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RE: Unofficial 2022 Football Recruiting Thread - cidbearit - 04-14-2021 08:52 AM

(04-12-2021 10:02 PM)steve4840 Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 11:21 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 10:12 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 10:02 AM)cidbearit Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 09:56 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  Canton is Wayne County and Milan High School is technically in Monroe County.

You could argue that Dimitri Douglas (Saline) is one of the most recent Washtenaw County guys, although while recruited by EMU, he came to the Eagles as a transfer from MSU who had signed Douglas out of high school.

Guys, I think we're off on a tangent. The post wasn't which recruit lived closest to EMU or was from Washtenaw County. It was simply a statement that one player chose EMU because it was close to home. Canton is close to EMU.

yeah i mean i've brought it up on other threads - i wish cc recruited south east Michigan better. it is what it is.

I think we all agree. I think we all want local guys to play at EMU. I do wish Creighton made a harder push locally, but the fact is that the losing seasons scared a lot of guys away in the past. I am CERTAIN that the recent wins against the BIG10 and competitive MAC play will bode well for us and our ratings recently are proof of that. Bottom line is....Win a bowl game and the recruits will follow locally. Simple, I know but if we capitalize on what I believe is a 7-8 win season, the local guys will open eyes.

We're going back to 2018, but I can say that when CC was recruiting Alex, he put a lot of time and effort into the process directly himself. Part of the pitch was that CC really wanted to get more local guys on the team to try to both develop some momentum recruiting locally, and to attract local attendance to the games. In 2018, recruiting locally was a strong focus for CC, and I have no reason to believe his commitment to that has wained.

As others have commented, until this team develops a track record of winning and the EMU legal issues cease, CC is going to have a hard time competing with UM, MSU, CMU, and WMU for the in-state talent.


RE: Unofficial 2022 Football Recruiting Thread - emussuperfan - 04-14-2021 01:43 PM

I see to many players not enough minutes.


RE: Unofficial 2022 Football Recruiting Thread - steve4840 - 04-14-2021 02:56 PM

(04-14-2021 08:52 AM)cidbearit Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 10:02 PM)steve4840 Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 11:21 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 10:12 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 10:02 AM)cidbearit Wrote:  You could argue that Dimitri Douglas (Saline) is one of the most recent Washtenaw County guys, although while recruited by EMU, he came to the Eagles as a transfer from MSU who had signed Douglas out of high school.

Guys, I think we're off on a tangent. The post wasn't which recruit lived closest to EMU or was from Washtenaw County. It was simply a statement that one player chose EMU because it was close to home. Canton is close to EMU.

yeah i mean i've brought it up on other threads - i wish cc recruited south east Michigan better. it is what it is.

I think we all agree. I think we all want local guys to play at EMU. I do wish Creighton made a harder push locally, but the fact is that the losing seasons scared a lot of guys away in the past. I am CERTAIN that the recent wins against the BIG10 and competitive MAC play will bode well for us and our ratings recently are proof of that. Bottom line is....Win a bowl game and the recruits will follow locally. Simple, I know but if we capitalize on what I believe is a 7-8 win season, the local guys will open eyes.

We're going back to 2018, but I can say that when CC was recruiting Alex, he put a lot of time and effort into the process directly himself. Part of the pitch was that CC really wanted to get more local guys on the team to try to both develop some momentum recruiting locally, and to attract local attendance to the games. In 2018, recruiting locally was a strong focus for CC, and I have no reason to believe his commitment to that has wained.

As others have commented, until this team develops a track record of winning and the EMU legal issues cease, CC is going to have a hard time competing with UM, MSU, CMU, and WMU for the in-state talent.


I really believe if we can get 7 and possibly 8 wins this coming season, the recruiting will be even better than it has been. (I've been very impressed with with the recruiting, other than a lack of rush ends) Winning cures all that. This is the year. We have a 7th yr head coach, the OOC schedule isn't too brutal and we return a ton on both sides.


