• Sucked most of these years.
• Averaged 14,000 attendance.
• Their last season of 1-AA was in 1999, before transitioning to 1-A as an Independent.
  

• Went 20-26 as an Independent...
• Averaged 14,000 attendance.
• ... Then get invited to the Big East for 2004.
  

• Won the Big East title in 2004, 2007, and 2010
• Won 3 bowl games
• Made it to a BCS Bowl (Fiesta Bowl) in 2010 (lost to Oklahoma)
• Had Top 25 wins over #11 USF and #18 Louisville during these years.
• Beat Notre Dame on NBC national TV in 2009.
• Averaged 38,000-40,000 attendance.
• Achieved a highest ranking of #16 during the 2007 season.
  

• Get invite to the AAC after being left out of realignment.
• Zero winning seasons while in AAC.
• 20-65 overall record while in AAC.
• Athletic department announces $42 million in losses in 2019.
• Leaves the AAC to go independent after 2019 season.
• Averaged 18,000 attendance by 2019.
  

• First and possibly only FBS team in 2020 to cancel entire football season.
  

(08-05-2020 03:01 PM)panama Wrote:  Probably not only....

Give it time...

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(08-05-2020 04:21 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(08-05-2020 03:01 PM)panama Wrote:  Probably not only....

Give it time...

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You may be right, although teams in conferences will likely go along with what their respective conferences decide for the time being. I really don't have a clue what will happen with regard to football this season. I tend to believe it will be a "mess". I just don't see how this will work out well without a national strategy to deal with the pandemic. The football field and locker rooms seem to be the perfect environment for the spread of Covid-19. Rich (mostly white) adults, who can stay safely in their offices, are making these decisions for purely monetary reasons, for often low SES "kids" (mostly black) who will be risking the health and maybe lives of themselves, friends, and family. The millions of dollars, in TV money, will not be going to the players, and only a select few will ever see an NFL paycheck. Actually, older coaches might be most at risk (especially those that are overweight or have other health conditions), but they likely could stop the season now if they joined together.

(08-05-2020 04:33 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  

(08-05-2020 04:21 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(08-05-2020 03:01 PM)panama Wrote:  Probably not only....

Give it time...

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You may be right, although teams in conferences will likely go along with what their respective conferences decide for the time being. I really don't have a clue what will happen with regard to football this season. I tend to believe it will be a "mess". I just don't see how this will work out well without a national strategy to deal with the pandemic. The football field and locker rooms seem to be the perfect environment for the spread of Covid-19. Rich (mostly white) adults, who can stay safely in their offices, are making these decisions for purely monetary reasons, for often low SES "kids" (mostly black) who will be risking the health and maybe lives of themselves, friends, and family. The millions of dollars, in TV money, will not be going to the players, and only a select few will ever see an NFL paycheck. Actually, older coaches might be most at risk (especially those that are overweight or have other health conditions), but they likely could stop the season now if they joined together.

I doubt black or white plays into this...it's just money. Of course everyone has to bring race into it. What will you say when baseball season starts? That's mostly white kids.

(08-05-2020 05:27 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(08-05-2020 04:33 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  

(08-05-2020 04:21 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(08-05-2020 03:01 PM)panama Wrote:  Probably not only....

Give it time...

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You may be right, although teams in conferences will likely go along with what their respective conferences decide for the time being. I really don't have a clue what will happen with regard to football this season. I tend to believe it will be a "mess". I just don't see how this will work out well without a national strategy to deal with the pandemic. The football field and locker rooms seem to be the perfect environment for the spread of Covid-19. Rich (mostly white) adults, who can stay safely in their offices, are making these decisions for purely monetary reasons, for often low SES "kids" (mostly black) who will be risking the health and maybe lives of themselves, friends, and family. The millions of dollars, in TV money, will not be going to the players, and only a select few will ever see an NFL paycheck. Actually, older coaches might be most at risk (especially those that are overweight or have other health conditions), but they likely could stop the season now if they joined together.

I doubt black or white plays into this...it's just money. Of course everyone has to bring race into it. What will you say when baseball season starts? That's mostly white kids.

Baseball is a whole different deal. Doesn't bring in 100's of millions of dollars and players can largely social distance. It's hard to simply ignore race, when most of the administrators making the decisions are white and most of the players are black. Interestingly the historically black college conferences have already cancelled their seasons (someone can correct me if I am wrong on that).

(08-05-2020 04:21 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(08-05-2020 03:01 PM)panama Wrote:  Probably not only....

Give it time...

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You may be right, although teams in conferences will likely go along with what their respective conferences decide for the time being. I really don't have a clue what will happen with regard to football this season. I tend to believe it will be a "mess". I just don't see how this will work out well without a national strategy to deal with the pandemic. The football field and locker rooms seem to be the perfect environment for the spread of Covid-19. Rich (mostly white) adults, who can stay safely in their offices, are making these decisions for purely monetary reasons, for often low SES "kids" (mostly black) who will be risking the health and maybe lives of themselves, friends, and family. The millions of dollars, in TV money, will not be going to the players, and only a select few will ever see an NFL paycheck. Actually, older coaches might be most at risk (especially those that are overweight or have other health conditions), but they likely could stop the season now if they joined together.