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Is Dixie St destined for the Big Sky? - Fighting Muskie - 08-14-2020 10:18 AM

I have to wonder if it’s inevitable that that Dixie St moves to the Big Sky to balance them out at 14 football schools and 12 for basketball.

With it being rough getting non-conference games out West they could play a 10 game conference schedule in football and a full double round robin in basketball for 22 games.

I think the Big Sky doesn’t want the stigma of taking a D2 call up so they are making them do their transition in the WAC.


RE: Is Dixie St destined for the Big Sky? - CrimsonPhantom - 08-14-2020 11:33 AM

Most likely.


RE: Is Dixie St destined for the Big Sky? - DoubleRSU - 08-14-2020 12:34 PM

How does adding them for a 12th basketball school really help them?

Big Sky teams already play each other non-conference in football, why do they need another football team?


RE: Is Dixie St destined for the Big Sky? - Fighting Muskie - 08-14-2020 12:45 PM

(08-14-2020 12:34 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  How does adding them for a 12th basketball school really help them?

Big Sky teams already play each other non-conference in football, why do they need another football team?

2 less basketball games to try to schedule.


RE: Is Dixie St destined for the Big Sky? - Itinerant Texan - 08-14-2020 01:02 PM

If the WAC can't/won't revive football, Dixie will bolt for the Big Sky and Tarleton will have to tuck its tail and go slum it in the SLC.


RE: Is Dixie St destined for the Big Sky? - DoubleRSU - 08-14-2020 01:36 PM

(08-14-2020 12:45 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 12:34 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  How does adding them for a 12th basketball school really help them?

Big Sky teams already play each other non-conference in football, why do they need another football team?

2 less basketball games to try to schedule.

They played a 20 game conference schedule last year. They’re going to go to 22 conference games?


RE: Is Dixie St destined for the Big Sky? - DoubleRSU - 08-14-2020 01:37 PM

(08-14-2020 01:02 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  If the WAC can't/won't revive football, Dixie will bolt for the Big Sky and Tarleton will have to tuck its tail and go slum it in the SLC.

Tarleton would love to tuck its tail and slum it in the SLC. There’s no room for them right now. That’s why they’re in the WAC.


RE: Is Dixie St destined for the Big Sky? - Itinerant Texan - 08-14-2020 02:14 PM

(08-14-2020 01:37 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 01:02 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  If the WAC can't/won't revive football, Dixie will bolt for the Big Sky and Tarleton will have to tuck its tail and go slum it in the SLC.

Tarleton would love to tuck its tail and slum it in the SLC. There’s no room for them right now. That’s why they’re in the WAC.

No, Tarleton wouldn't.


RE: Is Dixie St destined for the Big Sky? - TexanFan - 08-14-2020 03:16 PM

No, Tarleton wouldn't.

Truth.


RE: Is Dixie St destined for the Big Sky? - DoubleRSU - 08-14-2020 03:44 PM

(08-14-2020 03:16 PM)TexanFan Wrote:  No, Tarleton wouldn't.

Truth.

Why did they study only the WAC and Southland then? Why wasn’t the Summit, OVC, or other conference studied?

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5807b451725e257578f60dbf/t/5abfb908f950b77ed242ae4f/1522514194782/Tarleton+State+Study+2018.pdf

You’re trying to tell me your school would rather play Chicago St, Seattle U, California Baptist, and Utah Valley over Stephen F Austin, Lamar, Sam Houston, and Abilene Christian?


RE: Is Dixie St destined for the Big Sky? - Itinerant Texan - 08-14-2020 04:00 PM

(08-14-2020 03:44 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 03:16 PM)TexanFan Wrote:  No, Tarleton wouldn't.

Truth.

Why did they study only the WAC and Southland then? Why wasn’t the Summit, OVC, or other conference studied?

