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RE: B1G having second thoughts? - EigenEagle - 09-01-2020 05:03 PM
RE: B1G having second thoughts? - TerryD - 09-01-2020 06:31 PM
(09-01-2020 05:03 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:
Nebraska AD Bill Moos denies report of possible October start date for Big Ten football.
https://www.yardbarker.com/college_football/articles/nebraska_ad_bill_moos_denies_report_of_possible_october_start_date_for_big_ten_football/s1_127_32764088?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
RE: B1G having second thoughts? - DavidSt - 09-01-2020 07:17 PM
(09-01-2020 06:31 PM)TerryD Wrote:(09-01-2020 05:03 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:
Nebraska AD Bill Moos denies report of possible October start date for Big Ten football.
https://www.yardbarker.com/college_football/articles/nebraska_ad_bill_moos_denies_report_of_possible_october_start_date_for_big_ten_football/s1_127_32764088?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
The school's leadership is now putting the leash on their AD from causing more problems since there are so many fans including Ohio State fans want the Big 10 leaders to boot Nebraska from the conference. They could have avoided all of this if Moos kept his big mouth shut. The documents showed he was fibbing and lying about the other schools.
B1G having second thoughts? - panama - 09-01-2020 07:29 PM
Yes because fans decide conference membership. ..
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RE: B1G having second thoughts? - UCGrad1992 - 09-01-2020 09:35 PM
(08-31-2020 07:54 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:(08-28-2020 06:26 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: No second thoughts. The B1G coaches and AD's supported playing the fall season. The problem for them is there was a vote, er no vote, by the conference presidents guided by the commish to have no football this fall. Anyone else notice that none of these constant storylines in the media is coming from the P12?
Yeah, because Pac 12 sports don't matter. Not even in their home markets. Hell NFL doesn't even matter to LA.
My point is the P12 handled their business in the right way. End of story. The B1G brought all this disunity, vote or no vote, player's lawsuit, angry parents, media microscope, universal mockery, et al., upon themselves. They have to own it now. The B1G commish is going to look the powerless fool if they play in 2020 because he is on record as saying the league was in consensus to cancel the season and the issue would not be revisited.
RE: B1G having second thoughts? - UCGrad1992 - 09-01-2020 09:44 PM
This was filed as part of the discovery phase in the Nebraska players' lawsuit against the B1G...
RE: B1G having second thoughts? - usffan - 09-02-2020 11:22 AM
(09-01-2020 05:03 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:
USFFan
RE: B1G having second thoughts? - UCGrad1992 - 09-02-2020 11:35 AM
RE: B1G having second thoughts? - quo vadis - 09-02-2020 02:28 PM
(09-02-2020 11:35 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: snip
Interesting that B1G teams are apparently practicing throughout the week as if there is a game on the weekend. They are basically doing everything but having the game. So why not have the games?
RE: B1G having second thoughts? - goofus - 09-02-2020 02:37 PM
(09-02-2020 02:28 PM)quo vadis Wrote:(09-02-2020 11:35 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: snip
Interesting that B1G teams are apparently practicing throughout the week as if there is a game on the weekend. They are basically doing everything but having the game. So why not have the games?
Not sure how serious you are, but one guess is that actual games involve an entirely different team traveling to another team's campus, then spend 3 hours in close physical contact with that different team. Plus actual games could also involve fans attending games.
RE: B1G having second thoughts? - quo vadis - 09-02-2020 03:01 PM
(09-02-2020 02:37 PM)goofus Wrote:(09-02-2020 02:28 PM)quo vadis Wrote:(09-02-2020 11:35 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: snip
Interesting that B1G teams are apparently practicing throughout the week as if there is a game on the weekend. They are basically doing everything but having the game. So why not have the games?
Not sure how serious you are, but one guess is that actual games involve an entirely different team traveling to another team's campus, then spend 3 hours in close physical contact with that different team. Plus actual games could also involve fans attending games.
Quite serious. If these teams are practicing, presumably they are gathered together and engaged in close physical contact after each player has been out and about making contact with who knows who.
Actual games can be played without fans, of course, and imagine traveling to another city, to their campus, and playing a game. How is that less safe than whatever else the team and the players will be doing during that same time frame? Doesn't really compute.
RE: B1G having second thoughts? - UCGrad1992 - 09-02-2020 03:04 PM
(09-02-2020 02:28 PM)quo vadis Wrote:(09-02-2020 11:35 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: snip
Interesting that B1G teams are apparently practicing throughout the week as if there is a game on the weekend. They are basically doing everything but having the game. So why not have the games?
Yep. That is why the decision made by the commish and the 11, er, the consensus majority of prez's several weeks ago looks so damn stupid now. Ohio State's prez came out with this today...
RE: B1G having second thoughts? - HiddenDragon - 09-02-2020 03:16 PM
The Ohio St. prez looks like she would consider a kiss sufficient enough for sex.
RE: B1G having second thoughts? - Pervis_Griffith - 09-02-2020 04:11 PM
I love this.
The Big Ten thought they could dictate to the rest of college football ... with nothing but pure sloppiness for reasons .... and now they are scrambling to try to keep up with the rest of college football, who basically called their bluff and continued working through the issues we all have to work through in life as we know it now.
I hope they figure out a way to play ... football is better with them playing. But the damage is done. The Big Ten hasn't just shot themselves in the foot -- they freakin' blew their foot off!
