(01-07-2020 11:57 AM)stever20 Wrote:  https://espnpressroom.com/us/press-releases/2020/01/espn-presents-the-college-football-playoff-national-championship-through-cutting-edge-technology/

what's funny is the one that I wish was on an actual channel and not on ESPN 3 is the Ref Cast. how cool does this sound:
Refcast on ESPN App
A Bristol-based production where John Parry (former NFL referee), Matt Austin (former SEC referee) and Judson Howard (Pac-12 replay official) provide reaction and commentary from a referee’s perspective. An additional referee may be added to the presentation.

(01-07-2020 12:02 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Why is the FCS championship game on ABC on a Saturday and the FBS "championship" is on ESPN on a Monday?

(01-07-2020 12:02 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Why is the FCS championship game on ABC on a Saturday and the FBS "championship" is on ESPN on a Monday?

(01-07-2020 12:16 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 12:02 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Why is the FCS championship game on ABC on a Saturday and the FBS "championship" is on ESPN on a Monday?

I plan to tune in to the FCS title game and watch until NDST goes up by 10 or more points. Which probably should be late first, early second quarter.

Anyone who says that expanded playoffs prevents a few programs from having a chokehold on the top spots doesn't follow FCS.

(01-07-2020 12:16 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 12:02 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Why is the FCS championship game on ABC on a Saturday and the FBS "championship" is on ESPN on a Monday?

I plan to tune in to the FCS title game and watch until NDST goes up by 10 or more points. Which probably should be late first, early second quarter.

Anyone who says that expanded playoffs prevents a few programs from having a chokehold on the top spots doesn't follow FCS.

(01-07-2020 01:42 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 12:16 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 12:02 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Why is the FCS championship game on ABC on a Saturday and the FBS "championship" is on ESPN on a Monday?

I plan to tune in to the FCS title game and watch until NDST goes up by 10 or more points. Which probably should be late first, early second quarter.

Anyone who says that expanded playoffs prevents a few programs from having a chokehold on the top spots doesn't follow FCS.

But they have an actual playoff in FCS, like pretty much every sport other than FBS college football.

(01-07-2020 02:08 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 01:42 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 12:16 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 12:02 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Why is the FCS championship game on ABC on a Saturday and the FBS "championship" is on ESPN on a Monday?

I plan to tune in to the FCS title game and watch until NDST goes up by 10 or more points. Which probably should be late first, early second quarter.

Anyone who says that expanded playoffs prevents a few programs from having a chokehold on the top spots doesn't follow FCS.

But they have an actual playoff in FCS, like pretty much every sport other than FBS college football.

But what's the point? The CFP seems to do just as good a job as picking the 'best team' as any 24-team playoff could. So would it just be so some more teams could market themselves as having made the playoffs?

(01-07-2020 12:01 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 11:57 AM)stever20 Wrote:  https://espnpressroom.com/us/press-releases/2020/01/espn-presents-the-college-football-playoff-national-championship-through-cutting-edge-technology/

what's funny is the one that I wish was on an actual channel and not on ESPN 3 is the Ref Cast. how cool does this sound:
Refcast on ESPN App
A Bristol-based production where John Parry (former NFL referee), Matt Austin (former SEC referee) and Judson Howard (Pac-12 replay official) provide reaction and commentary from a referee’s perspective. An additional referee may be added to the presentation.

Well you should be able to pull that up on your smart TV, right?

In any event, ESPN always has like 6 different channels broadcasting the title game from various angles. They are very cool in theory, but I find myself usually just watching the regular telecast, LOL.

(01-07-2020 01:42 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 12:16 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 12:02 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Why is the FCS championship game on ABC on a Saturday and the FBS "championship" is on ESPN on a Monday?

I plan to tune in to the FCS title game and watch until NDST goes up by 10 or more points. Which probably should be late first, early second quarter.

Anyone who says that expanded playoffs prevents a few programs from having a chokehold on the top spots doesn't follow FCS.

But they have an actual playoff in FCS, like pretty much every sport other than FBS college football.

