(05-18-2020 04:06 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  Luke represents UC really well. But, this interview was clearly aimed at OSU fans and most of the content focused on Luke's (considerable) Buckeye connections.

It was annoying to hear the interviewer refer to UC football as mid-major. Coach Fickell immediately responded by sharing his disdain for the created term P5. But to me, mid-major is a misnomer in college football, especially applied to UC.

Are MAC schools competing at the same level as AAC schools? Results, revenues, expenditures, attendance and TV audience suggest these conferences are miles apart. So is the MAC mid-major? And is FCS football then, "low major"? It's just amazing to watch people covering D1 college sports throw these fabricated terms around so carelessly. I didn't hear Chip Kelly suggesting UC was mid-major after sweeping his UCLA Bruins home and away.

(05-18-2020 04:22 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(05-18-2020 04:06 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  Luke represents UC really well. But, this interview was clearly aimed at OSU fans and most of the content focused on Luke's (considerable) Buckeye connections.

It was annoying to hear the interviewer refer to UC football as mid-major. Coach Fickell immediately responded by sharing his disdain for the created term P5. But to me, mid-major is a misnomer in college football, especially applied to UC.

Are MAC schools competing at the same level as AAC schools? Results, revenues, expenditures, attendance and TV audience suggest these conferences are miles apart. So is the MAC mid-major? And is FCS football then, "low major"? It's just amazing to watch people covering D1 college sports throw these fabricated terms around so carelessly. I didn't hear Chip Kelly suggesting UC was mid-major after sweeping his UCLA Bruins home and away.

To a guy like the Bucknut host, there is no difference between the AAC and MAC. To him it’s OSU, The B10, Notre Dame, The SEC, Texas and Oklahoma, FSU and Clemson, maybe USC... and then everyone else.

I believe Fick means it when he says he wants to build a legacy here. I hope he gets the chance.

(05-18-2020 04:17 PM)natibeast21 Wrote:  I like how Fickell puts it. There’s a 10% top, the rest are in the 90%, and then another 10% (the Ugonns).

If you call UC Mid-Major, then Rutgers, Maryland, Northwestern, Indiana, Purdue, etc. are all in that same boat besides a worse ROI which is nothing to be proud of.

And really IMO that top 10% is about 3-6 teams on any given year so even less.

(05-18-2020 04:50 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(05-18-2020 04:17 PM)natibeast21 Wrote:  I like how Fickell puts it. There’s a 10% top, the rest are in the 90%, and then another 10% (the Ugonns).

If you call UC Mid-Major, then Rutgers, Maryland, Northwestern, Indiana, Purdue, etc. are all in that same boat besides a worse ROI which is nothing to be proud of.

And really IMO that top 10% is about 3-6 teams on any given year so even less.

There's a huge difference in resources.

Purdue pays its head football coach 6.6 million. The assistant pool is 3.53 million. They have a real indoor practice building (not a 50-yard inflatable field).

They averaged 54,000 fans at each home game and 61,000 at each road game. UC averaged 36,000 at home and all but 1 of our road games was under 37,000.

We spend our money more wisely, and we have other competitive advantages (such as our local high school talent). But it's useless to pretend that there isn't a difference between UC and even lower-tier Big Ten programs.

(05-18-2020 08:31 PM)kyucat Wrote:  Let’s be clear. There are only about 10 to 15 schools who have a shot at a national championship. The rest of the schools in the so called P 5 have little or no shot. Here is my list see if you agree or add a team.
Ohio State, Michigan, Clemson, FSU, Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Texas.

(05-18-2020 08:31 PM)kyucat Wrote:  Let’s be clear. There are only about 10 to 15 schools who have a shot at a national championship. The rest of the schools in the so called P 5 have little or no shot. Here is my list see if you agree or add a team.
Ohio State, Michigan, Clemson, FSU, Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Texas.

(05-18-2020 08:31 PM)kyucat Wrote:  Let’s be clear. There are only about 10 to 15 schools who have a shot at a national championship. The rest of the schools in the so called P 5 have little or no shot. Here is my list see if you agree or add a team.
Ohio State, Michigan, Clemson, FSU, Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Texas.

(05-18-2020 09:06 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(05-18-2020 08:31 PM)kyucat Wrote:  Let’s be clear. There are only about 10 to 15 schools who have a shot at a national championship. The rest of the schools in the so called P 5 have little or no shot. Here is my list see if you agree or add a team.
Ohio State, Michigan, Clemson, FSU, Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Texas.

IMO it's fewer teams than this. Since the CFP's inception in 2014, only four teams have won the chip:

2014 Ohio St
2015 Alabama
2016 Clemson
2017 Alabama
2018 Clemson
2019 LSU

I would incude only Ohio St, Clemson, Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Florida, Georgia and Oklahoma. Notre Dame hasn't won a chip since Lou Holtz in 1988 and has only been in the chip game since in 1990 and 2012. Michigan hasn't been in the chip game since the BCS era and last won a natty in 1997. I see Texas and FSU on a downward trend - similar to Nebraska - from which they will never fully recover.

(05-18-2020 08:54 PM)chatcat Wrote:  

(05-18-2020 08:31 PM)kyucat Wrote:  Let’s be clear. There are only about 10 to 15 schools who have a shot at a national championship. The rest of the schools in the so called P 5 have little or no shot. Here is my list see if you agree or add a team.
Ohio State, Michigan, Clemson, FSU, Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Texas.

I would add Penn State and possibly USC.

(05-19-2020 11:44 AM)C1ncy4Life Wrote:  Oregon is an interesting one, especially when considering one of the topics brought up in the interview...name, image, and likeness payments. Nike could push them to become a powerhouse with those rule changes considering they are already at the cusp of being one of those top tier programs.

Of course Nike would have to balance it because they wouldn’t want to alienate their other top schools they have deals with.

(05-19-2020 01:16 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(05-19-2020 11:44 AM)C1ncy4Life Wrote:  Oregon is an interesting one, especially when considering one of the topics brought up in the interview...name, image, and likeness payments. Nike could push them to become a powerhouse with those rule changes considering they are already at the cusp of being one of those top tier programs.

Of course Nike would have to balance it because they wouldn’t want to alienate their other top schools they have deals with.

Since 2000, Oregon has won 10 or more games 11 times, has finished ranked in the top 5 six times, has gone 5-1 combined in the Rose Bowl and Fiesta Bowl, and has played in a national championship game twice. They weren't far off from making the playoff last year either, so they are definitely a team that can win a CFP title in my opinion. I think Oregon doesn't quite get their due as a program because they haven't broken through to win a title yet and have had some down years mixed in. They have only had two losing/non-bowl seasons in that time period though.

(05-18-2020 08:31 PM)kyucat Wrote:  Let’s be clear. There are only about 10 to 15 schools who have a shot at a national championship. The rest of the schools in the so called P 5 have little or no shot. Here is my list see if you agree or add a team.
Ohio State, Michigan, Clemson, FSU, Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Texas.