(10-11-2021 11:00 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 10:47 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(10-10-2021 07:45 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(10-10-2021 07:28 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  

(10-10-2021 07:24 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  What would that make JMU then?

You are right, it's been a while since we went undefeated, finished ranked in the Top 10, and had multiple Heisman Finalists. Kind of hard to expect to do that on a regular basis as a G5 program.

Even with that, since the last round of realignment (going in to this season) we have spent more time ranked in the Top 25 than all of the other CUSA and SBC programs combined.

We have had multiple games with 40k fans.

We have beat the following teams: Louisville, Maryland, Purdue, Cincy.

So you are correct, we aren't at the top of our peak right now, but to claim Marshall is a has been is just incorrect, and even if it were true, it's better than a never was I suppose.

Attendance Saturday 10/9/21:

JMU 25,035
Marshall 24,172

Outcomes on Saturday:

JMU lost to Villanova

Marshall beat your big brother ODU.

Did you really just toot your horn by bragging about beating ODU? REALLY?

I haven't had any issue with you until now. That's just plain, silly man. When you beat UMASS you gonna brag about it?!?!

Bragging? No.

Using the moment to stir the pot calling ODU your big brother? Yes.

(10-11-2021 09:33 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 09:11 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 06:26 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  

(10-10-2021 08:55 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  I am not going to poo poo Marshall. They are a program I wish to align with so knocking them doesn’t make sense to me.

Marshall may very well get an AAC invite. They need to decide if that’s where they want to be. I think they are the hold up for JMU joining the SB. Everyone I know close the App states App has no interest in the AAC.

All I am saying is that this herdfan guy comes to our boards as some kind of conference expert demeans JMU while doing so forgetting where he came from (Marshall was once an FCS power who moved up successfully to FBS) and forgetting where his program is now (not very good). How about some perspective- Marshall football isn’t very good right now and certainly not what it used to be. You want to say it was a high bar they set ok but they have clearly plateaued and their trend line is flat or slightly down. Saturday not withstanding our program is clearly trending the other direction.

I have not demeaned JMU. I like JMU and wish you guys were in a conference with us. Yes, I back snide comments back to people when they say stuff about my school, that's normal.

Marshall might not be very good right now by our standards, but we are still better and get more exposure than JMU, so what does that say about JMU and FCS football?

As I previously stated....

Since the last round of realignment (going in to this season) we have spent more time ranked in the Top 25 than all of the other CUSA and SBC programs combined.

We have had multiple games with 40k fans.

We have beat the following teams: Louisville, Maryland, Purdue, Cincy.

So you are correct, we aren't at the top of our peak right now, but to claim Marshall is a has been is just incorrect.

JMU fans would LOVE to have that kind of resume since 2014.

Your resume is deceiving.
You haven't beaten Louisville since 2011.
You beat Maryland in 2013 at a neutral site.
You beat Perdue in 2014, but you did it at home, which is something that is impossible for us to do right now.
You beat Marshall in Cincinatti in 2017. I'll give you that one.
If you are going to spout numbers, at least be truthful about them.

We beat a top 10 ranked VT team in their house. Last time you beat them was in 1940.
Just wondering: when was the last time you beat a top 10 team in their house?
When was the last time you beat a top 10 FBS team as an FCS program?

It's easy to brag about your schedule when you get FBS programs every week. We get once a year (if we are lucky) and they are always at our opponents place. If we were FBS, we would be able to boast similar stats because we'd have a higher percentage of games and teams to use for our resume. We don't, so congratulations to you.
For an FCS program, our resume is pretty damn good.

Oh and for the record, I am way more impressed by your loss at App State than your OT win at home against ODU. And you want to brag about that ODU win??? Come on. You are way better than that.

(10-11-2021 10:32 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 09:35 AM)Madisonian Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 09:11 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  We have had multiple games with 40k fans.

Yep that Louisville game you keep touting was a lot of fun and 40k did show up. That said…

https://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/chuck-landon-why-is-mus-attendance-so-low/article_f5e53771-1f7d-5000-b684-7d865ad70eb7.html

LOL...we played them just as close as most other teams did at that point of the season. Who knows what they would have done to a lowly FCS school like JMU.