RE: Unofficial 2022 Football Recruiting Thread - EMUGLORYDAYSthe90's - 04-14-2021 06:28 PM

I've said forever, until CC does better then 6-7, 2-4, 7-6 E Michigan won't be taken seriously in local recruiting! C Mich won the MAC West a year ago, W Michigan the Fleck years, and E Mich it has been 34 years! And, this's a very favorable schedule coming up! 8-4 is a must, and a bowl win! We simply can't go 6-7 again! Year 8.......


RE: Unofficial 2022 Football Recruiting Thread - Jerry Weaver - 04-14-2021 06:50 PM

(04-14-2021 08:52 AM)cidbearit Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 10:02 PM)steve4840 Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 11:21 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 10:12 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 10:02 AM)cidbearit Wrote:  You could argue that Dimitri Douglas (Saline) is one of the most recent Washtenaw County guys, although while recruited by EMU, he came to the Eagles as a transfer from MSU who had signed Douglas out of high school.

Guys, I think we're off on a tangent. The post wasn't which recruit lived closest to EMU or was from Washtenaw County. It was simply a statement that one player chose EMU because it was close to home. Canton is close to EMU.

yeah i mean i've brought it up on other threads - i wish cc recruited south east Michigan better. it is what it is.

I think we all agree. I think we all want local guys to play at EMU. I do wish Creighton made a harder push locally, but the fact is that the losing seasons scared a lot of guys away in the past. I am CERTAIN that the recent wins against the BIG10 and competitive MAC play will bode well for us and our ratings recently are proof of that. Bottom line is....Win a bowl game and the recruits will follow locally. Simple, I know but if we capitalize on what I believe is a 7-8 win season, the local guys will open eyes.

We're going back to 2018, but I can say that when CC was recruiting Alex, he put a lot of time and effort into the process directly himself. Part of the pitch was that CC really wanted to get more local guys on the team to try to both develop some momentum recruiting locally, and to attract local attendance to the games. In 2018, recruiting locally was a strong focus for CC, and I have no reason to believe his commitment to that has wained.

As others have commented, until this team develops a track record of winning and the EMU legal issues cease, CC is going to have a hard time competing with UM, MSU, CMU, and WMU for the in-state talent.

Truth!


RE: Unofficial 2022 Football Recruiting Thread - dansplaining - 04-15-2021 06:29 AM

(04-14-2021 06:50 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(04-14-2021 08:52 AM)cidbearit Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 10:02 PM)steve4840 Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 11:21 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(04-12-2021 10:12 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Guys, I think we're off on a tangent. The post wasn't which recruit lived closest to EMU or was from Washtenaw County. It was simply a statement that one player chose EMU because it was close to home. Canton is close to EMU.

yeah i mean i've brought it up on other threads - i wish cc recruited south east Michigan better. it is what it is.

I think we all agree. I think we all want local guys to play at EMU. I do wish Creighton made a harder push locally, but the fact is that the losing seasons scared a lot of guys away in the past. I am CERTAIN that the recent wins against the BIG10 and competitive MAC play will bode well for us and our ratings recently are proof of that. Bottom line is....Win a bowl game and the recruits will follow locally. Simple, I know but if we capitalize on what I believe is a 7-8 win season, the local guys will open eyes.

We're going back to 2018, but I can say that when CC was recruiting Alex, he put a lot of time and effort into the process directly himself. Part of the pitch was that CC really wanted to get more local guys on the team to try to both develop some momentum recruiting locally, and to attract local attendance to the games. In 2018, recruiting locally was a strong focus for CC, and I have no reason to believe his commitment to that has wained.

As others have commented, until this team develops a track record of winning and the EMU legal issues cease, CC is going to have a hard time competing with UM, MSU, CMU, and WMU for the in-state talent.

Truth!

I'd rather go 8-4 with less michigan talent than 4-8 with lots of michigan talent.


RE: Unofficial 2022 Football Recruiting Thread - emu79 - 05-25-2021 05:19 AM

I know we do not have any 2022 commits publicly announced yet. I expect that to change once in person recruiting begins on June 1.


RE: Unofficial 2022 Football Recruiting Thread - emu steve - 05-25-2021 06:24 AM

(05-25-2021 05:19 AM)emu79 Wrote:  I know we do not have any 2022 commits publicly announced yet. I expect that to change once in person recruiting begins on June 1.

