(11-10-2020 07:32 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(11-10-2020 06:09 PM)FBS Dave Wrote:  The exposure for Liberty goes way beyond the ACCN ratings. Any game on ACCN will be less than an ESPN game as ESPN has a much larger base of casual viewers. It’s great to be on ACCN though and much better than a steaming option.

Liberty gets all the added exposure of the game summary, the highlights on the wrap shows, the ranking discussions - it’s great exposure for Liberty (just as UCF had great exposure a few years ago).

It’s surprising there is even this low level of disagreement on the Indy path for JMU. I guess Marshall or App fans might get defensive as that is not their path, but JMU (like UConn) can have a much better Indy schedule with a mix of P5, G5, and Indy without the commitment to play a full G5 conference schedule.

Good info from Dukeman2. It looks like some of the heavy hitters are saying “enough” of this nonsense. It’s too bad it takes this to awaken admins from their “monitoring” slumber. They are getting paid decent coin to monitor.

That is an interesting take. Look at the success of the other Indies not named Liberty or BYU (who have more money than Midas) or Army (Storied national brand/service academy). UMASS, NMSU, and UCONN are disasters.

I wouldn’t mind at all sharing a conference with JMU, but there just isn’t room. If I had any say, if I were JMU, I’d come hat in hand and tail between legs to both the MAC and SBC. JMU has something to contribute. I’m not saying JMU could not be a successful Indy by any stretch, but it’ll be a bit more difficult to do than you think.

(11-10-2020 10:10 PM)FBS Dave Wrote:  

(11-10-2020 07:32 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(11-10-2020 06:09 PM)FBS Dave Wrote:  The exposure for Liberty goes way beyond the ACCN ratings. Any game on ACCN will be less than an ESPN game as ESPN has a much larger base of casual viewers. It’s great to be on ACCN though and much better than a steaming option.

Liberty gets all the added exposure of the game summary, the highlights on the wrap shows, the ranking discussions - it’s great exposure for Liberty (just as UCF had great exposure a few years ago).

It’s surprising there is even this low level of disagreement on the Indy path for JMU. I guess Marshall or App fans might get defensive as that is not their path, but JMU (like UConn) can have a much better Indy schedule with a mix of P5, G5, and Indy without the commitment to play a full G5 conference schedule.

Good info from Dukeman2. It looks like some of the heavy hitters are saying “enough” of this nonsense. It’s too bad it takes this to awaken admins from their “monitoring” slumber. They are getting paid decent coin to monitor.

That is an interesting take. Look at the success of the other Indies not named Liberty or BYU (who have more money than Midas) or Army (Storied national brand/service academy). UMASS, NMSU, and UCONN are disasters.

I wouldn’t mind at all sharing a conference with JMU, but there just isn’t room. If I had any say, if I were JMU, I’d come hat in hand and tail between legs to both the MAC and SBC. JMU has something to contribute. I’m not saying JMU could not be a successful Indy by any stretch, but it’ll be a bit more difficult to do than you think.

You are talking about Liberty as if they were a consensus to succeed. There were naysayers for Liberty too. Liberty actually had to proactively step forward and break the mold to set the ascension to Indy Path.

UConn is an Indy failure? They haven’t played as an Indy yet and they have great schedules lined up and their own TV contract. They are Big East for basketball so they really are living the best of both worlds outside of P5 money.

MAC? Sun Belt? CUSA? No thanks! If a conference was necessary for moving up any of those would be a fair consideration, but with the Indy path there is no need! Better to pick and choose a better schedule.

Take the lessons of Liberty and UConn and set an Indy path.

(11-10-2020 10:10 PM)FBS Dave Wrote:  

(11-10-2020 07:32 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(11-10-2020 06:09 PM)FBS Dave Wrote:  The exposure for Liberty goes way beyond the ACCN ratings. Any game on ACCN will be less than an ESPN game as ESPN has a much larger base of casual viewers. It’s great to be on ACCN though and much better than a steaming option.

Liberty gets all the added exposure of the game summary, the highlights on the wrap shows, the ranking discussions - it’s great exposure for Liberty (just as UCF had great exposure a few years ago).

