(09-08-2021 05:37 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  Liberty and ODU getting mentions to join the AAC

I'll just leave it at that

(09-08-2021 06:16 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  

(09-08-2021 05:37 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  Liberty and ODU getting mentions to join the AAC

I'll just leave it at that

On a message board. I would say ODU has a way better chance than Liberty, but a small chance at that. Liberty has no shot as whether you agree or not most University Presidents do not want to associate with Liberty. Not saying its right, but it is factual.

(09-08-2021 06:31 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(09-08-2021 06:16 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  

(09-08-2021 05:37 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  Liberty and ODU getting mentions to join the AAC

I'll just leave it at that

On a message board. I would say ODU has a way better chance than Liberty, but a small chance at that. Liberty has no shot as whether you agree or not most University Presidents do not want to associate with Liberty. Not saying its right, but it is factual.

Actually, seeing plenty of sports writers mentioning those as possibilities. Not saying they're right, but it is not just message board posters.

Additionally, I'm not seeing ANY mention of JMU in the AAC chatter beyond this message board.

(09-03-2021 08:53 PM)panama Wrote:  The only way the AAC is adding someone outside of their institutional profile is if they run out of available options and their institutional profile is "Member universities represent a range of private and public universities of various enrollment sizes located primarily in urban metropolitan areas in the Northeastern, Midwestern, and Southern regions of the United States.["

They are a bunch of urban R1s.

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(09-08-2021 01:09 PM)SlyFox Wrote:  Apples to oranges with regard to LU considering most of that time was spent in FCS. And that last bowl game vs.Coastal was far from an outlier. It featured two Top 20 teams in prime time.

And I am surprised to hear that none of our games last season on ACC Network vs. Syracuse, Virginia Tech & NC State generated at least 166k viewers. That's curious.

(09-03-2021 08:53 PM)panama Wrote:  The only way the AAC is adding someone outside of their institutional profile is if they run out of available options and their institutional profile is "Member universities represent a range of private and public universities of various enrollment sizes located primarily in urban metropolitan areas in the Northeastern, Midwestern, and Southern regions of the United States.["

They are a bunch of urban R1s.

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(09-08-2021 01:57 PM)olddawg Wrote:  Let me preface this by saying I have posted on another conference / team site a total of ONE time. I have though, since Friday, been reading the C-USA and AAC re-alignment threads. It's truly worth a visit. Fans from all over the place (yet oddly, comparatively few from the existing AAC schools) piping in. The mentality seems to be that if you throw out the same tired and factually inaccurate argument 37 different times, that will win you the discussion.

While we have some pretty delusional fans over here sometimes, we are nothing compared to the pimping and whoring that's going on over there- primarily the AAC realignment thread. My logic teacher from JMU would be rolling over in her grave with the amount of logical fallacies thrown out on that thread. But even beyond that, the constant bickering about which team with warts is prettier than the other is comical. "Pick me, pick me, pick me".

Sure will be interesting to see how this plays out.

(09-03-2021 08:53 PM)panama Wrote:  The only way the AAC is adding someone outside of their institutional profile is if they run out of available options and their institutional profile is "Member universities represent a range of private and public universities of various enrollment sizes located primarily in urban metropolitan areas in the Northeastern, Midwestern, and Southern regions of the United States.["

They are a bunch of urban R1s.

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(09-08-2021 06:16 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  

(09-08-2021 05:37 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  Liberty and ODU getting mentions to join the AAC

I'll just leave it at that

On a message board. I would say ODU has a way better chance than Liberty, but a small chance at that. Liberty has no shot as whether you agree or not most University Presidents do not want to associate with Liberty. Not saying its right, but it is factual.

(09-03-2021 08:53 PM)panama Wrote:  The only way the AAC is adding someone outside of their institutional profile is if they run out of available options and their institutional profile is "Member universities represent a range of private and public universities of various enrollment sizes located primarily in urban metropolitan areas in the Northeastern, Midwestern, and Southern regions of the United States.["

They are a bunch of urban R1s.

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(09-08-2021 06:31 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(09-08-2021 06:16 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  

(09-08-2021 05:37 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  Liberty and ODU getting mentions to join the AAC

I'll just leave it at that

On a message board. I would say ODU has a way better chance than Liberty, but a small chance at that. Liberty has no shot as whether you agree or not most University Presidents do not want to associate with Liberty. Not saying its right, but it is factual.

Actually, seeing plenty of sports writers mentioning those as possibilities. Not saying they're right, but it is not just message board posters.

Additionally, I'm not seeing ANY mention of JMU in the AAC chatter beyond this message board.

(09-03-2021 08:53 PM)panama Wrote:  The only way the AAC is adding someone outside of their institutional profile is if they run out of available options and their institutional profile is "Member universities represent a range of private and public universities of various enrollment sizes located primarily in urban metropolitan areas in the Northeastern, Midwestern, and Southern regions of the United States.["

They are a bunch of urban R1s.

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(09-08-2021 06:48 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  Have these east coast schools realized how great of a conference they can have? I would have thought a handful of intelligent people in charge would have figured this out a decade ago.

(09-03-2021 08:53 PM)panama Wrote:  The only way the AAC is adding someone outside of their institutional profile is if they run out of available options and their institutional profile is "Member universities represent a range of private and public universities of various enrollment sizes located primarily in urban metropolitan areas in the Northeastern, Midwestern, and Southern regions of the United States.["

They are a bunch of urban R1s.

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(09-08-2021 08:27 PM)MarginalDuke Wrote:  Interesting report out there that the estimated Big 12 per school media revenue value centers around $22.5 million. Bob Bowlsby said earlier that Texas and OU alone made up $14 million of the current $28 million per school. By this logic, the new quartet of schools save about $8 million in value per year.

