(10-20-2021 11:57 AM)JMaddy Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 11:29 AM)ah59396 Wrote:  The smoke I keep seeing is that if Marshall balks, JMU is the next call to move the SBC to 12.

You’d share a new SBC east division with:

JMU
App State
Coastal Carolina
Ga Southern
Ga State
Troy

An absolute nightmare of a football division in terms of difficulty. Would be fun.

I'm all for it, but everything I've seen has us hitching our wagon with Marshall and ODU for a regional conference, and if Marshall turns down the SBC that further pushes that narrative.

For better or worse our admin is pretty loyal and true to their word (I'd like to think that's a good trait). If we have an agreement with Marshall in place and they turn down the SBC I don't see us being so ruthless as to take the opportunity for ourselves, especially when the awesome eastern division in the SBC is only half of the equation.

Also while the SBC was far superior to the full CUSA, this new easternly leaning CUSA with JMU and Liberty in play would be quite intriguing. I really wanted to be in the SBC from the first time we talked conference realignment but an instate rivalry that you can drive to for ODU and Liberty would be hard to pass up.

(10-20-2021 12:24 PM)CarRamrod Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 11:57 AM)JMaddy Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 11:29 AM)ah59396 Wrote:  The smoke I keep seeing is that if Marshall balks, JMU is the next call to move the SBC to 12.

You’d share a new SBC east division with:

JMU
App State
Coastal Carolina
Ga Southern
Ga State
Troy

An absolute nightmare of a football division in terms of difficulty. Would be fun.

I'm all for it, but everything I've seen has us hitching our wagon with Marshall and ODU for a regional conference, and if Marshall turns down the SBC that further pushes that narrative.

For better or worse our admin is pretty loyal and true to their word (I'd like to think that's a good trait). If we have an agreement with Marshall in place and they turn down the SBC I don't see us being so ruthless as to take the opportunity for ourselves, especially when the awesome eastern division in the SBC is only half of the equation.

Also while the SBC was far superior to the full CUSA, this new easternly leaning CUSA with JMU and Liberty in play would be quite intriguing. I really wanted to be in the SBC from the first time we talked conference realignment but an instate rivalry that you can drive to for ODU and Liberty would be hard to pass up.

Potential annual schedule:

Liberty
ODU
Marshall
1 of: VT/UVA/WVU
1 of: WM/UR/UD
SB Crossover: App/Coastal/GA Southern

Even as someone that really likes FCS football in general, the reliability year In and year out of the above is very intriguing.

(10-20-2021 12:26 PM)boozeNammo Wrote:  I'm one of the old timers on these boards so been through this washer several times... and my spidey-senses are telling me we stay put. The risk vs opportunity cost argument can be fashioned in a few different ways but the one thing you cannot change is that each of the three situations (options or potential options) we have require quite a bit of number crunching and probably some required political support in VA. As i mentioned a few weeks ago, CUSA is probably the right move given the current landscape. That said, JMU is very conservative with these decisions, so I'm inclined to think they stay put. It just feels that way. Hope I'm wrong.

(10-20-2021 12:26 PM)boozeNammo Wrote:  I'm one of the old timers on these boards so been through this washer several times... and my spidey-senses are telling me we stay put. The risk vs opportunity cost argument can be fashioned in a few different ways but the one thing you cannot change is that each of the three situations (options or potential options) we have require quite a bit of number crunching and probably some required political support in VA. As i mentioned a few weeks ago, CUSA is probably the right move given the current landscape. That said, JMU is very conservative with these decisions, so I'm inclined to think they stay put. It just feels that way. Hope I'm wrong.

(10-20-2021 12:37 PM)Anders Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 12:37 PM)Anders Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 12:33 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 12:26 PM)boozeNammo Wrote:  I'm one of the old timers on these boards so been through this washer several times... and my spidey-senses are telling me we stay put. The risk vs opportunity cost argument can be fashioned in a few different ways but the one thing you cannot change is that each of the three situations (options or potential options) we have require quite a bit of number crunching and probably some required political support in VA. As i mentioned a few weeks ago, CUSA is probably the right move given the current landscape. That said, JMU is very conservative with these decisions, so I'm inclined to think they stay put. It just feels that way. Hope I'm wrong.