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5807b451725e257578f60dbf/t/5abfb908f950b77ed242ae4f/1522514194782/Tarleton+State+Study+2018.pdf

You’re trying to tell me your school would rather play Chicago St, Seattle U, California Baptist, and Utah Valley over Stephen F Austin, Lamar, Sam Houston, and Abilene Christian?

Yawn.


RE: Is Dixie St destined for the Big Sky? - TexanFan - 08-14-2020 04:02 PM

(08-14-2020 03:44 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 03:16 PM)TexanFan Wrote:  No, Tarleton wouldn't.

Truth.

Why did they study only the WAC and Southland then? Why wasn’t the Summit, OVC, or other conference studied?

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5807b451725e257578f60dbf/t/5abfb908f950b77ed242ae4f/1522514194782/Tarleton+State+Study+2018.pdf

You’re trying to tell me your school would rather play Chicago St, Seattle U, California Baptist, and Utah Valley over Stephen F Austin, Lamar, Sam Houston, and Abilene Christian?

Yes as the WAC has a tremendous upside while the Southland is all they will ever be. And who knows what the WAC is thinking, but maybe one, two or three teams you listed comes to the WAC.


RE: Is Dixie St destined for the Big Sky? - Bobcat2013 - 08-14-2020 04:11 PM

(08-14-2020 04:00 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 03:44 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 03:16 PM)TexanFan Wrote:  No, Tarleton wouldn't.

Truth.

Why did they study only the WAC and Southland then? Why wasn’t the Summit, OVC, or other conference studied?

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5807b451725e257578f60dbf/t/5abfb908f950b77ed242ae4f/1522514194782/Tarleton+State+Study+2018.pdf

You’re trying to tell me your school would rather play Chicago St, Seattle U, California Baptist, and Utah Valley over Stephen F Austin, Lamar, Sam Houston, and Abilene Christian?

Yawn.

You're crazy. You're telling me you wouldn't want the potential to have rivals that your fans and students would be more interested in seeing?


RE: Is Dixie St destined for the Big Sky? - Itinerant Texan - 08-14-2020 04:28 PM

(08-14-2020 04:11 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 04:00 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 03:44 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 03:16 PM)TexanFan Wrote:  No, Tarleton wouldn't.

Truth.

Why did they study only the WAC and Southland then? Why wasn’t the Summit, OVC, or other conference studied?

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5807b451725e257578f60dbf/t/5abfb908f950b77ed242ae4f/1522514194782/Tarleton+State+Study+2018.pdf

You’re trying to tell me your school would rather play Chicago St, Seattle U, California Baptist, and Utah Valley over Stephen F Austin, Lamar, Sam Houston, and Abilene Christian?

Yawn.

You're crazy. You're telling me you wouldn't want the potential to have rivals that your fans and students would be more interested in seeing?

Been there, done that. ACU will always be a rival, but nothing new. We can and will play SLC teams in OOC anytime The WAC broadens Tarleton's horizons more than the SLC ever could. And I don't think we'll have a hsrd time finding a rival or two in the WAC


RE: Is Dixie St destined for the Big Sky? - Bobcat2013 - 08-14-2020 04:44 PM

(08-14-2020 04:28 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 04:11 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 04:00 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 03:44 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 03:16 PM)TexanFan Wrote:  No, Tarleton wouldn't.

Truth.

Why did they study only the WAC and Southland then? Why wasn’t the Summit, OVC, or other conference studied?

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5807b451725e257578f60dbf/t/5abfb908f950b77ed242ae4f/1522514194782/Tarleton+State+Study+2018.pdf

You’re trying to tell me your school would rather play Chicago St, Seattle U, California Baptist, and Utah Valley over Stephen F Austin, Lamar, Sam Houston, and Abilene Christian?

Yawn.

You're crazy. You're telling me you wouldn't want the potential to have rivals that your fans and students would be more interested in seeing?