While BYU is driving a good portion of that value, I imagine that this will still severely dampen the value that ESPN places on the AAC rights. Will be interesting to see the AAC’s quoted value post-departure and I can’t imagine adding most schools will move the needle much to recover.

(09-08-2021 08:31 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 08:53 PM)panama Wrote:  The only way the AAC is adding someone outside of their institutional profile is if they run out of available options and their institutional profile is "Member universities represent a range of private and public universities of various enrollment sizes located primarily in urban metropolitan areas in the Northeastern, Midwestern, and Southern regions of the United States.["

They are a bunch of urban R1s.

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(09-08-2021 06:31 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(09-08-2021 06:16 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  

(09-08-2021 05:37 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  Liberty and ODU getting mentions to join the AAC

I'll just leave it at that

On a message board. I would say ODU has a way better chance than Liberty, but a small chance at that. Liberty has no shot as whether you agree or not most University Presidents do not want to associate with Liberty. Not saying its right, but it is factual.

Actually, seeing plenty of sports writers mentioning those as possibilities. Not saying they're right, but it is not just message board posters.

Additionally, I'm not seeing ANY mention of JMU in the AAC chatter beyond this message board.

As I have mentioned in the past. JMU has absolutely 0% chance of getting invited to the AAC.

If you had moved up to the Sun Belt or CUSA back in 2014 then I think you all would have been successful at the G5 level. If you had moved up and been successful then I think you would be right in the thick of these discussions. Unfortunately for you guys, the AAC is not going to add ANYONE from the FCS level.

I've even seen Coastal's name thrown out there. That's how important FBS success is compared to FCS success.

(09-08-2021 08:35 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 08:53 PM)panama Wrote:  The only way the AAC is adding someone outside of their institutional profile is if they run out of available options and their institutional profile is "Member universities represent a range of private and public universities of various enrollment sizes located primarily in urban metropolitan areas in the Northeastern, Midwestern, and Southern regions of the United States.["

They are a bunch of urban R1s.

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(09-08-2021 08:27 PM)MarginalDuke Wrote:  Interesting report out there that the estimated Big 12 per school media revenue value centers around $22.5 million. Bob Bowlsby said earlier that Texas and OU alone made up $14 million of the current $28 million per school. By this logic, the new quartet of schools save about $8 million in value per year.

While BYU is driving a good portion of that value, I imagine that this will still severely dampen the value that ESPN places on the AAC rights. Will be interesting to see the AAC’s quoted value post-departure and I can’t imagine adding most schools will move the needle much to recover.

Depends on who they add etc. ESPN will definitely have a say so in things. I expect it to drop by at least 50%. Right now it's $7 million per school. I think the maximum would be $3.5 million per school. Just my uneducated guess.

(09-08-2021 08:26 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 08:53 PM)panama Wrote:  The only way the AAC is adding someone outside of their institutional profile is if they run out of available options and their institutional profile is "Member universities represent a range of private and public universities of various enrollment sizes located primarily in urban metropolitan areas in the Northeastern, Midwestern, and Southern regions of the United States.["

They are a bunch of urban R1s.

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(09-08-2021 01:57 PM)olddawg Wrote:  Let me preface this by saying I have posted on another conference / team site a total of ONE time. I have though, since Friday, been reading the C-USA and AAC re-alignment threads. It's truly worth a visit. Fans from all over the place (yet oddly, comparatively few from the existing AAC schools) piping in. The mentality seems to be that if you throw out the same tired and factually inaccurate argument 37 different times, that will win you the discussion.

While we have some pretty delusional fans over here sometimes, we are nothing compared to the pimping and whoring that's going on over there- primarily the AAC realignment thread. My logic teacher from JMU would be rolling over in her grave with the amount of logical fallacies thrown out on that thread. But even beyond that, the constant bickering about which team with warts is prettier than the other is comical. "Pick me, pick me, pick me".

Sure will be interesting to see how this plays out.

I know JMU is content being the biggest fish in the FCS pond, but the rest of us aspire to play at the highest level. Even though the odds are against us, we still want to try until there are no other options. Getting in to the AAC this go around could be everyone's last chance to make the next jump. Whoever wins big over the next few years in the AAC (Access Bowls, Top Rankings, etc) they will at the very least be in the discussion for future Big 12 expansion.

So you can laugh at it all you want, but most of the G5 fans know this is potentially the last life boat leaving the Titanic.

Does anyone think the other message board posters are making decisions, or that our posts will make a difference? Of course not....BUT, its something we all find interesting and enjoy chatting about. That's why I come to this board. This is the only thread I comment on. There's a lot of people who enjoy discussing conference realignment for various different reasons.

On that note, thank you all for having one of the longest and best discussions on this topic, and thank you for allowing outsiders like myself to come here and participate.

(09-08-2021 08:29 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 08:53 PM)panama Wrote:  The only way the AAC is adding someone outside of their institutional profile is if they run out of available options and their institutional profile is "Member universities represent a range of private and public universities of various enrollment sizes located primarily in urban metropolitan areas in the Northeastern, Midwestern, and Southern regions of the United States.["

They are a bunch of urban R1s.

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(09-08-2021 06:16 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  

(09-08-2021 05:37 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  Liberty and ODU getting mentions to join the AAC

I'll just leave it at that

On a message board. I would say ODU has a way better chance than Liberty, but a small chance at that. Liberty has no shot as whether you agree or not most University Presidents do not want to associate with Liberty. Not saying its right, but it is factual.

As a Liberty fan, I don't want to join a conference. Liberty will be the BYU of the east in another 10-15 years.