Agree and I think it is silly for a recruit to commit so early before having a chance to visits campuses for camp or an unofficial. The obvious exception is the kid who wanted to go to UofM, MSU, Alabama, etc since he was 10.

Since we are talking 2022 there is plenty of time to get it right.

One caveat. Folks need to figure out the scholarship numbers, number of recruits, etc. (I don't know what happened to the JUCO class of 2021?).

I suspect that a lot of 2021 JUCOs who didn't sign because their opportunities were taken up by the 'super seniors' will sign on in December as mid-year transfers. The big problem is that there may not be 2021 scholarships for them.

Teams, like EMU, are feasting on the transfers that are out there now. Not likely coaches are passing up proven FBS talent to have scholarships for mid-year JUCO transfers. In many respects for 2021, a FBS transfer is like the JUCO transfer of old. The coach's chance to get an experienced player who can contribute immediately for say two years.

2021 was a crazy year for recruits because of the 'super senior' provision.


RE: Unofficial 2022 Football Recruiting Thread - steve4840 - 05-29-2021 08:29 PM

(05-25-2021 06:24 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(05-25-2021 05:19 AM)emu79 Wrote:  I know we do not have any 2022 commits publicly announced yet. I expect that to change once in person recruiting begins on June 1.

Agree and I think it is silly for a recruit to commit so early before having a chance to visits campuses for camp or an unofficial. The obvious exception is the kid who wanted to go to UofM, MSU, Alabama, etc since he was 10.

Since we are talking 2022 there is plenty of time to get it right.

One caveat. Folks need to figure out the scholarship numbers, number of recruits, etc. (I don't know what happened to the JUCO class of 2021?).

I suspect that a lot of 2021 JUCOs who didn't sign because their opportunities were taken up by the 'super seniors' will sign on in December as mid-year transfers. The big problem is that there may not be 2021 scholarships for them.

Teams, like EMU, are feasting on the transfers that are out there now. Not likely coaches are passing up proven FBS talent to have scholarships for mid-year JUCO transfers. In many respects for 2021, a FBS transfer is like the JUCO transfer of old. The coach's chance to get an experienced player who can contribute immediately for say two years.

2021 was a crazy year for recruits because of the 'super senior' provision.

Man, I was wrong last year about complaining we didnt have any early enrollees. Now looking at the way CC was holding off due to an extra yr for all players and being able to pick from the transfer portal, I'm not overly concerned.

I will stick to my story that if we win 8 games I think it opens eyeballs. Our recruiting the last 3-4 years has been good and imagine if we won a MAC title. Man, I hop CC gets it done. He has the team this year to compete, get wins and help with recruiting.


RE: Unofficial 2022 Football Recruiting Thread - Jerry Weaver - 05-30-2021 05:33 PM

(05-29-2021 08:29 PM)steve4840 Wrote:  
(05-25-2021 06:24 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(05-25-2021 05:19 AM)emu79 Wrote:  I know we do not have any 2022 commits publicly announced yet. I expect that to change once in person recruiting begins on June 1.

Agree and I think it is silly for a recruit to commit so early before having a chance to visits campuses for camp or an unofficial. The obvious exception is the kid who wanted to go to UofM, MSU, Alabama, etc since he was 10.

Since we are talking 2022 there is plenty of time to get it right.

One caveat. Folks need to figure out the scholarship numbers, number of recruits, etc. (I don't know what happened to the JUCO class of 2021?).

I suspect that a lot of 2021 JUCOs who didn't sign because their opportunities were taken up by the 'super seniors' will sign on in December as mid-year transfers. The big problem is that there may not be 2021 scholarships for them.

Teams, like EMU, are feasting on the transfers that are out there now. Not likely coaches are passing up proven FBS talent to have scholarships for mid-year JUCO transfers. In many respects for 2021, a FBS transfer is like the JUCO transfer of old. The coach's chance to get an experienced player who can contribute immediately for say two years.

2021 was a crazy year for recruits because of the 'super senior' provision.

