(10-30-2020 06:59 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  I would also like to understand why JMU built BFS. We have by far the best G5 stadium in the region, maybe anywhere and the best we can get after 15 years of asking why is that "JMU will consider conference invitations."

Is it so wrong to say "We want 1A and are actually trying to make it happen" with out the trailing self sabotage statements like but we are happy where are... and If1 and If2 and If3...

(10-30-2020 08:12 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  I wish JMU would be more aggressive in their comments about FBS and reframe how they present their football program to one of the best in the country one of the best mid major or non P5 in the country etc rather than an FCS powerhouse. I believe this branding distinction is an important one similar to how UCF and the AAC have tried to brand themselves as different from the rest of the G5.

I wish we could distance ourselves more from The Caa and FCS but I realize that’s a delicate thing too.

I think we know who JMU is- a growing public institution in a growing rural college town. We’re relatively young and have some challenges relative to other Institutions so our growth is gradual and our growth in funding is gradual as well. Philosophically we believe in facilities and a diverse and balanced athletics program that reflects our history and student body.

I’m comfortable with our brand (aside from some the above suggestions as they relate to football) philosophy and identity. I think a bunch of sports fans that align with other schools would be comfortable with it to.

This doesn’t mean that we don’t aspire for bigger things and that the expansion of Bridgeforth was with that long term goal in mind.

(10-29-2020 08:46 AM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  seems relevant to the long term health of our student athletes

https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1321564452999831553

Exclusive: Cardiologists are finding so few heart issues in athletes they are no longer recommending screenings for most COVID positives.

How emerging data will impact protocols like B1G's 21-day policy.

Barry Alvarez: “It’s time to take a serious look"

This chart, from an article published Monday in
@JAMA_current
, outlines new heart screening recs.

Early data says <1% of athletes who were mildly symptomatic are showing heart abnormalities.

Numbers are in single digits “if we’re finding them at all."

(10-30-2020 09:56 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(10-30-2020 08:12 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  I wish JMU would be more aggressive in their comments about FBS and reframe how they present their football program to one of the best in the country one of the best mid major or non P5 in the country etc rather than an FCS powerhouse. I believe this branding distinction is an important one similar to how UCF and the AAC have tried to brand themselves as different from the rest of the G5.

I wish we could distance ourselves more from The Caa and FCS but I realize that’s a delicate thing too.

I think we know who JMU is- a growing public institution in a growing rural college town. We’re relatively young and have some challenges relative to other Institutions so our growth is gradual and our growth in funding is gradual as well. Philosophically we believe in facilities and a diverse and balanced athletics program that reflects our history and student body.

I’m comfortable with our brand (aside from some the above suggestions as they relate to football) philosophy and identity. I think a bunch of sports fans that align with other schools would be comfortable with it to.

This doesn’t mean that we don’t aspire for bigger things and that the expansion of Bridgeforth was with that long term goal in mind.

All true. It would also help having a $1.3B endowment (ala Liberty U.).

From my perspective JMU is following the correct (if conservative) path concerning athletic ambitions. As the school grows and matures new opportunities will present themselves and despite the howls from the JMU fans who “want what they want, and they want it now” crowd, the best days are ahead.

Right now JMU is facing a terrible deficit of over $30M. The pandemic is playing havoc with the base mission -academics- of the university. It may take several years to recover.

As a parting thought, I’d rather see JMU establish a Med School if it was a choice between funding FBS FB and establishing a professional program. But neither are on the table now, or on the far distant horizon.

Support for JMU is needed now more than at any time in the past 30 years. Don’t let ambitions for FBS FB cloud your love for the institution and what it has meant to you and your current station in life.

(10-30-2020 12:24 PM)bjk3047 Wrote:  stick to sprots

(10-30-2020 12:32 PM)jmufbs Wrote:  

(10-30-2020 09:56 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(10-30-2020 08:12 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  I wish JMU would be more aggressive in their comments about FBS and reframe how they present their football program to one of the best in the country one of the best mid major or non P5 in the country etc rather than an FCS powerhouse. I believe this branding distinction is an important one similar to how UCF and the AAC have tried to brand themselves as different from the rest of the G5.

I wish we could distance ourselves more from The Caa and FCS but I realize that’s a delicate thing too.

I think we know who JMU is- a growing public institution in a growing rural college town. We’re relatively young and have some challenges relative to other Institutions so our growth is gradual and our growth in funding is gradual as well. Philosophically we believe in facilities and a diverse and balanced athletics program that reflects our history and student body.

I’m comfortable with our brand (aside from some the above suggestions as they relate to football) philosophy and identity. I think a bunch of sports fans that align with other schools would be comfortable with it to.

This doesn’t mean that we don’t aspire for bigger things and that the expansion of Bridgeforth was with that long term goal in mind.

All true. It would also help having a $1.3B endowment (ala Liberty U.).

From my perspective JMU is following the correct (if conservative) path concerning athletic ambitions. As the school grows and matures new opportunities will present themselves and despite the howls from the JMU fans who “want what they want, and they want it now” crowd, the best days are ahead.

