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systemic racism failures - bullet - 09-15-2020 07:12 PM
https://americanmind.org/essays/the-bigotry-of-social-justice/
Kind of a long article. Picks up when it talks about Thomas Sowell's books.
"...Economist Thomas Sowell, who just turned 90, has devoted a great deal of attention over his career to analyzing inter-group differences occurring around the world and across many centuries. The trilogy he wrote in the 1990s—Race and Culture; Migrations and Culture; and Conquests and Cultures—is his most comprehensive examination of the issue. His conclusion is that wide, persistent disparities are a fact of life in every heterogenous society. If all disparate socioeconomic outcomes are bad (except, perhaps, for purely random ones) then the pursuit of justice requires constantly reducing and ultimately eliminating every such disparity. According to Sowell, however, this supposed ideal is in fact contrary to the operation of every large, complex society known to the disciplines of history and anthropology. He offers so many particulars that it becomes clear the supply is infinite. A century ago, for example, Jews were 6% of Hungary’s population and 11% of Poland’s, but accounted for the majority of physicians in each country. Indonesia’s ethnic Chinese minority, about 5% of the population, owns some 80% of the nation’s invested capital. In the multinational Austro-Hungarian empire, 75% of Serbo-Croatian adults were illiterate in 1900, as were 40% of Poles, but only 6% of Germans....
If white privilege explains virtually everything about how whites come out ahead of blacks, how can “Jewish privilege” not explain how Jews come out ahead of Gentiles? How can “Asian privilege” not explain the educational and economic advantages that Americans of Asian ancestry enjoy over whites, blacks, and Hispanics? After all, the social justice framework demands summary rejection of the idea that there are reasons other than racism why some groups, including ones that have endured virulent bigotry within living memory, get along better in the modern world than other groups....
The third problem with the social justice consensus follows directly from the second. Since it rejects Enlightenment principles for formulating, evaluating, and debating ideas, it only makes sense that modern anti-racism also rejects Enlightenment principles about living together peacefully and fairly: inalienable rights, humans’ inherent equality and dignity, constitutionalism, tolerance, pluralism, and governments which derive their just powers from the consent of the governed. Social justice opposes and threatens liberal democracy by rejecting such principles, along with institutional pillars like a free press and independent courts, as devices that perpetuate and legitimate the oppression of the oppressed...."
RE: systemic racism failures - vandiver49 - 09-16-2020 08:32 AM
I think the counter argument is that traditional WASP's have 'adopted' other ethnic groups (Irish, Jewish, Asian) into the white mono-culture while blacks and Hispanics, remain outside. It's an asinine argument, but the it advances the goal on keeping the focus primarily on blacks/whites.
RE: systemic racism failures - BatonRougeEscapee - 09-16-2020 10:26 AM
(09-16-2020 08:32 AM)vandiver49 Wrote: I think the counter argument is that traditional WASP's have 'adopted' other ethnic groups (Irish, Jewish, Asian) into the white mono-culture while blacks and Hispanics, remain outside. It's an asinine argument, but the it advances the goal on keeping the focus primarily on blacks/whites.
Don't forget the "white" hispanics. They're in the club when needed to promote racial strife.
RE: systemic racism failures - vandiver49 - 09-16-2020 04:42 PM
(09-16-2020 10:26 AM)BatonRougeEscapee Wrote:(09-16-2020 08:32 AM)vandiver49 Wrote: I think the counter argument is that traditional WASP's have 'adopted' other ethnic groups (Irish, Jewish, Asian) into the white mono-culture while blacks and Hispanics, remain outside. It's an asinine argument, but the it advances the goal on keeping the focus primarily on blacks/whites.
Don't forget the "white" hispanics. They're in the club when needed to promote racial strife.
My bad, I did forget that bit of mental gymnastics.
RE: systemic racism failures - MileHighBronco - 09-16-2020 06:01 PM
I shut down a liberal friend when she began a diatribe about 'systemic racism' with one simple question.
"Define systemic racism and give me examples."
As Sowell has proclaimed, it is a meaningless phrase that sounds good but nobody can define it.
RE: systemic racism failures - SuperFlyBCat - 09-16-2020 06:19 PM
(09-16-2020 08:32 AM)vandiver49 Wrote: I think the counter argument is that traditional WASP's have 'adopted' other ethnic groups (Irish, Jewish, Asian) into the white mono-culture while blacks and Hispanics, remain outside. It's an asinine argument, but the it advances the goal on keeping the focus primarily on blacks/whites.
WASP's are a minority in the USA. Traditionally poor immigrant groups came to the USA, stayed together, married each other, formed their own hoods and moved up the ladder. Eventually what WASP's thought became a non issue. Hispanic is nothing more than a person who comes from a Spanish speaking country that is not Spain, they can be any race or ethnicity. Nigerian Americans are the most likely in the USA to obtain a Masters Degree....and they tend to build strong nuclear family structures and never had to deal with the Marxist counter culture, Black Power (Anti White Anti Western Civilization) movements of the 1960's.