(11-05-2021 12:37 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  

(11-05-2021 12:19 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  

(11-05-2021 12:15 PM)jmufan2008 Wrote:  

(11-05-2021 12:10 PM)POTUS#4 Wrote:  Yeah we can put to rest all that spin about LU being perfectly happy as an independent, not really caring aobut conference affiliation, etc. That's about as ugly a setup for them as you can get.

Indeed. As much as Purple wants to think Indy is just the best thing in the world, it's so terrible that Liberty is forgoing being Indy to join one of the worst (if not the worst) FBS conference setup in history.

Yep. I think it shows that Liberty would rather be in a garbage conference than Independent.
Even with the amount of money LU has, they still see a conference better than no conference.

We could put that to rest a few years back when Liberty offered CUSA $24M just to join in 2017. They have proven on multiple occasions that even if a school can afford to be independent, it isn't ideal. JMU couldn't afford it and knew it wasn't the right path to FBS. Those that point to Liberty as an example that JMU should have gone Indy just to be FBS are delusional.

(11-05-2021 12:29 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  sure. scheduling. bowl access, others... but I don't get why y'all are so programmed to be against Liberty? Yeah, they got their warts... but what about Penn State? or Baylor? why not so out-spoken about them? If Penn State want't to join the Sun Belt, would you freak out like you do about Liberty?
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(11-05-2021 12:56 PM)White Hall Wrote:  

(11-05-2021 12:37 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  

(11-05-2021 12:19 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  

(11-05-2021 12:15 PM)jmufan2008 Wrote:  

(11-05-2021 12:10 PM)POTUS#4 Wrote:  Yeah we can put to rest all that spin about LU being perfectly happy as an independent, not really caring aobut conference affiliation, etc. That's about as ugly a setup for them as you can get.

Indeed. As much as Purple wants to think Indy is just the best thing in the world, it's so terrible that Liberty is forgoing being Indy to join one of the worst (if not the worst) FBS conference setup in history.

Yep. I think it shows that Liberty would rather be in a garbage conference than Independent.
Even with the amount of money LU has, they still see a conference better than no conference.

We could put that to rest a few years back when Liberty offered CUSA $24M just to join in 2017. They have proven on multiple occasions that even if a school can afford to be independent, it isn't ideal. JMU couldn't afford it and knew it wasn't the right path to FBS. Those that point to Liberty as an example that JMU should have gone Indy just to be FBS are delusional.

I think it’s more about being in a conference which Liberty can control versus being in any conference rather than being independent. Clearly CUSA is garbage, which is why UCONN and possibly UMass turned it down. So being independent is still better than CUSA.

(11-05-2021 01:00 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(11-05-2021 12:56 PM)White Hall Wrote:  

(11-05-2021 12:37 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  

(11-05-2021 12:19 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  

(11-05-2021 12:15 PM)jmufan2008 Wrote:  Indeed. As much as Purple wants to think Indy is just the best thing in the world, it's so terrible that Liberty is forgoing being Indy to join one of the worst (if not the worst) FBS conference setup in history.

Yep. I think it shows that Liberty would rather be in a garbage conference than Independent.
Even with the amount of money LU has, they still see a conference better than no conference.

We could put that to rest a few years back when Liberty offered CUSA $24M just to join in 2017. They have proven on multiple occasions that even if a school can afford to be independent, it isn't ideal. JMU couldn't afford it and knew it wasn't the right path to FBS. Those that point to Liberty as an example that JMU should have gone Indy just to be FBS are delusional.

I think it’s more about being in a conference which Liberty can control versus being in any conference rather than being independent. Clearly CUSA is garbage, which is why UCONN and possibly UMass turned it down. So being independent is still better than CUSA.

It is thought UMass and UConn may join as football members only if CUSA stabilizes first. If they announce 4 adds today, it’s close, but they might need one or two more full members to replace WKU/MTSU.

I doubt either school would consider full membership.

(11-05-2021 12:49 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  To be fair........all the indy advocates were for a *temporary* move to Indy so that we could be top of the list when the dominos start falling. Nobody was pushing for life as an Indy forever. It was all to add to our shine - ends up we didn't need it, but no way we could have really expected things to go THIS DAMN WELL

(11-05-2021 12:56 PM)White Hall Wrote:  

(11-05-2021 12:37 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  

(11-05-2021 12:19 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  

(11-05-2021 12:15 PM)jmufan2008 Wrote:  

(11-05-2021 12:10 PM)POTUS#4 Wrote:  Yeah we can put to rest all that spin about LU being perfectly happy as an independent, not really caring aobut conference affiliation, etc. That's about as ugly a setup for them as you can get.

