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RE: Newest Conference Rumor/Discussion 2.0 - 2Buck - 10-21-2021 01:00 PM

Bourne needs to be let off the leash.


RE: Newest Conference Rumor/Discussion 2.0 - jmufan2008 - 10-21-2021 01:01 PM

(10-21-2021 12:54 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  A lot more here....all but says it.

https://twitter.com/DaveRiggert/status/1451243791877386240?s=20

"Next several weeks...maybe month" ugh...hopefully it moves faster than that...


RE: Newest Conference Rumor/Discussion 2.0 - bit_9 - 10-21-2021 01:02 PM

(10-21-2021 12:43 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  
(10-21-2021 12:38 PM)James Madison Wrote:  http://https://twitter.com/petethamel/status/1451240211564859401?s=21


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JMU holds a lot of cards in this Sun Belt vs. C-USA expansion showdown. Interesting that AD Jeff Bourne expressed the importance of peers and rivalry when asked about geography.

Like I said earlier, it all was hinging on JMU. But I think it's about to be a party up in here.


RE: Newest Conference Rumor/Discussion 2.0 - 2Buck - 10-21-2021 01:02 PM

(10-21-2021 12:54 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  A lot more here....all but says it.

https://twitter.com/DaveRiggert/status/1451243791877386240?s=20

"Next few weeks to a month"


RE: Newest Conference Rumor/Discussion 2.0 - JMURocks - 10-21-2021 01:02 PM

Seems like this thread really needs to split before it grinds to a halt lol

The "stability" part was fascinating given how in the past the desire for a new regional FBS conference to emerge was expressed. It isn't possible to get to JMUs desired alignment of schools without some instability occurring.

I sort of looked at that as they want a very committed group of schools that aren't going to jump elsewhere soon.

Monarx point about less western mouths in a rebuilt CUSA is interesting, and I can see why basketball first ODU might prefer to rebuild there. But aligning with App St now, along with ESPN deal in hand is a pretty big upside also.


RE: Newest Conference Rumor/Discussion 2.0 - Johns1124 - 10-21-2021 01:03 PM

(10-21-2021 12:07 PM)hburg Wrote:  
(10-21-2021 12:04 PM)Johns1124 Wrote:  
(10-21-2021 09:57 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  It does appear that we are an important piece of this puzzle. Some "in the know" believed the conferences wouldn't even consider us.
And now a conference could live or die by our decision.

Seriously??

(10-21-2021 10:08 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  So if I understand it correctly, there are two scenarios:

1. The Sun Belt convinces Marshall, ODU, and JMU to join USM in the move to the Belt. JMU would find themselves in a division with Marshall, ODU, App State, Coastal Carolina, Georgia State, and Georgia Southern. ESPN conference with some weeknight games.

2. CUSA convinces Marshall and ODU to stay by adding Liberty and JMU. JMU would find themselves in a division with Marshall, ODU, Liberty, WKU, MTSU, and FIU. Non-ESPN conference.

Which situation sounds better to JMU fans? I’m genuinely curious.


3. No one takes you and you stay in the CAA.

Becoming increasingly likely.

How so?


Not going to BS and say I don't have sources. IMO

CUSA does not survive.

MU, So. Miss, Sunbelt.

Now down to:

ODU, MT, WKU , FIU, La. Tech, UTEP

FIU already talking about FCS or Disbandment to regroup (AKA UAB).
MTW said they don't want UTEP, push comes to shove they will take them based on history alone (Big West Aff)
MAC mentioned they may want to expand WKU was talked about, MT or ODU could both be possibilities as well.

That leaves CUSA with 2. They won't survive. There has already been talking about what happens to the "Exit Fee" if the conference dissolves.
Teams are looking toward this to possibly save money.

SB could also take ODU and La. Tech means MT and WKU would definitely go to MAC.

Teams owe a defunkd conference little to nothing.


RE: Newest Conference Rumor/Discussion 2.0 - Rock House Duke - 10-21-2021 01:05 PM

(10-21-2021 12:54 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  A lot more here....all but says it.

https://twitter.com/DaveRiggert/status/1451243791877386240?s=20



I think JB left enough bread crumbs for us to follow to the Sun Belt.


RE: Newest Conference Rumor/Discussion 2.0 - Anders - 10-21-2021 01:05 PM

(10-21-2021 12:54 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  A lot more here....all but says it.

https://twitter.com/DaveRiggert/status/1451243791877386240?s=20

This should be discussed a lot more than the presser. A lot more to
pull from here. Nice find.


RE: Newest Conference Rumor/Discussion 2.0 - Dukester - 10-21-2021 01:07 PM

(10-21-2021 01:00 PM)2Buck Wrote:  Bourne needs to be let off the leash.