Man, I was wrong last year about complaining we didnt have any early enrollees. Now looking at the way CC was holding off due to an extra yr for all players and being able to pick from the transfer portal, I'm not overly concerned.

I will stick to my story that if we win 8 games I think it opens eyeballs. Our recruiting the last 3-4 years has been good and imagine if we won a MAC title. Man, I hop CC gets it done. He has the team this year to compete, get wins and help with recruiting.

Steve don't feel the least bit bad. Coach is a smart guy but NOBODY ever claimed he was overly aggressive, he promotes the fair catch, sits on leads and absolutely avoids potential bad citizen recruits. He is who he is and to date I vigorously accept him.

With the one time free pass of transfer, I honestly think the portal is a far more lucrative option than the High School ranks. I still love the fourth year senior, but I doubt that Maxx Crosby or for that matter Brogan Roback and Kevin Magill would have finished their collegiate careers at EMU under such rules. The world has changed and Coach Creighton has adapted, he has a clear strategy while it may have befuddled both of us, I feel sanguine about where we are going.


RE: Unofficial 2022 Football Recruiting Thread - emu steve - 06-01-2021 05:25 AM

Today is June 1. I believe football and basketball recruits can begin taking recruiting visits again.


RE: Unofficial 2022 Football Recruiting Thread - dansplaining - 06-01-2021 06:21 AM

(05-30-2021 05:33 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(05-29-2021 08:29 PM)steve4840 Wrote:  
(05-25-2021 06:24 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(05-25-2021 05:19 AM)emu79 Wrote:  I know we do not have any 2022 commits publicly announced yet. I expect that to change once in person recruiting begins on June 1.

Agree and I think it is silly for a recruit to commit so early before having a chance to visits campuses for camp or an unofficial. The obvious exception is the kid who wanted to go to UofM, MSU, Alabama, etc since he was 10.

Since we are talking 2022 there is plenty of time to get it right.

One caveat. Folks need to figure out the scholarship numbers, number of recruits, etc. (I don't know what happened to the JUCO class of 2021?).

I suspect that a lot of 2021 JUCOs who didn't sign because their opportunities were taken up by the 'super seniors' will sign on in December as mid-year transfers. The big problem is that there may not be 2021 scholarships for them.

Teams, like EMU, are feasting on the transfers that are out there now. Not likely coaches are passing up proven FBS talent to have scholarships for mid-year JUCO transfers. In many respects for 2021, a FBS transfer is like the JUCO transfer of old. The coach's chance to get an experienced player who can contribute immediately for say two years.

2021 was a crazy year for recruits because of the 'super senior' provision.

Man, I was wrong last year about complaining we didnt have any early enrollees. Now looking at the way CC was holding off due to an extra yr for all players and being able to pick from the transfer portal, I'm not overly concerned.

I will stick to my story that if we win 8 games I think it opens eyeballs. Our recruiting the last 3-4 years has been good and imagine if we won a MAC title. Man, I hop CC gets it done. He has the team this year to compete, get wins and help with recruiting.

Steve don't feel the least bit bad. Coach is a smart guy but NOBODY ever claimed he was overly aggressive, he promotes the fair catch, sits on leads and absolutely avoids potential bad citizen recruits. He is who he is and to date I vigorously accept him.

With the one time free pass of transfer, I honestly think the portal is a far more lucrative option than the High School ranks. I still love the fourth year senior, but I doubt that Maxx Crosby or for that matter Brogan Roback and Kevin Magill would have finished their collegiate careers at EMU under such rules. The world has changed and Coach Creighton has adapted, he has a clear strategy while it may have befuddled both of us, I feel sanguine about where we are going.

Crosby didnt finish his college career - he went pro a year early.


RE: Unofficial 2022 Football Recruiting Thread - emu79 - 06-01-2021 10:30 AM

Today's June 1 camp is sold out.


RE: Unofficial 2022 Football Recruiting Thread - Lefty One - 06-02-2021 10:56 AM

Should be some offers coming out after the camp, matter of how many and when.