Indeed. As much as Purple wants to think Indy is just the best thing in the world, it's so terrible that Liberty is forgoing being Indy to join one of the worst (if not the worst) FBS conference setup in history.

Yep. I think it shows that Liberty would rather be in a garbage conference than Independent.
Even with the amount of money LU has, they still see a conference better than no conference.

We could put that to rest a few years back when Liberty offered CUSA $24M just to join in 2017. They have proven on multiple occasions that even if a school can afford to be independent, it isn't ideal. JMU couldn't afford it and knew it wasn't the right path to FBS. Those that point to Liberty as an example that JMU should have gone Indy just to be FBS are delusional.

I think it’s more about being in a conference which Liberty can control versus being in any conference rather than being independent. Clearly CUSA is garbage, which is why UCONN and possibly UMass turned it down. So being independent is still better than CUSA.

(11-05-2021 01:14 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(11-05-2021 12:56 PM)White Hall Wrote:  

(11-05-2021 12:37 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  

(11-05-2021 12:19 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  

(11-05-2021 12:15 PM)jmufan2008 Wrote:  Indeed. As much as Purple wants to think Indy is just the best thing in the world, it's so terrible that Liberty is forgoing being Indy to join one of the worst (if not the worst) FBS conference setup in history.

Yep. I think it shows that Liberty would rather be in a garbage conference than Independent.
Even with the amount of money LU has, they still see a conference better than no conference.

We could put that to rest a few years back when Liberty offered CUSA $24M just to join in 2017. They have proven on multiple occasions that even if a school can afford to be independent, it isn't ideal. JMU couldn't afford it and knew it wasn't the right path to FBS. Those that point to Liberty as an example that JMU should have gone Indy just to be FBS are delusional.

I think it’s more about being in a conference which Liberty can control versus being in any conference rather than being independent. Clearly CUSA is garbage, which is why UCONN and possibly UMass turned it down. So being independent is still better than CUSA.

Liberty’s money will keep CUSA alive (for the moment). And LU’s cable TV productions will give CUSA another media outlet that should help CUSA. I can’t think of a weaker FBS conference tho, and the whole damn conference should have closed shop.

If the MAC = The Baby Big Ten, and the SBC = The Mini SEC, how would you describe the “new” AAC and CUSA conferences?

(11-05-2021 01:14 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  If the MAC = The Baby Big Ten, and the SBC = The Mini SEC, how would you describe the “new” AAC and CUSA conferences?

(11-05-2021 12:56 PM)White Hall Wrote:  

(11-05-2021 12:37 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  

(11-05-2021 12:19 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  

(11-05-2021 12:15 PM)jmufan2008 Wrote:  

(11-05-2021 12:10 PM)POTUS#4 Wrote:  Yeah we can put to rest all that spin about LU being perfectly happy as an independent, not really caring aobut conference affiliation, etc. That's about as ugly a setup for them as you can get.

Indeed. As much as Purple wants to think Indy is just the best thing in the world, it's so terrible that Liberty is forgoing being Indy to join one of the worst (if not the worst) FBS conference setup in history.

Yep. I think it shows that Liberty would rather be in a garbage conference than Independent.
Even with the amount of money LU has, they still see a conference better than no conference.

We could put that to rest a few years back when Liberty offered CUSA $24M just to join in 2017. They have proven on multiple occasions that even if a school can afford to be independent, it isn't ideal. JMU couldn't afford it and knew it wasn't the right path to FBS. Those that point to Liberty as an example that JMU should have gone Indy just to be FBS are delusional.

I think it’s more about being in a conference which Liberty can control versus being in any conference rather than being independent. Clearly CUSA is garbage, which is why UCONN and possibly UMass turned it down. So being independent is still better than CUSA.

(11-05-2021 02:10 PM)DooX Wrote:  Newest Conference... Fact!

(11-05-2021 02:16 PM)hburg Wrote:  Does anyone know if this will be broadcasted live for everyone to watch?

Quote:The press conference will also be streamed live on the JMUSports and James Madison University Facebook pages

(11-05-2021 12:29 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  sure. scheduling. bowl access, others... but I don't get why y'all are so programmed to be against Liberty? Yeah, they got their warts... but what about Penn State? or Baylor? why not so out-spoken about them? If Penn State want't to join the Sun Belt, would you freak out like you do about Liberty?
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