Been there, done that. ACU will always be a rival, but nothing new. We can and will play SLC teams in OOC anytime The WAC broadens Tarleton's horizons more than the SLC ever could. And I don't think we'll have a hsrd time finding a rival or two in the WAC

Unless youre a big time program geographic proximty and familiarity are pretty essential for a rivalry. Its hard for students and fans to get excited when they've never even heard of most WAC schools and don't have friends and family that attend them.


RE: Is Dixie St destined for the Big Sky? - DoubleRSU - 08-14-2020 05:02 PM

(08-14-2020 04:02 PM)TexanFan Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 03:44 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 03:16 PM)TexanFan Wrote:  No, Tarleton wouldn't.

Truth.

Why did they study only the WAC and Southland then? Why wasn’t the Summit, OVC, or other conference studied?

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5807b451725e257578f60dbf/t/5abfb908f950b77ed242ae4f/1522514194782/Tarleton+State+Study+2018.pdf

You’re trying to tell me your school would rather play Chicago St, Seattle U, California Baptist, and Utah Valley over Stephen F Austin, Lamar, Sam Houston, and Abilene Christian?

Yes as the WAC has a tremendous upside while the Southland is all they will ever be. And who knows what the WAC is thinking, but maybe one, two or three teams you listed comes to the WAC.

Look, I’m glad you guys are in the WAC and I agree the WAC could have upside, but to believe that the WAC was choice #1 is not logical.

The SLC said no and TSU wanted to be D1, so they took option B. That’s fine, nothing wrong with that. Why would a football school choose FCS independence over a regional conference?


RE: Is Dixie St destined for the Big Sky? - Itinerant Texan - 08-14-2020 05:12 PM

(08-14-2020 05:02 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 04:02 PM)TexanFan Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 03:44 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 03:16 PM)TexanFan Wrote:  No, Tarleton wouldn't.

Truth.

Why did they study only the WAC and Southland then? Why wasn’t the Summit, OVC, or other conference studied?

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5807b451725e257578f60dbf/t/5abfb908f950b77ed242ae4f/1522514194782/Tarleton+State+Study+2018.pdf

You’re trying to tell me your school would rather play Chicago St, Seattle U, California Baptist, and Utah Valley over Stephen F Austin, Lamar, Sam Houston, and Abilene Christian?

Yes as the WAC has a tremendous upside while the Southland is all they will ever be. And who knows what the WAC is thinking, but maybe one, two or three teams you listed comes to the WAC.

Look, I’m glad you guys are in the WAC and I agree the WAC could have upside, but to believe that the WAC was choice #1 is not logical.

The SLC said no and TSU wanted to be D1, so they took option B. That’s fine, nothing wrong with that. Why would a football school choose FCS independence over a regional conference?

Not true.

And THAT my friend is the $65,000 question. What if the WAC has plans to expand further into Texas? Where else would they get enough schools to build a football conference? I'll wait...


RE: Is Dixie St destined for the Big Sky? - DoubleRSU - 08-14-2020 05:30 PM

(08-14-2020 05:12 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 05:02 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 04:02 PM)TexanFan Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 03:44 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 03:16 PM)TexanFan Wrote:  No, Tarleton wouldn't.

Truth.

Why did they study only the WAC and Southland then? Why wasn’t the Summit, OVC, or other conference studied?

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5807b451725e257578f60dbf/t/5abfb908f950b77ed242ae4f/1522514194782/Tarleton+State+Study+2018.pdf

You’re trying to tell me your school would rather play Chicago St, Seattle U, California Baptist, and Utah Valley over Stephen F Austin, Lamar, Sam Houston, and Abilene Christian?

Yes as the WAC has a tremendous upside while the Southland is all they will ever be. And who knows what the WAC is thinking, but maybe one, two or three teams you listed comes to the WAC.

Look, I’m glad you guys are in the WAC and I agree the WAC could have upside, but to believe that the WAC was choice #1 is not logical.

The SLC said no and TSU wanted to be D1, so they took option B. That’s fine, nothing wrong with that. Why would a football school choose FCS independence over a regional conference?

Not true.