Right now JMU is facing a terrible deficit of over $30M. The pandemic is playing havoc with the base mission -academics- of the university. It may take several years to recover.

As a parting thought, I’d rather see JMU establish a Med School if it was a choice between funding FBS FB and establishing a professional program. But neither are on the table now, or on the far distant horizon.

Support for JMU is needed now more than at any time in the past 30 years. Don’t let ambitions for FBS FB cloud your love for the institution and what it has meant to you and your current station in life.

Longhorn, you mention that FBS is not "on the far distant horizon." ?
curious as to your source. if this is the official word within those who work in the JMU bubble why not make it public and save everyone the speculation and effort?
Assume this is coming from our president ? AD ? Seems just 4/5 months ago ( after covid struck) that our AD was opening the door to thoughts about a new regional ( G5? ) conference.
This statement you made really concerns me if validated and not just conjecture.

(11-09-2020 12:39 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  Obvious good news is the vaccine from Pfizer seems effective. I wonder how the administration of vaccines will change the ability of schools to have fans. If the vaccine is administered to the most vulnerable in society, I would guess there would be very little risk associated with full capacity events.

(11-09-2020 01:00 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 12:39 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  Obvious good news is the vaccine from Pfizer seems effective. I wonder how the administration of vaccines will change the ability of schools to have fans. If the vaccine is administered to the most vulnerable in society, I would guess there would be very little risk associated with full capacity events.

Great sign for starting in the fall season next year, but not sure it changes much until then for colleges. Depending on timing could help MLB and maybe NBA/NHL later in seasons.

(11-09-2020 12:39 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  Obvious good news is the vaccine from Pfizer seems effective. I wonder how the administration of vaccines will change the ability of schools to have fans. If the vaccine is administered to the most vulnerable in society, I would guess there would be very little risk associated with full capacity events.

(11-09-2020 02:51 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 12:39 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  Obvious good news is the vaccine from Pfizer seems effective. I wonder how the administration of vaccines will change the ability of schools to have fans. If the vaccine is administered to the most vulnerable in society, I would guess there would be very little risk associated with full capacity events.

Will have little effect until the end of next year at the earliest.

(11-09-2020 12:39 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  Obvious good news is the vaccine from Pfizer seems effective. I wonder how the administration of vaccines will change the ability of schools to have fans. If the vaccine is administered to the most vulnerable in society, I would guess there would be very little risk associated with full capacity events.

(11-09-2020 01:04 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 01:00 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 12:39 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  Obvious good news is the vaccine from Pfizer seems effective. I wonder how the administration of vaccines will change the ability of schools to have fans. If the vaccine is administered to the most vulnerable in society, I would guess there would be very little risk associated with full capacity events.

Great sign for starting in the fall season next year, but not sure it changes much until then for colleges. Depending on timing could help MLB and maybe NBA/NHL later in seasons.

why not for spring sports and late college basketball season? They are talking about a late november roll out. If our most vulnerable population is vaccinated by mid december, we could have march madness with fans, no?

(11-09-2020 03:58 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 01:04 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 01:00 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  

(11-09-2020 12:39 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  Obvious good news is the vaccine from Pfizer seems effective. I wonder how the administration of vaccines will change the ability of schools to have fans. If the vaccine is administered to the most vulnerable in society, I would guess there would be very little risk associated with full capacity events.

Great sign for starting in the fall season next year, but not sure it changes much until then for colleges. Depending on timing could help MLB and maybe NBA/NHL later in seasons.

why not for spring sports and late college basketball season? They are talking about a late november roll out. If our most vulnerable population is vaccinated by mid december, we could have march madness with fans, no?

Why do you think that the vaccine will be ready in a month? Reasonable time for distribution of first 50 million doses (worldwide) is maybe mid January. Will not be enough to vaccinate everyone who needs it along with all frontline workers. If some of the others are successful soon then maybe we get all of those people vaccinated by mid 2021. The other thing with this vaccine and the Moderna one is that they need to be kept at a ridiculously low temp which makes the distribution harder that a normal vaccine which just needs to be refrigerated.

(10-30-2020 10:48 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  "We’re relatively young and have some challenges relative to other Institutions"

Not specifically asking the poster the said this above and it's a real question.

What challenges does the athletic department at JMU have that peer institutions that have moved to 1A not have? I now our endowments is low but we don't seem to skimp on the athletic budget due to a low endowment.

We already have the facilities, isn't that a major financial challenge resolved?

The football team travels outside "the region" now. Is Maine in the Mid Atlantic, New Hampshire, Albany? These guys are a world apart on facilities.

Is the real reason JMU can't play 1A football due to JMU fully funds women's sports while our peers do not?

We can't play regional G5 football because Madison College graduated female nurses and elementary school teachers in 1965?

I think sports should be funded based on fan support and revenue opportunities, gender or sport should not dictate if other sports can or cannot progress.