RE: Unofficial 2022 Football Recruiting Thread - emu79 - 06-02-2021 12:55 PM

(06-02-2021 10:56 AM)Lefty One Wrote:  Should be some offers coming out after the camp, matter of how many and when.

They are but some to the 2023 and 2024 classes.


RE: Unofficial 2022 Football Recruiting Thread - Jerry Weaver - 06-02-2021 06:43 PM

(06-01-2021 06:21 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(05-30-2021 05:33 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(05-29-2021 08:29 PM)steve4840 Wrote:  
(05-25-2021 06:24 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(05-25-2021 05:19 AM)emu79 Wrote:  I know we do not have any 2022 commits publicly announced yet. I expect that to change once in person recruiting begins on June 1.

Agree and I think it is silly for a recruit to commit so early before having a chance to visits campuses for camp or an unofficial. The obvious exception is the kid who wanted to go to UofM, MSU, Alabama, etc since he was 10.

Since we are talking 2022 there is plenty of time to get it right.

One caveat. Folks need to figure out the scholarship numbers, number of recruits, etc. (I don't know what happened to the JUCO class of 2021?).

I suspect that a lot of 2021 JUCOs who didn't sign because their opportunities were taken up by the 'super seniors' will sign on in December as mid-year transfers. The big problem is that there may not be 2021 scholarships for them.

Teams, like EMU, are feasting on the transfers that are out there now. Not likely coaches are passing up proven FBS talent to have scholarships for mid-year JUCO transfers. In many respects for 2021, a FBS transfer is like the JUCO transfer of old. The coach's chance to get an experienced player who can contribute immediately for say two years.

2021 was a crazy year for recruits because of the 'super senior' provision.

Man, I was wrong last year about complaining we didnt have any early enrollees. Now looking at the way CC was holding off due to an extra yr for all players and being able to pick from the transfer portal, I'm not overly concerned.

I will stick to my story that if we win 8 games I think it opens eyeballs. Our recruiting the last 3-4 years has been good and imagine if we won a MAC title. Man, I hop CC gets it done. He has the team this year to compete, get wins and help with recruiting.

Steve don't feel the least bit bad. Coach is a smart guy but NOBODY ever claimed he was overly aggressive, he promotes the fair catch, sits on leads and absolutely avoids potential bad citizen recruits. He is who he is and to date I vigorously accept him.

With the one time free pass of transfer, I honestly think the portal is a far more lucrative option than the High School ranks. I still love the fourth year senior, but I doubt that Maxx Crosby or for that matter Brogan Roback and Kevin Magill would have finished their collegiate careers at EMU under such rules. The world has changed and Coach Creighton has adapted, he has a clear strategy while it may have befuddled both of us, I feel sanguine about where we are going.

Crosby didnt finish his college career - he went pro a year early.

OK Dan my friend, we can enter into the areas of semantics if you wish. Maxx DID finish his collegiate career at EMU, he did NOT, however, expend all of his eligibility. You are correct, he had one year left and I personally was delighted when he went pro instead of seeing him rushing off the end at a Power 5 program. Had he transferred to U-M or OSU, he probably would have been a first round draft pick and EMU would have been a destination in his rear view mirror. Maxx, instead has the Block E tattooed on his arm.


RE: Unofficial 2022 Football Recruiting Thread - dansplaining - 06-03-2021 06:10 AM

(06-02-2021 06:43 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(06-01-2021 06:21 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(05-30-2021 05:33 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(05-29-2021 08:29 PM)steve4840 Wrote:  
(05-25-2021 06:24 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Agree and I think it is silly for a recruit to commit so early before having a chance to visits campuses for camp or an unofficial. The obvious exception is the kid who wanted to go to UofM, MSU, Alabama, etc since he was 10.

Since we are talking 2022 there is plenty of time to get it right.

One caveat. Folks need to figure out the scholarship numbers, number of recruits, etc. (I don't know what happened to the JUCO class of 2021?).

I suspect that a lot of 2021 JUCOs who didn't sign because their opportunities were taken up by the 'super seniors' will sign on in December as mid-year transfers. The big problem is that there may not be 2021 scholarships for them.