Probably not at this point. Don't do anything to potentially screw anything up. This appears to be a very fluid situation. While we all want to know what's going on, not at the price of potentially messing the deal. I think Jeff is holding himself back.


I'm good - proceed as he is.....


Newest Conference Rumor/Discussion 2.0 - 84Breeze - 10-21-2021 01:12 PM

(10-21-2021 01:05 PM)Anders Wrote:  
(10-21-2021 12:54 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  A lot more here....all but says it.

https://twitter.com/DaveRiggert/status/1451243791877386240?s=20

This should be discussed a lot more than the presser. A lot more to
pull from here. Nice find.


Totally agree with this. He said as much as he could without actually saying what we all want to hear. Not sure he can or should say anymore at this point. Just go close the deal!


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RE: Newest Conference Rumor/Discussion 2.0 - Duke Dawg - 10-21-2021 01:12 PM

I believe the holdup on the announcement is app and coastal.

I take from bournes comments, they, along with Marshall and odu, “prefer” a cusa that includes Marshall and odu staying, but also convincing app and coastal to join as well.

But I don’t see that happening, which is why it will end up being the sun belt.


RE: Newest Conference Rumor/Discussion 2.0 - jmufan2008 - 10-21-2021 01:12 PM

Interestingly, I wonder if we were pushing CUSA if things would move much faster because they REALLY need to announced something ASAP for a show of strength. Whereas, Sunbelt doesn't really GAF and can take their sweet time because there's no pressure on them. It may take some extra time to work out details either way, but I think CUSA would have come together more quickly and Sunbelt isn't in a rush, so the longer it takes for an official announcement, the more likely it is that we're all moving to the SB.


Newest Conference Rumor/Discussion 2.0 - 84Breeze - 10-21-2021 01:12 PM

(10-21-2021 01:05 PM)Anders Wrote:  
(10-21-2021 12:54 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  A lot more here....all but says it.

https://twitter.com/DaveRiggert/status/1451243791877386240?s=20

This should be discussed a lot more than the presser. A lot more to
pull from here. Nice find.


Totally agree with this. He said as much as he could without actually saying what we all want to hear. Not sure he can or should say anymore at this point. Just go close the deal!


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RE: Newest Conference Rumor/Discussion 2.0 - bcp_jmu - 10-21-2021 01:13 PM

yeah, that was pretty good interview...he's being a pro...excited for HIM to accomplish this (knock on wood)

pretty sure i didn't hear the word "academics" mentioned. good - we take 80%, but our applicant pool is high quality (a fact missed on a lot of people)


RE: Newest Conference Rumor/Discussion 2.0 - JMad03 - 10-21-2021 01:15 PM

(10-21-2021 01:05 PM)Rock House Duke Wrote:  
(10-21-2021 12:54 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  A lot more here....all but says it.

https://twitter.com/DaveRiggert/status/1451243791877386240?s=20



I think JB left enough bread crumbs for us to follow to the Sun Belt.

Just listened and feel a bit more optimistic.
JMU does do things the right way and said that JMU is very desirable to leagues.
Based on everything said, CUSA is off the table and Sun Belt is very much on the table.
Seems like we will know in the next few weeks to a month. Sounds about right.

CUSA should be very worried.


RE: Newest Conference Rumor/Discussion 2.0 - bcp_jmu - 10-21-2021 01:17 PM

only + for CUSA is that it offers all or nearly all of the Oly sports... but plenty of east coast options for homes for the one offs


RE: Newest Conference Rumor/Discussion 2.0 - Dadgum - 10-21-2021 01:17 PM

The Riggert interview is very telling if you are listening.

Sunbelt is a done deal, CUSA will die.

I will miss this thread, it's been around since before my kids were born, and they're not toddlers.


RE: Newest Conference Rumor/Discussion 2.0 - jmufan2008 - 10-21-2021 01:17 PM

If it could be announced on Nov 5, imagine that Homecoming celebration... Or my bday is the next week, so that'd be alright also.


RE: Newest Conference Rumor/Discussion 2.0 - JMU2004 - 10-21-2021 01:23 PM

(10-21-2021 01:17 PM)jmufan2008 Wrote:  If it could be announced on Nov 5, imagine that Homecoming celebration... Or my bday is the next week, so that'd be alright also.

Ding Ding Ding.

To maximize exposure, I'd love a formal announcement in concert with Homecoming.


RE: Newest Conference Rumor/Discussion 2.0 - DukeQuin - 10-21-2021 01:25 PM

I know we'd all like to hear the final resolution of this, but a 2-3 week period for this next stage makes sense. That's kind of the way it's worked since the UT-OU news came out; bombshell, everyone digests it, they figure out the next course of action and reach out to each other, the institutions make their decisions, and the news comes out. All that needs 2-3 weeks to happen.