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RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - ODUCoach - 05-13-2020 08:17 PM
(05-13-2020 07:52 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:(05-13-2020 07:43 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: Well, there is one thing that is totally believable in that poll, and that is that most people are just not very smart.
Seriously, considering we are 49th! in testing, how can anyone really believe Northam has done a good job? Even if you agree that he made all the right moves regarding shutting down the state, shouldn't the testing fact alone give you reason to think that in what is arguably the most important data point that allows us to assess the situation, he has not come through for the citizens of the Commonwealth?
Who controls access to testing?
I don't know, but 48 other Governors have figured out how to do a better job than our Doctor.
To be honest, though, if the states weren't run by career politicians, I think the entire country would be in better shape with regards to testing. I mean, look at how quickly the NBA was able to test. MLB just did a big testing push. They have real leaders who aren't worried about government bureaucracy.
RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - Gilesfan - 05-13-2020 08:28 PM
I ask bc I dont know. And if he does control that, he should be knocked.
But being a democrat (not trying to make it political), Ive heard the Feds have played hardball with some. I honestly do not know if thats true or if it even affects number of tests.
RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - Monarchblue - 05-13-2020 10:43 PM
(05-13-2020 07:43 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: Well, there is one thing that is totally believable in that poll, and that is that most people are just not very smart.Add the fact that over 60% of our deaths occurred in assisted living facilities, and the Guv just got around to addressing that issue today to the list of bad governance too.
Seriously, considering we are 49th! in testing, how can anyone really believe Northam has done a good job? Even if you agree that he made all the right moves regarding shutting down the state, shouldn't the testing fact alone give you reason to think that in what is arguably the most important data point that allows us to assess the situation, he has not come through for the citizens of the Commonwealth?
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RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - Monarchblue - 05-13-2020 10:49 PM
(05-13-2020 07:45 PM)Grommet Wrote: I think it's plausible that both smudge and MB have both, consciously or otherwise, created an echo chamber amongst their friends. I'd also be willing to wager, that maybe aside from Token, MB's liberal friends aren't all that liberal and neither are smudge's conservative friends all that conservative.That is a fair consideration, but these people are mostly not my friends, just co-workers and neighbors (I do live in an area that is fairly conservative), but a few of my co-workers that I referenced are full fledged Bernie supporters.
NTTAWWT.
I think Smudge is closer to identifying the difference, which is where we live. Me in VB and he/she in NOVA. I imagine NOVA has a very different take on all of this than most of the rest of the state. They have a ton more cases, a ton of govt workers who are getting paid regardless, and frankly enjoying their time off to an extent, and they are a much more left leaning bunch.
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RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - 757ODU - 05-14-2020 06:52 AM
The LA County extension for the Stay At Home order is unbelievable. As I see this happen, I wonder to myself how educated the people making these decisions really are. These decisions seem to made on the idea that a vaccine is right around the corner. Somebody fact-check me on this, but I don't believe that in the history of our country we have been able to mass produce a viable vaccine in less than 4 years. So now, what is being reported, is that we are going have 100 million doses to disperse throughout the country in November!? Are people out of their ******* minds???
RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - Monarchblue - 05-14-2020 09:35 AM
More glowing reviews for our highly trusted Guv.
The Atlantic: How Virginia Juked Its COVID-19 Statistics.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/05/covid-19-tests-combine-virginia/611620/?utm_source=feed
RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - Gilesfan - 05-14-2020 11:06 AM
(05-14-2020 06:52 AM)757ODU Wrote: The LA County extension for the Stay At Home order is unbelievable. As I see this happen, I wonder to myself how educated the people making these decisions really are. These decisions seem to made on the idea that a vaccine is right around the corner. Somebody fact-check me on this, but I don't believe that in the history of our country we have been able to mass produce a viable vaccine in less than 4 years. So now, what is being reported, is that we are going have 100 million doses to disperse throughout the country in November!? Are people out of their ******* minds???
Obviously not a scientist and I've read that 4 years (mumps) is the record. (and i have no clue if November is possible) Having said that, ways that they are speeding up the process:
There are more scientists working on this than ever before.
This virus does not mutate quickly (or is not believed to do so quickly)
Corona viruses have been studied for years giving them a bit of a head start
Technology has evolved and thus, the speed at which scientists can sequence the genetic code.
The patch (vaccine), as opposed to a shot, is easy to produce.
There is usually an outline of events that have to happen in sequential order (because govt..obviously works slow), but in this case they are doing some steps concurrently.
2020 seems very unlikely but 2021 seems plausible.
RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - ODUCoach - 05-14-2020 02:41 PM
Apparently, there are a few people who aren't exactly approving of Northam's dictatorial ways.
https://www.kerrydougherty.com/allposts/2020/5/13/who-has-ralph-northams-ear?fbclid=IwAR1uJ24eSX8b9uCkEG6eic7w9YB-x4oj7MkujhZq7vj_nTN1wgh4XkGsbvA
RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - mturn017 - 05-14-2020 03:41 PM
(05-14-2020 02:41 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: Apparently, there are a few people who aren't exactly approving of Northam's dictatorial ways.
https://www.kerrydougherty.com/allposts/2020/5/13/who-has-ralph-northams-ear?fbclid=IwAR1uJ24eSX8b9uCkEG6eic7w9YB-x4oj7MkujhZq7vj_nTN1wgh4XkGsbvA
A lot of it doesn't really make sense. I understand a slow rollout but some things just don't make sense.
RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - ODUCoach - 05-14-2020 03:52 PM
I really don't understand why Dyer just doesn't say, "Hey, the beaches are going to be open." I mean, does the Governor really have the authority over the beaches? What's he going to do, send in the National Guard?
RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - Monarchblue - 05-14-2020 03:59 PM
(05-14-2020 03:52 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: I really don't understand why Dyer just doesn't say, "Hey, the beaches are going to be open." I mean, does the Governor really have the authority over the beaches? What's he going to do, send in the National Guard?Really weak leadership on the VB Council right now. The weakest I've seen in my lifetime, I think. And I felt that way before COVID.
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RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - Gilesfan - 05-14-2020 05:50 PM
(05-14-2020 03:52 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: I really don't understand why Dyer just doesn't say, "Hey, the beaches are going to be open." I mean, does the Governor really have the authority over the beaches? What's he going to do, send in the National Guard?
I would imagine its a major no no for a mayor to go against the governor and break the law.
RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - AdoptedMonarch - 05-14-2020 06:00 PM
(05-14-2020 05:50 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:(05-14-2020 03:52 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: I really don't understand why Dyer just doesn't say, "Hey, the beaches are going to be open." I mean, does the Governor really have the authority over the beaches? What's he going to do, send in the National Guard?
I would imagine its a major no no for a mayor to go against the governor and break the law.
Is the governor the law?
RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - AdoptedMonarch - 05-14-2020 06:03 PM
(05-14-2020 06:00 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:(05-14-2020 05:50 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:(05-14-2020 03:52 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: I really don't understand why Dyer just doesn't say, "Hey, the beaches are going to be open." I mean, does the Governor really have the authority over the beaches? What's he going to do, send in the National Guard?
I would imagine its a major no no for a mayor to go against the governor and break the law.
Is the governor the law?
If the governor, instead of our moronic president, had told us to drink bleach, would we be obliged to do so?
RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - ODUCoach - 05-14-2020 06:39 PM
(05-14-2020 06:00 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:(05-14-2020 05:50 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:(05-14-2020 03:52 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: I really don't understand why Dyer just doesn't say, "Hey, the beaches are going to be open." I mean, does the Governor really have the authority over the beaches? What's he going to do, send in the National Guard?
I would imagine its a major no no for a mayor to go against the governor and break the law.
Is the governor the law?
It’s a really interesting question to me. Who has the authority to open and close beaches in VB? What recourse does the Governor have? In PA, the Governor is threatening to withhold funding from the counties if they defy his orders. Is that even legal? I really don’t know. Would Northam really do that to the most populous city in Virginia? I doubt it. So, what could he do?
RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - Gilesfan - 05-14-2020 07:53 PM
(05-14-2020 06:00 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:(05-14-2020 05:50 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:(05-14-2020 03:52 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: I really don't understand why Dyer just doesn't say, "Hey, the beaches are going to be open." I mean, does the Governor really have the authority over the beaches? What's he going to do, send in the National Guard?
I would imagine its a major no no for a mayor to go against the governor and break the law.
Is the governor the law?
Well, yeah?
RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - Gilesfan - 05-14-2020 07:54 PM
(05-14-2020 06:03 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:(05-14-2020 06:00 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:(05-14-2020 05:50 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:(05-14-2020 03:52 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: I really don't understand why Dyer just doesn't say, "Hey, the beaches are going to be open." I mean, does the Governor really have the authority over the beaches? What's he going to do, send in the National Guard?
I would imagine its a major no no for a mayor to go against the governor and break the law.
Is the governor the law?
If the governor, instead of our moronic president, had told us to drink bleach, would we be obliged to do so?
What does the power to open and close public property have tp do with making you drink bleach?
RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - AdoptedMonarch - 05-14-2020 08:01 PM
(05-14-2020 07:54 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:(05-14-2020 06:03 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:(05-14-2020 06:00 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:(05-14-2020 05:50 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:(05-14-2020 03:52 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: I really don't understand why Dyer just doesn't say, "Hey, the beaches are going to be open." I mean, does the Governor really have the authority over the beaches? What's he going to do, send in the National Guard?
I would imagine its a major no no for a mayor to go against the governor and break the law.
Is the governor the law?
If the governor, instead of our moronic president, had told us to drink bleach, would we be obliged to do so?
What does the power to open and close public property have tp do with making you drink bleach?
Or have anything to do with compelled mask wearing? Or have anything to do with enforcing social distancing? Or have anything to do with selecting which businesses get to operate and which don't?
You may be a fan of big brother. I'm not.
RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - monarx - 05-14-2020 09:42 PM
Laws should be passed by the legislative branch, not by authoritarian decree. Too much power in one persons hands.
RE: OT- Corona Virus- Where do we go from here? - Prideofalion - 05-14-2020 10:39 PM
(05-14-2020 08:01 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:(05-14-2020 07:54 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:(05-14-2020 06:03 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:(05-14-2020 06:00 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:(05-14-2020 05:50 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: I would imagine its a major no no for a mayor to go against the governor and break the law.
Is the governor the law?
If the governor, instead of our moronic president, had told us to drink bleach, would we be obliged to do so?
What does the power to open and close public property have tp do with making you drink bleach?
Or have anything to do with compelled mask wearing? Or have anything to do with enforcing social distancing? Or have anything to do with selecting which businesses get to operate and which don't?
You may be a fan of big brother. I'm not.
Not sure why people want their rights taken away... will never understand it. Welcome to socialism.