Teams, like EMU, are feasting on the transfers that are out there now. Not likely coaches are passing up proven FBS talent to have scholarships for mid-year JUCO transfers. In many respects for 2021, a FBS transfer is like the JUCO transfer of old. The coach's chance to get an experienced player who can contribute immediately for say two years.

2021 was a crazy year for recruits because of the 'super senior' provision.

Man, I was wrong last year about complaining we didnt have any early enrollees. Now looking at the way CC was holding off due to an extra yr for all players and being able to pick from the transfer portal, I'm not overly concerned.

I will stick to my story that if we win 8 games I think it opens eyeballs. Our recruiting the last 3-4 years has been good and imagine if we won a MAC title. Man, I hop CC gets it done. He has the team this year to compete, get wins and help with recruiting.

Steve don't feel the least bit bad. Coach is a smart guy but NOBODY ever claimed he was overly aggressive, he promotes the fair catch, sits on leads and absolutely avoids potential bad citizen recruits. He is who he is and to date I vigorously accept him.

With the one time free pass of transfer, I honestly think the portal is a far more lucrative option than the High School ranks. I still love the fourth year senior, but I doubt that Maxx Crosby or for that matter Brogan Roback and Kevin Magill would have finished their collegiate careers at EMU under such rules. The world has changed and Coach Creighton has adapted, he has a clear strategy while it may have befuddled both of us, I feel sanguine about where we are going.

Crosby didnt finish his college career - he went pro a year early.

OK Dan my friend, we can enter into the areas of semantics if you wish. Maxx DID finish his collegiate career at EMU, he did NOT, however, expend all of his eligibility. You are correct, he had one year left and I personally was delighted when he went pro instead of seeing him rushing off the end at a Power 5 program. Had he transferred to U-M or OSU, he probably would have been a first round draft pick and EMU would have been a destination in his rear view mirror. Maxx, instead has the Block E tattooed on his arm.

first off so there isnt any confusion - i fully support maxx's choice and obviously he made the right one. i dont want anyone to take my comment as a criticism or anything.

i think for players the choice isnt as easy as you make it out to be. sure he could have gone to a P5 school but maybe he gets hurt or gets lost on the depth chart. hindsight being what it is he made the right call.

in the more general sense i think the increase in senior year transfers may help EMU if they can snag guys from Div 2 or 1-aa. MAC schools will lose guys but also - if theyre smart - pick them up.


RE: Unofficial 2022 Football Recruiting Thread - Jerry Weaver - 06-04-2021 06:39 PM

(06-03-2021 06:10 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(06-02-2021 06:43 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(06-01-2021 06:21 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(05-30-2021 05:33 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(05-29-2021 08:29 PM)steve4840 Wrote:  Man, I was wrong last year about complaining we didnt have any early enrollees. Now looking at the way CC was holding off due to an extra yr for all players and being able to pick from the transfer portal, I'm not overly concerned.

I will stick to my story that if we win 8 games I think it opens eyeballs. Our recruiting the last 3-4 years has been good and imagine if we won a MAC title. Man, I hop CC gets it done. He has the team this year to compete, get wins and help with recruiting.

Steve don't feel the least bit bad. Coach is a smart guy but NOBODY ever claimed he was overly aggressive, he promotes the fair catch, sits on leads and absolutely avoids potential bad citizen recruits. He is who he is and to date I vigorously accept him.

With the one time free pass of transfer, I honestly think the portal is a far more lucrative option than the High School ranks. I still love the fourth year senior, but I doubt that Maxx Crosby or for that matter Brogan Roback and Kevin Magill would have finished their collegiate careers at EMU under such rules. The world has changed and Coach Creighton has adapted, he has a clear strategy while it may have befuddled both of us, I feel sanguine about where we are going.

Crosby didnt finish his college career - he went pro a year early.