RE: B1G having second thoughts? - quo vadis - 09-02-2020 05:24 PM
(09-02-2020 04:11 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote: I love this.
The Big Ten thought they could dictate to the rest of college football ... with nothing but pure sloppiness for reasons .... and now they are scrambling to try to keep up with the rest of college football, who basically called their bluff and continued working through the issues we all have to work through in life as we know it now.
Yes, what remains inexplicable is the timing of the decision not to play in the Fall. There was zero reason to do so three weeks ago. The SEC, B12 and ACC have lost no flexibility at all, they can still cancel tomorrow if they want. But the B1G locked itself in for no discernible reason.
The only explanation that comes to mind is pride, a desire to gain plaudits from the press by acting first, a kind of puffed up virtue signaling.
RE: B1G having second thoughts? - UCGrad1992 - 09-02-2020 05:56 PM
I'm still waiting to see what comes from the Commish's prior statement...
![[Image: kevin-warren.jpg]](https://dailyiowan.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/kevin-warren.jpg)
Quote:Big Ten commissioner Kevin Warren on Wednesday released an open letter to the conference community stating that the vote by the Big Ten Council of Presidents and Chancellors was "overwhelmingly in support of postponing fall sports and will not be revisited."
Will It Stand?
Quote:In evaluating winter/spring models, we will explore many factors including the number of football games that can reasonably be played from a health perspective in a full calendar year while maintaining a premier competitive experience for our student-athletes culminating in a Big Ten Championship.
It's In Writing
RE: B1G having second thoughts? - Mav - 09-02-2020 07:04 PM
https://omaha.com/sports/huskers/football/court-ruling-big-ten-must-disclose-additional-documents-in-next-10-days/article_5dfb72e7-3bb7-586d-b354-b488c91441f3.html
Quote:The Big Ten must disclose additional information related to its decision to postpone fall sports and do so in the next 10 days, the Lancaster County District Court ruled Wednesday.
The order comes less than a week after eight Nebraska football players sued the league on multiple counts for its decision to push back fall sports. The Big Ten must produce all documents reflecting whether an official vote was taken on the decision, including the official tally but not including how individual members voted. It must also reveal in full its governing documents and bylaws — it submitted 13 pages of bylaws to the court last week but redacted more than 11 full pages.
...
The typical timeline for discovery in Nebraska is 45 days. Between NU players filing their lawsuit Aug. 27 and the Sept. 12 deadline, the Big Ten will be compelled to disclose documents within 16 days. Players’ argument to speed up the process is based on the idea that the decision to postpone wrongfully interferes with their business expectations to build their person brand and potentially profit from their name, image and likeness within a fall college season.
RE: B1G having second thoughts? - quo vadis - 09-02-2020 08:56 PM
One thing I think we can all agree on is that the lawsuit has forced the B1G to at least partially life the veil of secrecy around the internal workings that resulted in the cancel/postpone decision, and that's a good thing.
RE: B1G having second thoughts? - goofus - 09-02-2020 11:34 PM
(09-02-2020 03:01 PM)quo vadis Wrote:(09-02-2020 02:37 PM)goofus Wrote:(09-02-2020 02:28 PM)quo vadis Wrote:(09-02-2020 11:35 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: snip
Interesting that B1G teams are apparently practicing throughout the week as if there is a game on the weekend. They are basically doing everything but having the game. So why not have the games?
Not sure how serious you are, but one guess is that actual games involve an entirely different team traveling to another team's campus, then spend 3 hours in close physical contact with that different team. Plus actual games could also involve fans attending games.
Quite serious. If these teams are practicing, presumably they are gathered together and engaged in close physical contact after each player has been out and about making contact with who knows who.
Actual games can be played without fans, of course, and imagine traveling to another city, to their campus, and playing a game. How is that less safe than whatever else the team and the players will be doing during that same time frame? Doesn't really compute.
Thanks for clarifying. I have to confess it never occurred to me that playing games on Saturday would be considered just as safe from the virus as not playing. I guess the key question is what would the players and/or fans be doing instead on Saturday if they are not playing.i
RE: B1G having second thoughts? - quo vadis - 09-03-2020 06:49 AM
(09-02-2020 11:34 PM)goofus Wrote:(09-02-2020 03:01 PM)quo vadis Wrote:(09-02-2020 02:37 PM)goofus Wrote:(09-02-2020 02:28 PM)quo vadis Wrote:(09-02-2020 11:35 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: snip
Interesting that B1G teams are apparently practicing throughout the week as if there is a game on the weekend. They are basically doing everything but having the game. So why not have the games?
Not sure how serious you are, but one guess is that actual games involve an entirely different team traveling to another team's campus, then spend 3 hours in close physical contact with that different team. Plus actual games could also involve fans attending games.
Quite serious. If these teams are practicing, presumably they are gathered together and engaged in close physical contact after each player has been out and about making contact with who knows who.
Actual games can be played without fans, of course, and imagine traveling to another city, to their campus, and playing a game. How is that less safe than whatever else the team and the players will be doing during that same time frame? Doesn't really compute.
Thanks for clarifying. I have to confess it never occurred to me that playing games on Saturday would be considered just as safe from the virus as not playing. I guess the key question is what would the players and/or fans be doing instead on Saturday if they are not playing.i
Yes, there seems to be an assumption that if a team isn't playing a game, the players will all be self-isolating with masks on or something obviously safer from a virus spread perspective in some other location. But there's really no reason to believe that.