(01-07-2020 02:58 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 01:42 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 12:16 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 12:02 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Why is the FCS championship game on ABC on a Saturday and the FBS "championship" is on ESPN on a Monday?

I plan to tune in to the FCS title game and watch until NDST goes up by 10 or more points. Which probably should be late first, early second quarter.

Anyone who says that expanded playoffs prevents a few programs from having a chokehold on the top spots doesn't follow FCS.

But they have an actual playoff in FCS, like pretty much every sport other than FBS college football.

Membership in FBS is strictly voluntary, and every program that chooses to be in FBS rather than FCS participates in FBS with complete awareness that the NCAA has ceded the FBS postseason to the CFP and the bowl games, as part of an unspoken agreement that the big boys will stay in the NCAA, and put up with the NCAA's BS in all other sports, as long as they can run the football postseason.

(01-07-2020 02:51 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 12:01 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 11:57 AM)stever20 Wrote:  https://espnpressroom.com/us/press-releases/2020/01/espn-presents-the-college-football-playoff-national-championship-through-cutting-edge-technology/

what's funny is the one that I wish was on an actual channel and not on ESPN 3 is the Ref Cast. how cool does this sound:
Refcast on ESPN App
A Bristol-based production where John Parry (former NFL referee), Matt Austin (former SEC referee) and Judson Howard (Pac-12 replay official) provide reaction and commentary from a referee’s perspective. An additional referee may be added to the presentation.

Well you should be able to pull that up on your smart TV, right?

In any event, ESPN always has like 6 different channels broadcasting the title game from various angles. They are very cool in theory, but I find myself usually just watching the regular telecast, LOL.

I used to watch Coach's Film room when they used college coaches. Now I watch the mega with the stats and two views

(01-07-2020 03:00 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 02:58 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 01:42 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 12:16 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 12:02 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Why is the FCS championship game on ABC on a Saturday and the FBS "championship" is on ESPN on a Monday?

I plan to tune in to the FCS title game and watch until NDST goes up by 10 or more points. Which probably should be late first, early second quarter.

Anyone who says that expanded playoffs prevents a few programs from having a chokehold on the top spots doesn't follow FCS.

But they have an actual playoff in FCS, like pretty much every sport other than FBS college football.

Membership in FBS is strictly voluntary, and every program that chooses to be in FBS rather than FCS participates in FBS with complete awareness that the NCAA has ceded the FBS postseason to the CFP and the bowl games, as part of an unspoken agreement that the big boys will stay in the NCAA, and put up with the NCAA's BS in all other sports, as long as they can run the football postseason.

That doesn't mean it makes sense.

(01-07-2020 03:17 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 03:00 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 02:58 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 01:42 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 12:16 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  I plan to tune in to the FCS title game and watch until NDST goes up by 10 or more points. Which probably should be late first, early second quarter.

Anyone who says that expanded playoffs prevents a few programs from having a chokehold on the top spots doesn't follow FCS.

But they have an actual playoff in FCS, like pretty much every sport other than FBS college football.

Membership in FBS is strictly voluntary, and every program that chooses to be in FBS rather than FCS participates in FBS with complete awareness that the NCAA has ceded the FBS postseason to the CFP and the bowl games, as part of an unspoken agreement that the big boys will stay in the NCAA, and put up with the NCAA's BS in all other sports, as long as they can run the football postseason.

That doesn't mean it makes sense.

It makes sense that the programs with influence don't want the NCAA siphoning the money out of the football postseason like the NCAA siphons the money out of the basketball postseason.

It's a choice between
(a) playing football in the part of Division I that has a 24-team playoff, or
(b) playing football in the part of Division I that includes programs like Ohio State and Alabama, knowing that the postseason structure is determined by a consensus among programs like Ohio State and Alabama.

I like the idea of a 24-team playoff, but it's not going to happen in FBS in my lifetime if ever.

(01-07-2020 03:17 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 03:00 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 02:58 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 01:42 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 12:16 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  I plan to tune in to the FCS title game and watch until NDST goes up by 10 or more points. Which probably should be late first, early second quarter.