OK Dan my friend, we can enter into the areas of semantics if you wish. Maxx DID finish his collegiate career at EMU, he did NOT, however, expend all of his eligibility. You are correct, he had one year left and I personally was delighted when he went pro instead of seeing him rushing off the end at a Power 5 program. Had he transferred to U-M or OSU, he probably would have been a first round draft pick and EMU would have been a destination in his rear view mirror. Maxx, instead has the Block E tattooed on his arm.

first off so there isnt any confusion - i fully support maxx's choice and obviously he made the right one. i dont want anyone to take my comment as a criticism or anything.

i think for players the choice isnt as easy as you make it out to be. sure he could have gone to a P5 school but maybe he gets hurt or gets lost on the depth chart. hindsight being what it is he made the right call.

in the more general sense i think the increase in senior year transfers may help EMU if they can snag guys from Div 2 or 1-aa. MAC schools will lose guys but also - if theyre smart - pick them up.

Dan, let me contrast Maxx with another All-MAC defensive end, Michael Danna from CMU. Danna spent his last year of collegiate eligibility at U-M, instead of opting early for the NFL draft. He got the chance to play in front of 100K fans and enjoy the P5 college experience that Maxx did not. Danna was subsequently drafted by the KC Chiefs and remains on their roster and although he clearly lacks Maxx's foot speed and talent, he is doing pretty well considering the circumstances. You make a valid point, however, any decision these athletes make is hardly risk averse, Danna could have suffered a career ending injury at U-M and while I think Maxx may have elevated his draft status playing in the Power 5, there is no clear answer to the best choice.

I'm glad you bought this issue up Dan, because it is a tribute to Crosby. The Raiders list Maxx as coming from EMU, the Chiefs reference Danna as attending U-M while only playing their for a single season. Thanks Maxx!


RE: Unofficial 2022 Football Recruiting Thread - dansplaining - 06-07-2021 06:05 AM

(06-04-2021 06:39 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(06-03-2021 06:10 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(06-02-2021 06:43 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(06-01-2021 06:21 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(05-30-2021 05:33 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  Steve don't feel the least bit bad. Coach is a smart guy but NOBODY ever claimed he was overly aggressive, he promotes the fair catch, sits on leads and absolutely avoids potential bad citizen recruits. He is who he is and to date I vigorously accept him.

With the one time free pass of transfer, I honestly think the portal is a far more lucrative option than the High School ranks. I still love the fourth year senior, but I doubt that Maxx Crosby or for that matter Brogan Roback and Kevin Magill would have finished their collegiate careers at EMU under such rules. The world has changed and Coach Creighton has adapted, he has a clear strategy while it may have befuddled both of us, I feel sanguine about where we are going.

Crosby didnt finish his college career - he went pro a year early.

OK Dan my friend, we can enter into the areas of semantics if you wish. Maxx DID finish his collegiate career at EMU, he did NOT, however, expend all of his eligibility. You are correct, he had one year left and I personally was delighted when he went pro instead of seeing him rushing off the end at a Power 5 program. Had he transferred to U-M or OSU, he probably would have been a first round draft pick and EMU would have been a destination in his rear view mirror. Maxx, instead has the Block E tattooed on his arm.

first off so there isnt any confusion - i fully support maxx's choice and obviously he made the right one. i dont want anyone to take my comment as a criticism or anything.

i think for players the choice isnt as easy as you make it out to be. sure he could have gone to a P5 school but maybe he gets hurt or gets lost on the depth chart. hindsight being what it is he made the right call.

in the more general sense i think the increase in senior year transfers may help EMU if they can snag guys from Div 2 or 1-aa. MAC schools will lose guys but also - if theyre smart - pick them up.

Dan, let me contrast Maxx with another All-MAC defensive end, Michael Danna from CMU. Danna spent his last year of collegiate eligibility at U-M, instead of opting early for the NFL draft. He got the chance to play in front of 100K fans and enjoy the P5 college experience that Maxx did not. Danna was subsequently drafted by the KC Chiefs and remains on their roster and although he clearly lacks Maxx's foot speed and talent, he is doing pretty well considering the circumstances. You make a valid point, however, any decision these athletes make is hardly risk averse, Danna could have suffered a career ending injury at U-M and while I think Maxx may have elevated his draft status playing in the Power 5, there is no clear answer to the best choice.