(10-11-2021 12:13 PM)Capt Ed Wrote:  A new wrinkle to the re-organization saga:

https://redirect.viglink.com/?format=go&jsonp=vglnk_163397200612312&key=1686da1044273e8a4540f89500b72810&libId=kumwqhyx01001vmn000DL1gkxsimb&loc=https%3A%2F%2Fcsnbbs.com%2Fthread-931778.html&v=1&out=https%3A%2F%2Fsaturdayblitz.com%2F2021%2F10%2F11%2Faac-football-realignment-mapping-out-new-conference%2F&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fcsnbbs.com%2Fforum-409.html&title=Breaking%20News%3A%20Regionalization%20is%20AAC%27s%20Plan&txt=https%3A%2F%2Fsaturdayblitz.com%2F2021%2F10%2F11%2Faac...onference%2F

Temple University President also seems to be signalling it's coming.

https://247sports.com/college/temple/Article/Temple-football-AAC-Jason-Wingard-sees-geographical-limits-to-conference-realignment-172818580/

(10-11-2021 09:59 AM)jmu98 Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 09:45 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  It is highly unlikely the AAC goes after a second North Carolina school so App and Charlotte are out. I think UAB is a lock. S. Miss. might be in the mix. Marshall will probably be invited to the AAC. Marshall and S. Miss. have history with the existing AAC schools. UAB is a no brainer. Big market, good athletics and solid fan base. They also are a research institution with a good medical school. They check all of the boxes.

So who will be the 12 school? Adding a Virginia school to round out the east division just makes sense. Is it Liberty, ODU or JMU.

I just can't see Southern Miss as they have a 25 million dollar athletics budget and it really hasn't moved much the last 5 years so they are just not investing in their programs.

Agree that UAB is a lock as after almost going away there has been a huge investment in football and athletics. I could see Marshall as they have a good overall athletic program and a good history in football. Issue is that they are in a dying state with little to no growth in the university as far as student population over the last number of years.

(10-11-2021 01:21 PM)jmufbs Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 09:59 AM)jmu98 Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 09:45 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  It is highly unlikely the AAC goes after a second North Carolina school so App and Charlotte are out. I think UAB is a lock. S. Miss. might be in the mix. Marshall will probably be invited to the AAC. Marshall and S. Miss. have history with the existing AAC schools. UAB is a no brainer. Big market, good athletics and solid fan base. They also are a research institution with a good medical school. They check all of the boxes.

So who will be the 12 school? Adding a Virginia school to round out the east division just makes sense. Is it Liberty, ODU or JMU.

I just can't see Southern Miss as they have a 25 million dollar athletics budget and it really hasn't moved much the last 5 years so they are just not investing in their programs.

Agree that UAB is a lock as after almost going away there has been a huge investment in football and athletics. I could see Marshall as they have a good overall athletic program and a good history in football. Issue is that they are in a dying state with little to no growth in the university as far as student population over the last number of years.

i don't understand this infatuation with Marshall. they are a program that has already hit their ceiling in FB, has very little " market" even in their home state of WV, which is sparsely populated. WVU OWNS that state and the media coverage there. Look at their recent attendance problems. i don't see the AAC betting on the future with Marshall. JMU offers DC/ Richmond/ Tidewater and proven social media and streaming metrics which are trending much better than Marshall from a trajectory standpoint. Basketball facilities crush Marshall now, and we all know our BB program has the sky as the limit. Lots to see once you pull the curtain back, and JMU has a lot over Marshall when you do that. AAC has already pulled the curtain back, rest assured.

(10-11-2021 10:32 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 09:35 AM)Madisonian Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 09:11 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  We have had multiple games with 40k fans.

Yep that Louisville game you keep touting was a lot of fun and 40k did show up. That said…

https://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/chuck-landon-why-is-mus-attendance-so-low/article_f5e53771-1f7d-5000-b684-7d865ad70eb7.html

LOL...we played them just as close as most other teams did at that point of the season. Who knows what they would have done to a lowly FCS school like JMU.

(10-11-2021 11:26 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  schools that were once in a conference with Marshall, and then left them for a prettier girl:

UCF
Memphis
East Carolina
Tulsa
Houston
SMU
Tulane

could soon add:

UAB, UTSA, Charlotte, ODU, Southern Miss, WKU

that's a lot of rejection for such a 'catch'

(10-11-2021 03:05 PM)Madisonian Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 10:32 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 09:35 AM)Madisonian Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 09:11 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  We have had multiple games with 40k fans.

Yep that Louisville game you keep touting was a lot of fun and 40k did show up. That said…

https://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/chuck-landon-why-is-mus-attendance-so-low/article_f5e53771-1f7d-5000-b684-7d865ad70eb7.html

LOL...we played them just as close as most other teams did at that point of the season. Who knows what they would have done to a lowly FCS school like JMU.

Hmmm… all very interesting. I was clearly, distinctly and explicitly discussing game attendance. That 2016 Louisville game was the final time MU had 40k in the stadium. The other two times were both against WVU over a decade ago. I’ll stand over here in the camp of why Marshall would want more drivable games for fans (cough JMU cough) as having 14,000 + extra folks on game day is better than the status quo. Let me know when you get here and we can chat.

(10-11-2021 03:41 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 03:05 PM)Madisonian Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 10:32 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 09:35 AM)Madisonian Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 09:11 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  We have had multiple games with 40k fans.