No joke, after the last decade, it would a colossal disappointment. Big 12 realignment was something JMU has pointed to for years as the next big shake up.

I would expect interest/attendance/donations to fall off a cliff. Fool me once...

(10-20-2021 12:37 PM)Anders Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 12:44 PM)jmu007 Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 12:33 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 12:26 PM)boozeNammo Wrote:  I'm one of the old timers on these boards so been through this washer several times... and my spidey-senses are telling me we stay put. The risk vs opportunity cost argument can be fashioned in a few different ways but the one thing you cannot change is that each of the three situations (options or potential options) we have require quite a bit of number crunching and probably some required political support in VA. As i mentioned a few weeks ago, CUSA is probably the right move given the current landscape. That said, JMU is very conservative with these decisions, so I'm inclined to think they stay put. It just feels that way. Hope I'm wrong.

No joke, after the last decade, it would a colossal disappointment. Big 12 realignment was something JMU has pointed to for years as the next big shake up.

I would expect interest/attendance/donations to fall off a cliff. Fool me once...

If we end up left behind in the CAA again.... Speaking for myself here obviously, but I will say my future giving decisions with regards to anything above the minimum are directly tied to this at this point.

(10-20-2021 12:44 PM)jmu007 Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 12:33 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 12:26 PM)boozeNammo Wrote:  I'm one of the old timers on these boards so been through this washer several times... and my spidey-senses are telling me we stay put. The risk vs opportunity cost argument can be fashioned in a few different ways but the one thing you cannot change is that each of the three situations (options or potential options) we have require quite a bit of number crunching and probably some required political support in VA. As i mentioned a few weeks ago, CUSA is probably the right move given the current landscape. That said, JMU is very conservative with these decisions, so I'm inclined to think they stay put. It just feels that way. Hope I'm wrong.

No joke, after the last decade, it would a colossal disappointment. Big 12 realignment was something JMU has pointed to for years as the next big shake up.

I would expect interest/attendance/donations to fall off a cliff. Fool me once...

If we end up left behind in the CAA again.... Speaking for myself here obviously, but I will say my future giving decisions with regards to anything above the minimum are directly tied to this at this point.

(10-20-2021 12:41 PM)JMUPride Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 12:26 PM)boozeNammo Wrote:  I'm one of the old timers on these boards so been through this washer several times... and my spidey-senses are telling me we stay put. The risk vs opportunity cost argument can be fashioned in a few different ways but the one thing you cannot change is that each of the three situations (options or potential options) we have require quite a bit of number crunching and probably some required political support in VA. As i mentioned a few weeks ago, CUSA is probably the right move given the current landscape. That said, JMU is very conservative with these decisions, so I'm inclined to think they stay put. It just feels that way. Hope I'm wrong.

This x100

Almost humorous at this point people are convinced we're going anywhere. 95% chance we continue sitting on our butts and "monitor the situation".

Pretty sure the vast majority of the people thinking we're moving up now weren't around discussing it 20+ years ago when we first talked about fbs/I-A. If we really wanted to move up, we would have around 2010... everything is a pipe dream at this point.

(10-20-2021 12:43 PM)boozeNammo Wrote:  If The Herd runs to the SB, how the hell does CUSA survive? That conference is on life support. This is nuts (and admittedly, kinda fun to watch).

(10-20-2021 12:52 PM)MarginalDuke Wrote:  Apparently also reported is that Grand Valley St. will move up to OVC in 2023. Prepared to get lapped by D2 powers if we don’t go CUSA.

(10-20-2021 12:56 PM)hburg Wrote:  They cannot play conservative this time. It was a bad move last time not moving up, would be even worse if it doesn't happen this time.