I'm glad you bought this issue up Dan, because it is a tribute to Crosby. The Raiders list Maxx as coming from EMU, the Chiefs reference Danna as attending U-M while only playing their for a single season. Thanks Maxx!

Yeah I guess the general point I'm trying to make is that I support players making the moves that better prepare them for potential careers in football and I think if EMU's coaches are worth their salt - they're going to have to figure out how to recruit useful grad transfer seniors. That RB they got from JMU seems to indicate they can do it - and i think itll add another fold to roster construction - similar to how we (and other schools) use the JUCO ranks.


RE: Unofficial 2022 Football Recruiting Thread - Jerry Weaver - 06-07-2021 06:32 PM

(06-07-2021 06:05 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(06-04-2021 06:39 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(06-03-2021 06:10 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(06-02-2021 06:43 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(06-01-2021 06:21 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  Crosby didnt finish his college career - he went pro a year early.

OK Dan my friend, we can enter into the areas of semantics if you wish. Maxx DID finish his collegiate career at EMU, he did NOT, however, expend all of his eligibility. You are correct, he had one year left and I personally was delighted when he went pro instead of seeing him rushing off the end at a Power 5 program. Had he transferred to U-M or OSU, he probably would have been a first round draft pick and EMU would have been a destination in his rear view mirror. Maxx, instead has the Block E tattooed on his arm.

first off so there isnt any confusion - i fully support maxx's choice and obviously he made the right one. i dont want anyone to take my comment as a criticism or anything.

i think for players the choice isnt as easy as you make it out to be. sure he could have gone to a P5 school but maybe he gets hurt or gets lost on the depth chart. hindsight being what it is he made the right call.

in the more general sense i think the increase in senior year transfers may help EMU if they can snag guys from Div 2 or 1-aa. MAC schools will lose guys but also - if theyre smart - pick them up.

Dan, let me contrast Maxx with another All-MAC defensive end, Michael Danna from CMU. Danna spent his last year of collegiate eligibility at U-M, instead of opting early for the NFL draft. He got the chance to play in front of 100K fans and enjoy the P5 college experience that Maxx did not. Danna was subsequently drafted by the KC Chiefs and remains on their roster and although he clearly lacks Maxx's foot speed and talent, he is doing pretty well considering the circumstances. You make a valid point, however, any decision these athletes make is hardly risk averse, Danna could have suffered a career ending injury at U-M and while I think Maxx may have elevated his draft status playing in the Power 5, there is no clear answer to the best choice.

I'm glad you bought this issue up Dan, because it is a tribute to Crosby. The Raiders list Maxx as coming from EMU, the Chiefs reference Danna as attending U-M while only playing their for a single season. Thanks Maxx!

Yeah I guess the general point I'm trying to make is that I support players making the moves that better prepare them for potential careers in football and I think if EMU's coaches are worth their salt - they're going to have to figure out how to recruit useful grad transfer seniors. That RB they got from JMU seems to indicate they can do it - and i think itll add another fold to roster construction - similar to how we (and other schools) use the JUCO ranks.

Dan you are passionate about athlete's rights and I indeed admire you for doing so. All FBS football schools should be indeed preparing players for a future career, the same as the Chemistry department does for the students in their program. You are spot on!

Here is my concern. With the new transfer rules, Maxx certainly a Power 5 defensive end, would have benefited from a transfer to U-M a year earlier than he left EMU. Chase Winovich, U-M's star DE at the time, would have become Chase Who? Maxx was clearly better. Yes EMU will get better with aggressive recruiting of P5 castoffs, but the likelihood of them of going to the NFL is minimal. After all if they could not make it in the B1G, why expect a huge future in pro sports? Taking a longshot chance on a skinny kid like Crosby with the transfer portal so rich? EMU and its like will no longer provide a future avenue for playing the game professionally.

As you have accurately stated before, NCAA sports do indeed survive and thrive no matter the changes. I just dunno about this, I never warmed up to Murphy's BB team in 2018-19 when he turned over almost the entire roster even though the new guys worked very hard. I like some degree of continuance and loyalty. Maybe I'm just a dinosaur.