And THAT my friend is the $65,000 question. What if the WAC has plans to expand further into Texas? Where else would they get enough schools to build a football conference? I'll wait...

So Tarleton never asked the SLC for membership? Why would they put them in the study then?

Maybe the WAC is building a football conference, who is going to be in it? Dixie St, maybe UT-RGV, who else? Why would SFA, SHSU, ACU, and Lamar leave the SLC for a cobbled together conference with a school in Utah? Why wouldn’t they remain in a more compact league with historical rivals???


RE: Is Dixie St destined for the Big Sky? - Itinerant Texan - 08-14-2020 05:41 PM

(08-14-2020 05:30 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 05:12 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 05:02 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 04:02 PM)TexanFan Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 03:44 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  Why did they study only the WAC and Southland then? Why wasn’t the Summit, OVC, or other conference studied?

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5807b451725e257578f60dbf/t/5abfb908f950b77ed242ae4f/1522514194782/Tarleton+State+Study+2018.pdf

You’re trying to tell me your school would rather play Chicago St, Seattle U, California Baptist, and Utah Valley over Stephen F Austin, Lamar, Sam Houston, and Abilene Christian?

Yes as the WAC has a tremendous upside while the Southland is all they will ever be. And who knows what the WAC is thinking, but maybe one, two or three teams you listed comes to the WAC.

Look, I’m glad you guys are in the WAC and I agree the WAC could have upside, but to believe that the WAC was choice #1 is not logical.

The SLC said no and TSU wanted to be D1, so they took option B. That’s fine, nothing wrong with that. Why would a football school choose FCS independence over a regional conference?

Not true.

And THAT my friend is the $65,000 question. What if the WAC has plans to expand further into Texas? Where else would they get enough schools to build a football conference? I'll wait...

So Tarleton never asked the SLC for membership? Why would they put them in the study then?

Maybe the WAC is building a football conference, who is going to be in it? Dixie St, maybe UT-RGV, who else? Why would SFA, SHSU, ACU, and Lamar leave the SLC for a cobbled together conference with a school in Utah? Why wouldn’t they remain in a more compact league with historical rivals???

You don't ask, you get asked. No definitive answer why the two sides chose to go separate ways. Tarleton had a backup plan with more upside, the SLC has.......its Louisiana schools.

More D2 moveups from the LSC and some SLC defectors makes tbe most sense.


RE: Is Dixie St destined for the Big Sky? - Bobcat2013 - 08-14-2020 06:02 PM

(08-14-2020 05:41 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 05:30 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 05:12 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 05:02 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(08-14-2020 04:02 PM)TexanFan Wrote:  Yes as the WAC has a tremendous upside while the Southland is all they will ever be. And who knows what the WAC is thinking, but maybe one, two or three teams you listed comes to the WAC.

Look, I’m glad you guys are in the WAC and I agree the WAC could have upside, but to believe that the WAC was choice #1 is not logical.

The SLC said no and TSU wanted to be D1, so they took option B. That’s fine, nothing wrong with that. Why would a football school choose FCS independence over a regional conference?

Not true.

And THAT my friend is the $65,000 question. What if the WAC has plans to expand further into Texas? Where else would they get enough schools to build a football conference? I'll wait...

So Tarleton never asked the SLC for membership? Why would they put them in the study then?

Maybe the WAC is building a football conference, who is going to be in it? Dixie St, maybe UT-RGV, who else? Why would SFA, SHSU, ACU, and Lamar leave the SLC for a cobbled together conference with a school in Utah? Why wouldn’t they remain in a more compact league with historical rivals???

You don't ask, you get asked. No definitive answer why the two sides chose to go separate ways. Tarleton had a backup plan with more upside, the SLC has.......its Louisiana schools.

More D2 moveups from the LSC and some SLC defectors makes tbe most sense.

You keep saying SLC schools will defect and you keep dodging the question of why any SLC school would leave for a hodgepodge football WAC. Why would they leave? And why wouldn't you want to be in a conference with access to Louisiana talent?