Yep that Louisville game you keep touting was a lot of fun and 40k did show up. That said…

https://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/chuck-landon-why-is-mus-attendance-so-low/article_f5e53771-1f7d-5000-b684-7d865ad70eb7.html

LOL...we played them just as close as most other teams did at that point of the season. Who knows what they would have done to a lowly FCS school like JMU.

Hmmm… all very interesting. I was clearly, distinctly and explicitly discussing game attendance. That 2016 Louisville game was the final time MU had 40k in the stadium. The other two times were both against WVU over a decade ago. I’ll stand over here in the camp of why Marshall would want more drivable games for fans (cough JMU cough) as having 14,000 + extra folks on game day is better than the status quo. Let me know when you get here and we can chat.

If JMU even brought half that amount then you would be our new favorite conference mate. No one travels these days. Marshall usually has a good crowd at most away games because we play in the south where our alumni bases are. No one ever brings more than a couple hundred fans to Marshall (except for the P5s).

(10-11-2021 03:41 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 03:05 PM)Madisonian Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 10:32 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 09:35 AM)Madisonian Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 09:11 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  We have had multiple games with 40k fans.

Yep that Louisville game you keep touting was a lot of fun and 40k did show up. That said…

https://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/chuck-landon-why-is-mus-attendance-so-low/article_f5e53771-1f7d-5000-b684-7d865ad70eb7.html

LOL...we played them just as close as most other teams did at that point of the season. Who knows what they would have done to a lowly FCS school like JMU.

Hmmm… all very interesting. I was clearly, distinctly and explicitly discussing game attendance. That 2016 Louisville game was the final time MU had 40k in the stadium. The other two times were both against WVU over a decade ago. I’ll stand over here in the camp of why Marshall would want more drivable games for fans (cough JMU cough) as having 14,000 + extra folks on game day is better than the status quo. Let me know when you get here and we can chat.

If JMU even brought half that amount then you would be our new favorite conference mate. No one travels these days. Marshall usually has a good crowd at most away games because we play in the south where our alumni bases are. No one ever brings more than a couple hundred fans to Marshall (except for the P5s).

(10-11-2021 03:52 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 03:41 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 03:05 PM)Madisonian Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 10:32 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(10-11-2021 09:35 AM)Madisonian Wrote:  Yep that Louisville game you keep touting was a lot of fun and 40k did show up. That said…

https://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/chuck-landon-why-is-mus-attendance-so-low/article_f5e53771-1f7d-5000-b684-7d865ad70eb7.html

LOL...we played them just as close as most other teams did at that point of the season. Who knows what they would have done to a lowly FCS school like JMU.

Hmmm… all very interesting. I was clearly, distinctly and explicitly discussing game attendance. That 2016 Louisville game was the final time MU had 40k in the stadium. The other two times were both against WVU over a decade ago. I’ll stand over here in the camp of why Marshall would want more drivable games for fans (cough JMU cough) as having 14,000 + extra folks on game day is better than the status quo. Let me know when you get here and we can chat.

If JMU even brought half that amount then you would be our new favorite conference mate. No one travels these days. Marshall usually has a good crowd at most away games because we play in the south where our alumni bases are. No one ever brings more than a couple hundred fans to Marshall (except for the P5s).

One thing is certain: our fans go to all games. It doesn't matter where we are. There is always a JMU contingent.
Seeing as how Marshall is only a few hours away, I could pretty much guarantee that you would see more than a few hundred JMU fans in Huntington if we were to play.
If we played enough where a rivalry was built? That number would only increase.
We have always supported our teams. That will only improve as we move to FBS.

(10-11-2021 12:13 PM)Capt Ed Wrote:  A new wrinkle to the re-organization saga:

https://redirect.viglink.com/?format=go&jsonp=vglnk_163397200612312&key=1686da1044273e8a4540f89500b72810&libId=kumwqhyx01001vmn000DL1gkxsimb&loc=https%3A%2F%2Fcsnbbs.com%2Fthread-931778.html&v=1&out=https%3A%2F%2Fsaturdayblitz.com%2F2021%2F10%2F11%2Faac-football-realignment-mapping-out-new-conference%2F&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fcsnbbs.com%2Fforum-409.html&title=Breaking%20News%3A%20Regionalization%20is%20AAC%27s%20Plan&txt=https%3A%2F%2Fsaturdayblitz.com%2F2021%2F10%2F11%2Faac...onference%2F

Temple University President also seems to be signalling it's coming.

https://247sports.com/college/temple/Article/Temple-football-AAC-Jason-Wingard-sees-geographical-limits-to-conference-realignment-172818580/

(10-11-2021 04:21 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  13 duplicate posts, a new record?