:46 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(11-05-2020 02:35 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

I really can't get my head around that other than there were a ton of ballots that only voted for president?

(11-05-2020 04:53 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Breaking: Fox News has learned that Trump will win Arizona, so they plan to call PA for Biden tonite. (Despite the fact Trump will still have the lead). This will allow them to also call NV and say Biden has 270.