(01-14-2020 03:56 PM)odufansam Wrote:  We may take a step back in recruiting rankings, but eventually build up a team that can regularly beat powerhouses like William & Mary.

(01-14-2020 08:32 PM)odufansam Wrote:  William & Mary is definitely a solid team this year. They have been better than ODU almost every season JJ has been coach. Considering admissions restrictions and budget limitations, this should be the exception and not the rule.

(01-14-2020 06:48 PM)Prideofalion Wrote:  

(01-14-2020 03:56 PM)odufansam Wrote:  We may take a step back in recruiting rankings, but eventually build up a team that can regularly beat powerhouses like William & Mary.

Y’all keep discrediting William and Mary. In case you haven’t noticed, they are in first place in the CAA and have multiple pro prospects in their front court. Not only this, they lost transfers this off season to UNC and UCF. They have a freshman guard on this years team who was highly sought after from Europe as well. They have been recruiting at a high level. This isn’t Jeff Capel's William and Mary.

(01-14-2020 09:02 PM)JJMonarch Wrote:  William and Mary is probably the best team in the Commonwealth this season.

(01-14-2020 09:55 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(01-14-2020 09:02 PM)JJMonarch Wrote:  William and Mary is probably the best team in the Commonwealth this season.

Easy there. For starters, Liberty is better than them. UVA and Tech would likely wipe the floor with them, and Richmond and VCU are AT LEAST on par with them.

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(01-14-2020 04:08 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  

(01-13-2020 11:57 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  All of this rhetoric about guys not playing as freshmen under Jeff because they weren't good enough is just hard to believe. If ODU was putting 5 superstars on the court I could see it. As pathetic as ODU looked in their last game, Hunter wasn't substituted in before the last minute of the game. It is a hard sell to simply state that he wasn't good enough to play when nearly everyone else was positively awful.

Apparently Fields has grown significantly taller since he is now playing defense "at this level". Actually Radford may well be above us at this point. You just can't make this stuff up.

EDIT: One of ODU's better defensive guards - 5'-9" Duffy Samuels. I would much rather have a smaller point guard than have a smaller center and/or power forward like ODU has today. As long as the point guard can stay in front of his opponent he can force the outside shot. Being too short at center and power forward means that they all too often can't stop the opponent from taking the close in shot. Big difference.

Just for accuracy, Hunter played a few minutes midway through the second half.

(01-14-2020 09:55 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(01-14-2020 09:02 PM)JJMonarch Wrote:  William and Mary is probably the best team in the Commonwealth this season.

Easy there. For starters, Liberty is better than them. UVA and Tech would likely wipe the floor with them, and Richmond and VCU are AT LEAST on par with them.

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(01-15-2020 08:25 AM)Prideofalion Wrote:  Maybe if the coaches just knew ahead of time that Green and Oliver were going to miss every shot we just wouldn’t of played them at all...

(01-14-2020 10:58 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(01-14-2020 04:08 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  

(01-13-2020 11:57 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  All of this rhetoric about guys not playing as freshmen under Jeff because they weren't good enough is just hard to believe. If ODU was putting 5 superstars on the court I could see it. As pathetic as ODU looked in their last game, Hunter wasn't substituted in before the last minute of the game. It is a hard sell to simply state that he wasn't good enough to play when nearly everyone else was positively awful.

Apparently Fields has grown significantly taller since he is now playing defense "at this level". Actually Radford may well be above us at this point. You just can't make this stuff up.

EDIT: One of ODU's better defensive guards - 5'-9" Duffy Samuels. I would much rather have a smaller point guard than have a smaller center and/or power forward like ODU has today. As long as the point guard can stay in front of his opponent he can force the outside shot. Being too short at center and power forward means that they all too often can't stop the opponent from taking the close in shot. Big difference.

Just for accuracy, Hunter played a few minutes midway through the second half.

Thanks. Yes, I see now that he played a total of 3 minutes. I'm sure he could have played more and not had any worse affect on the outcome than several others that played 20+ minutes. Oliver for example played 21 minutes, had 1 rebound and nothing else offensively speaking to show for his time. Green played nearly the whole game (36 minutes), had 1 assist, 2 points (1 for 12 shooting), and 5 rebounds. Between the two of them that's 57 minutes (28.5%) of the 200 minutes total the team played and producing a paltry 1 assist, 2 points, and 6 rebounds.

(01-14-2020 03:56 PM)odufansam Wrote:  We may take a step back in recruiting rankings, but eventually build up a team that can regularly beat powerhouses likeJMU.

(01-15-2020 08:25 AM)Prideofalion Wrote:  Maybe if the coaches just knew ahead of time that Green and Oliver were going to miss every shot we just wouldn’t of played them at all...

(01-14-2020 08:33 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(01-14-2020 08:32 PM)odufansam Wrote:  William & Mary is definitely a solid team this year. They have been better than ODU almost every season JJ has been coach. Considering admissions restrictions and budget limitations, this should be the exception and not the rule.

No, W&M has not been better almost every year.

(01-14-2020 09:55 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(01-14-2020 09:02 PM)JJMonarch Wrote:  William and Mary is probably the best team in the Commonwealth this season.

Easy there. For starters, Liberty is better than them. UVA and Tech would likely wipe the floor with them, and Richmond and VCU are AT LEAST on par with them.

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(01-15-2020 11:58 AM)odufansam Wrote:  

(01-14-2020 08:33 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(01-14-2020 08:32 PM)odufansam Wrote:  William & Mary is definitely a solid team this year. They have been better than ODU almost every season JJ has been coach. Considering admissions restrictions and budget limitations, this should be the exception and not the rule.

No, W&M has not been better almost every year.

JJ's record against W&M is 2-5.

2019-2020: L
2018-2019: W
2017-2018: L
2016-2017: L
2015-2016: L
2014-2015: W
2013-2014: L

I'll stand by my statement.

(01-15-2020 12:49 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 11:58 AM)odufansam Wrote:  

(01-14-2020 08:33 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(01-14-2020 08:32 PM)odufansam Wrote:  William & Mary is definitely a solid team this year. They have been better than ODU almost every season JJ has been coach. Considering admissions restrictions and budget limitations, this should be the exception and not the rule.

No, W&M has not been better almost every year.

JJ's record against W&M is 2-5.

2019-2020: L
2018-2019: W
2017-2018: L
2016-2017: L
2015-2016: L
2014-2015: W
2013-2014: L

I'll stand by my statement.

I would go back and post what the rankings were for each team (Ken Pom for accuracy sake). But, it's no use if you believe 1 game means more than 30.