It’s surprising there is even this low level of disagreement on the Indy path for JMU. I guess Marshall or App fans might get defensive as that is not their path, but JMU (like UConn) can have a much better Indy schedule with a mix of P5, G5, and Indy without the commitment to play a full G5 conference schedule.

Good info from Dukeman2. It looks like some of the heavy hitters are saying “enough” of this nonsense. It’s too bad it takes this to awaken admins from their “monitoring” slumber. They are getting paid decent coin to monitor.

That is an interesting take. Look at the success of the other Indies not named Liberty or BYU (who have more money than Midas) or Army (Storied national brand/service academy). UMASS, NMSU, and UCONN are disasters.

I wouldn’t mind at all sharing a conference with JMU, but there just isn’t room. If I had any say, if I were JMU, I’d come hat in hand and tail between legs to both the MAC and SBC. JMU has something to contribute. I’m not saying JMU could not be a successful Indy by any stretch, but it’ll be a bit more difficult to do than you think.

You are talking about Liberty as if they were a consensus to succeed. There were naysayers for Liberty too. Liberty actually had to proactively step forward and break the mold to set the ascension to Indy Path.

UConn is an Indy failure? They haven’t played as an Indy yet and they have great schedules lined up and their own TV contract. They are Big East for basketball so they really are living the best of both worlds outside of P5 money.

MAC? Sun Belt? CUSA? No thanks! If a conference was necessary for moving up any of those would be a fair consideration, but with the Indy path there is no need! Better to pick and choose a better schedule.

Take the lessons of Liberty and UConn and set an Indy path.

(11-11-2020 10:10 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(11-10-2020 10:10 PM)FBS Dave Wrote:  

(11-10-2020 07:32 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(11-10-2020 06:09 PM)FBS Dave Wrote:  The exposure for Liberty goes way beyond the ACCN ratings. Any game on ACCN will be less than an ESPN game as ESPN has a much larger base of casual viewers. It’s great to be on ACCN though and much better than a steaming option.

Liberty gets all the added exposure of the game summary, the highlights on the wrap shows, the ranking discussions - it’s great exposure for Liberty (just as UCF had great exposure a few years ago).

It’s surprising there is even this low level of disagreement on the Indy path for JMU. I guess Marshall or App fans might get defensive as that is not their path, but JMU (like UConn) can have a much better Indy schedule with a mix of P5, G5, and Indy without the commitment to play a full G5 conference schedule.

Good info from Dukeman2. It looks like some of the heavy hitters are saying “enough” of this nonsense. It’s too bad it takes this to awaken admins from their “monitoring” slumber. They are getting paid decent coin to monitor.

That is an interesting take. Look at the success of the other Indies not named Liberty or BYU (who have more money than Midas) or Army (Storied national brand/service academy). UMASS, NMSU, and UCONN are disasters.

I wouldn’t mind at all sharing a conference with JMU, but there just isn’t room. If I had any say, if I were JMU, I’d come hat in hand and tail between legs to both the MAC and SBC. JMU has something to contribute. I’m not saying JMU could not be a successful Indy by any stretch, but it’ll be a bit more difficult to do than you think.

You are talking about Liberty as if they were a consensus to succeed. There were naysayers for Liberty too. Liberty actually had to proactively step forward and break the mold to set the ascension to Indy Path.

UConn is an Indy failure? They haven’t played as an Indy yet and they have great schedules lined up and their own TV contract. They are Big East for basketball so they really are living the best of both worlds outside of P5 money.

MAC? Sun Belt? CUSA? No thanks! If a conference was necessary for moving up any of those would be a fair consideration, but with the Indy path there is no need! Better to pick and choose a better schedule.

Take the lessons of Liberty and UConn and set an Indy path.

Do you even watch FBS football? Yes, UCONN is a disaster. Their schedule isnt horrible, but they are not going to invest the money in football needed to be successful. They will be lucky to even be close bowl eligible. They are a basketball school. Do you understand how much money needs to be invested to go Indy? That is where the bulk of their budget comes from. You act like they can just schedule anyone they want willy nilly. It doesn’t work that way. UCONNs budget is P5 echelon. JMUs is about half of UCONNs. You are comparing apples and tires.

