(11-09-2020 05:03 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  Let's not forget JMU and Delaware turning down CUSA when they were offered with ODU. All three were offered, all three said no. Then ODU called back and asked if they could still join.

JMU has continued to monitor the situation waiting for UVA to move to the Big 10. At that time, JMU will make a play for the ACC lol

(11-09-2020 05:34 PM)FBS Dave Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 05:03 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  Let's not forget JMU and Delaware turning down CUSA when they were offered with ODU. All three were offered, all three said no. Then ODU called back and asked if they could still join.

JMU has continued to monitor the situation waiting for UVA to move to the Big 10. At that time, JMU will make a play for the ACC lol

Also, since Liberty paved the way to FBS Indy, there is an even better position than CUSA.

JMU can have a better football schedule than CUSA.

JMU can keep all other sports in the CAA, or even better go A10.

If the long shot ever happened for a P5 in future RE-alignment JMU is much better positioned with a FBS Indy football program and a competitive A10 basketball program.

(11-09-2020 05:57 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Remember when Marshall took our backup QB to be their starter? I remember.

(11-09-2020 05:49 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 05:34 PM)FBS Dave Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 05:03 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  Let's not forget JMU and Delaware turning down CUSA when they were offered with ODU. All three were offered, all three said no. Then ODU called back and asked if they could still join.

JMU has continued to monitor the situation waiting for UVA to move to the Big 10. At that time, JMU will make a play for the ACC lol

Also, since Liberty paved the way to FBS Indy, there is an even better position than CUSA.

JMU can have a better football schedule than CUSA.

JMU can keep all other sports in the CAA, or even better go A10.

If the long shot ever happened for a P5 in future RE-alignment JMU is much better positioned with a FBS Indy football program and a competitive A10 basketball program.

There's no way you honestly believe this. If this were true then Marshall would leave CUSA and go Indy right now. App St would leave the Sun Belt and go Indy right now. Both programs are much better than JMU.

(11-09-2020 06:17 PM)FBS Dave Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 05:49 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 05:34 PM)FBS Dave Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 05:03 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  Let's not forget JMU and Delaware turning down CUSA when they were offered with ODU. All three were offered, all three said no. Then ODU called back and asked if they could still join.

JMU has continued to monitor the situation waiting for UVA to move to the Big 10. At that time, JMU will make a play for the ACC lol

Also, since Liberty paved the way to FBS Indy, there is an even better position than CUSA.

JMU can have a better football schedule than CUSA.

JMU can keep all other sports in the CAA, or even better go A10.

If the long shot ever happened for a P5 in future RE-alignment JMU is much better positioned with a FBS Indy football program and a competitive A10 basketball program.

There's no way you honestly believe this. If this were true then Marshall would leave CUSA and go Indy right now. App St would leave the Sun Belt and go Indy right now. Both programs are much better than JMU.

Believe it! It’s true!

Both programs are better right now, no question, but that doesn’t mean CUSA would be better for JMU than Indy. Marshall and ODU would be a good schedule match for JMU, but after that the others aren’t in the region and they aren’t attractive brands to have to schedule.

G5 conferences are an old paradigm. There is no money from their TV deals. The bowl affiliations aren’t valuable. The schedules aren’t desirable.

FBS Indy is the path for JMU. UConn is the benchmark for better-than-G5 scheduling and an Independent TV contract.

(11-09-2020 07:36 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 06:17 PM)FBS Dave Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 05:49 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 05:34 PM)FBS Dave Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 05:03 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  Let's not forget JMU and Delaware turning down CUSA when they were offered with ODU. All three were offered, all three said no. Then ODU called back and asked if they could still join.

JMU has continued to monitor the situation waiting for UVA to move to the Big 10. At that time, JMU will make a play for the ACC lol

Also, since Liberty paved the way to FBS Indy, there is an even better position than CUSA.

JMU can have a better football schedule than CUSA.

JMU can keep all other sports in the CAA, or even better go A10.

If the long shot ever happened for a P5 in future RE-alignment JMU is much better positioned with a FBS Indy football program and a competitive A10 basketball program.

There's no way you honestly believe this. If this were true then Marshall would leave CUSA and go Indy right now. App St would leave the Sun Belt and go Indy right now. Both programs are much better than JMU.

Believe it! It’s true!

Both programs are better right now, no question, but that doesn’t mean CUSA would be better for JMU than Indy. Marshall and ODU would be a good schedule match for JMU, but after that the others aren’t in the region and they aren’t attractive brands to have to schedule.

G5 conferences are an old paradigm. There is no money from their TV deals. The bowl affiliations aren’t valuable. The schedules aren’t desirable.

FBS Indy is the path for JMU. UConn is the benchmark for better-than-G5 scheduling and an Independent TV contract.

If you never want to make the Access Bowl, sure, it’s better.

(11-09-2020 12:54 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 10:57 AM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  

(11-07-2020 11:41 PM)White Hall Wrote:  And the “going independent will never work” argument is not aging very well right now.