Anyone who says that expanded playoffs prevents a few programs from having a chokehold on the top spots doesn't follow FCS.

But they have an actual playoff in FCS, like pretty much every sport other than FBS college football.

Membership in FBS is strictly voluntary, and every program that chooses to be in FBS rather than FCS participates in FBS with complete awareness that the NCAA has ceded the FBS postseason to the CFP and the bowl games, as part of an unspoken agreement that the big boys will stay in the NCAA, and put up with the NCAA's BS in all other sports, as long as they can run the football postseason.

That doesn't mean it makes sense.

It makes sense that the programs with influence don't want the NCAA siphoning the money out of the football postseason like the NCAA siphons the money out of the basketball postseason.

It's a choice between
(a) playing football in the part of Division I that has a 24-team playoff, or
(b) playing football in the part of Division I that includes programs like Ohio State and Alabama, knowing that the postseason structure is determined by a consensus among programs like Ohio State and Alabama.

I like the idea of a 24-team playoff, but it's not going to happen in FBS in my lifetime if ever.

(01-07-2020 03:25 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 03:17 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 03:00 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 02:58 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 01:42 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  But they have an actual playoff in FCS, like pretty much every sport other than FBS college football.

Membership in FBS is strictly voluntary, and every program that chooses to be in FBS rather than FCS participates in FBS with complete awareness that the NCAA has ceded the FBS postseason to the CFP and the bowl games, as part of an unspoken agreement that the big boys will stay in the NCAA, and put up with the NCAA's BS in all other sports, as long as they can run the football postseason.

That doesn't mean it makes sense.

It makes sense that the programs with influence don't want the NCAA siphoning the money out of the football postseason like the NCAA siphons the money out of the basketball postseason.

It's a choice between
(a) playing football in the part of Division I that has a 24-team playoff, or
(b) playing football in the part of Division I that includes programs like Ohio State and Alabama, knowing that the postseason structure is determined by a consensus among programs like Ohio State and Alabama.

I like the idea of a 24-team playoff, but it's not going to happen in FBS in my lifetime if ever.

8 or 16 could at least be considered a playoff. 4 is like an oligarchy.

(01-07-2020 03:45 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 03:25 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 03:17 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 03:00 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 02:58 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Membership in FBS is strictly voluntary, and every program that chooses to be in FBS rather than FCS participates in FBS with complete awareness that the NCAA has ceded the FBS postseason to the CFP and the bowl games, as part of an unspoken agreement that the big boys will stay in the NCAA, and put up with the NCAA's BS in all other sports, as long as they can run the football postseason.

That doesn't mean it makes sense.

It makes sense that the programs with influence don't want the NCAA siphoning the money out of the football postseason like the NCAA siphons the money out of the basketball postseason.

It's a choice between
(a) playing football in the part of Division I that has a 24-team playoff, or
(b) playing football in the part of Division I that includes programs like Ohio State and Alabama, knowing that the postseason structure is determined by a consensus among programs like Ohio State and Alabama.

I like the idea of a 24-team playoff, but it's not going to happen in FBS in my lifetime if ever.

8 or 16 could at least be considered a playoff. 4 is like an oligarchy.

8 is a very slight improvement. The only thing it really gets us is 4 more games that would hopefully be entertaining.

An 8-team playoff will still leave out teams that are very capable of winning a playoff, and leave them out for no reason other than they have more than one loss and it's a small playoff. Example: Alabama was #12 in the final CFP ranking this season and wouldn't have even been in an 8-team playoff. Are you sure that Oklahoma was better than Alabama? Are you sure that #4 Oklahoma was more deserving than #12 Alabama for any reason other than OU had 1 loss and played in a different conference?

What do we want a larger playoff for? Because it's more fun, or because we want it to be a test of the best teams? A real test would include more than 2 or 3 at-large teams.

(01-07-2020 04:29 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  16 devalues the regular season. 8 with autobids maintains the importance of the regular season.