UCONNs home schedule is garbage. And again, I’d rather be in a conference and reap the benefits of CFP money and having a shot at the access bowl.

(11-11-2020 02:22 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  Coach Freeze just got a raise and extension. The news article said it’s in the 3mil range. So he’s up there above most of the G5 and a good portion of the non elite P5.

(11-11-2020 02:38 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  

(11-11-2020 02:22 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  Coach Freeze just got a raise and extension. The news article said it’s in the 3mil range. So he’s up there above most of the G5 and a good portion of the non elite P5.

Good for him and his family.

I’m guessing the liberty board is probably a better place to post this.

(11-11-2020 02:44 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(11-11-2020 02:38 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  

(11-11-2020 02:22 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  Coach Freeze just got a raise and extension. The news article said it’s in the 3mil range. So he’s up there above most of the G5 and a good portion of the non elite P5.

Good for him and his family.

I’m guessing the liberty board is probably a better place to post this.

I posted it all over. This thread is also about LU.

(11-11-2020 03:00 PM)jmudukes001 Wrote:  

(11-11-2020 02:44 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(11-11-2020 02:38 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  

(11-11-2020 02:22 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  Coach Freeze just got a raise and extension. The news article said it’s in the 3mil range. So he’s up there above most of the G5 and a good portion of the non elite P5.

Good for him and his family.

I’m guessing the liberty board is probably a better place to post this.

I posted it all over. This thread is also about LU.

Good luck from this JMU fan against NC State and Coastal. To beat NC State and go 3-0 against the ACC this season would be an incredible achievement. The Coastal game should be fun to watch too.

I cannot even imagine the excitement on these boards and the JMU nation if we were ranked 23 or whatever and were 2-0 against the ACC. Would be our best season in history, and I think we already have a bigger more loyal fan base, a fan base that would increase tremendously more by a season like that. Can only imagine unfortunately.

(11-11-2020 03:00 PM)jmudukes001 Wrote:  Good luck from this JMU fan against NC State and Coastal. To beat NC State and go 3-0 against the ACC this season would be an incredible achievement. The Coastal game should be fun to watch too.

I cannot even imagine the excitement on these boards and the JMU nation if we were ranked 23 or whatever and were 2-0 against the ACC. Would be our best season in history, and I think we already have a bigger more loyal fan base, a fan base that would increase tremendously more by a season like that. Can only imagine unfortunately.

(11-11-2020 02:22 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  Coach Freeze just got a raise and extension. The news article said it’s in the 3mil range. So he’s up there above most of the G5 and a good portion of the non elite P5.

(11-11-2020 03:49 PM)Dukeman2 Wrote:  Just for perspectives, Duke Dawg spent 10ys on these boards adamantly telling us the following:

- it was impossible to go from FCS to FBS without a conference affiliation
- Liberty would never be able to schedule home games against P5 schools
- ODU would never get home games against VA Tech and UVA

Oh yeah, this year he told us there would no no college football, period...

(11-11-2020 03:00 PM)jmudukes001 Wrote:  

(11-11-2020 02:44 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(11-11-2020 02:38 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  

(11-11-2020 02:22 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  Coach Freeze just got a raise and extension. The news article said it’s in the 3mil range. So he’s up there above most of the G5 and a good portion of the non elite P5.

Good for him and his family.

I’m guessing the liberty board is probably a better place to post this.

I posted it all over. This thread is also about LU.

Good luck from this JMU fan against NC State and Coastal. To beat NC State and go 3-0 against the ACC this season would be an incredible achievement. The Coastal game should be fun to watch too.

I cannot even imagine the excitement on these boards and the JMU nation if we were ranked 23 or whatever and were 2-0 against the ACC. Would be our best season in history, and I think we already have a bigger more loyal fan base, a fan base that would increase tremendously more by a season like that. Can only imagine unfortunately.

(11-11-2020 02:22 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  Coach Freeze just got a raise and extension. The news article said it’s in the 3mil range. So he’s up there above most of the G5 and a good portion of the non elite P5.