Huh? You realize half the FBS indy's aren't playing right now? You realize that JMU "tried" the Indy route this fall and it didn't work.

BYU, ND and Army can be tossed out for comparison sake, it is just silly to compare a future JMU to them.

NM State is having to play Liberty and Hawaii twice a year to make it work. Given the CAA duplicate opponents spring schedule uproar, I could only imagine how much our fanbase would freak out if we had double headers in a typical fall season. NM State is not playing this fall.

UConn was the first FBS team to cancel their season this fall. Again, imagine the uproar given the negative reactions to CAA cancelling on us.

UMass is also not playing.

So the only indy's working right now? BYU, Notre Dame, Liberty and Army. Ask yourself, does JMU more in common with those schools or with NM State, Uconn and Umass?

However many people are pissed we are not FBS right now would be equaled by the amount of pissed fans if we were an Indy this year cause we would be one of the few FBS programs not playing right now.

I feel like some of your info is dated. UMass is playing, LU and NMSU did the 2 games a season thing just because we had to make a schedule quick and not much was open. But now we are good. Other wise pretty accurate.

I’m wondering what does other Indy’s have to do with JMU going Indy? You make your schedule how you want and if you feel like only including schools that JMU feels are peers you can do that. It’s a pretty flexible and awesome way to go. Plus later in the season all the Indy’s can help each other out if there is a hole in the schedule. UConn also has a TV deal for FB as a Indy. They might be a special case but that possibility only exists at the FBS level. And I don’t think making a Indy FCS schedule this year is comparable to FBS Indy. Most of FBS is playing this year and LU is making it work really well.

(11-09-2020 08:09 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 07:36 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 06:17 PM)FBS Dave Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 05:49 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 05:34 PM)FBS Dave Wrote:  Also, since Liberty paved the way to FBS Indy, there is an even better position than CUSA.

JMU can have a better football schedule than CUSA.

JMU can keep all other sports in the CAA, or even better go A10.

If the long shot ever happened for a P5 in future RE-alignment JMU is much better positioned with a FBS Indy football program and a competitive A10 basketball program.

There's no way you honestly believe this. If this were true then Marshall would leave CUSA and go Indy right now. App St would leave the Sun Belt and go Indy right now. Both programs are much better than JMU.

Believe it! It’s true!

Both programs are better right now, no question, but that doesn’t mean CUSA would be better for JMU than Indy. Marshall and ODU would be a good schedule match for JMU, but after that the others aren’t in the region and they aren’t attractive brands to have to schedule.

G5 conferences are an old paradigm. There is no money from their TV deals. The bowl affiliations aren’t valuable. The schedules aren’t desirable.

FBS Indy is the path for JMU. UConn is the benchmark for better-than-G5 scheduling and an Independent TV contract.

If you never want to make the Access Bowl, sure, it’s better.

All FBS Indy’s have a shot at a access bowl. It won’t be easy but it’s possible. BYU might make the Fiesta Bowl this year.

(11-09-2020 06:32 PM)FBS Dave Wrote:  Herd, think about this... Marshall, App State, JMU, Liberty, Coastal Carolina, ODU, Navy, ECU. That’s non P5 that would be a better schedule than CUSA.

Now add in rotating games with UVA, Va Tech, MD, WVA, Duke, Wake, UNC, NC State, Clemson, USC. Play 2 of those as buy games and put $3M in the bank.

I’m not disparaging UAB or San Antonio, but there’s not a great reason to schedule them, or be forced to schedule them.

(11-09-2020 10:05 PM)JMU Wrote:  Liberty and Marshall fans, you must have better things to do in the midst of your great seasons to troll the JMU boards. Why do you care so much? GTF out of here.

(11-09-2020 08:09 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  All FBS Indy’s have a shot at a access bowl. It won’t be easy but it’s possible. BYU might make the Fiesta Bowl this year.

(11-09-2020 09:49 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 06:32 PM)FBS Dave Wrote:  Herd, think about this... Marshall, App State, JMU, Liberty, Coastal Carolina, ODU, Navy, ECU. That’s non P5 that would be a better schedule than CUSA.

Now add in rotating games with UVA, Va Tech, MD, WVA, Duke, Wake, UNC, NC State, Clemson, USC. Play 2 of those as buy games and put $3M in the bank.

I’m not disparaging UAB or San Antonio, but there’s not a great reason to schedule them, or be forced to schedule them.

JMU would not get that kind of schedule. Liberty can schedule better than the rest of us because they have a ton of money.

Trust me, I would LOVE for Marshall to go Indy, but the schedule you threw out isn't something to count on every year.

JMU administration (not their fans) will stay FCS so they can continue to be the 2nd best program at their level. JMU fans will continue to think their program is better than G5 teams who are ranked in the Top 25 of FBS.

I do feel sorry for some of the reasonable JMU fans who post here.

(11-10-2020 06:40 AM)Dukeman2 Wrote:  The economics are better for FBS programs than 1AA Football for all schools that are capable of playing FBS football.

This was the conclusion in feasibility studies for App State, Charlotte, etc. and even JMU.