(12-29-2019 12:08 AM)pesik Wrote:  Just seeing how this season is going and who is shinning, this has to be encouraging for the future of the league

--almost non of the best performing players are seniors -- the majority of players we are excited about as fans are sophomores or younger.

--our best 3 teams are extremely young, all 3 could be in for multi year runs depending on the draft

--despite not being as top heavy as other years, this has been (is) one of our best years since inception, and not counting mass exodus from a coach firing and surprise draft entries.. we look to be way better next year

-- Cincy and temple are the only 2 you can make an argument that they will be worse next year (not counting surprises)..temple is simply because they have no one touted coming in, a touted transfer/recruit or 2 and theyd look better...and cincy is completely up in the air, they are the onnly only senior heavy aac team, but they have a good recruiting class as is and it isnt even finished yet

*Context for the not so basketball savy folks here: teams consist of 13 players, and most of us run a 8-10 player rotation of notable players

WICHITA: top 25-ish
total notable seniors: 1
note: All guards are true sophomores or younger
Draft threats: none
Likely Transfers Threats: none ATM
Notable incoming players: Has a 4star Wing committed

MEMPHIS: top 15-ish
total notable seniors: none
note: starting all freshmen- most of the backups are sophmores
Draft threats: Precious (100% gone), all guards (very low)
Likely Transfers Threats: none ATM
Notable incoming players : former top 150 4* big sitting out on transfer rules , still has 3 schollies to give, and finalist for numerous elite recruits - guaranteed to land a big fish

HOUSTON:top 25-ish
total notable seniors: 1
note: all top scorers are soph or younger
Draft threats: Grimes (mid to high), Dejon/Nate (Low)
Likely Transfers Threats: non atm but either grimes enters the draft or someone transfers (scholly limit)
Notable incoming players: 3 top 150 4*, transfer sharp shooter sitting, a former 150 fresh red-shirting

SMU: top 50-ish
total notable seniors: none
note: zero seniors on roster-- could potentially lose coach
Draft threats: isaha mike (low)
Likely Transfers Threats: non ATM - losing coach could trigger transfers
Notable incoming players : high scoring cal transfer sitting out

CINCINNATI : top 50-ish
total notable seniors: 5
note: was expected to take a HUGE hit preseason but best performing players so far are juniors (vogt & williams)
Draft threats: Kieth Williams (low)
Likely Transfers Threats: Zach Harvey (former top 50 recruit)
Notable incoming players : 3 top 150 recruits, with at least 2 schollys left, likely 4 after transfers

TEMPLE: Top 50-ish
total notable seniors: 3
note: best player is only a junior (NPL) but still likely to take a hit
Draft threats: NPL (very low)
Likely Transfers Threats: none atm
Notable incoming players : none that are on paper game changing , but a transfer and 2 freshmen

South Florida: top 75-ish (when healthy)
total notable seniors: 1
note: 1st team all-conference calibur Yetna returns next season
Draft threats: none
Likely Transfers Threats: None
Notable incoming players : A Top 70 4star, a 4star true freshmen iowa state transfer (transferred before the season), an unranked center that has a ton of high major offers

UCF: top 100-ish
total notable seniors: 1 now, though it was expected to be 3 preseason (2 have had minutes reduced)
note: best player and every key player but dazon is returning
Draft threats: Collin Smith (Mid to low)
Likely Transfers Threats: i dont know who but someone/s is going to transfer a lot of players expected to get minutes arent
Notable incoming players : high 3 star fresh, multiple schollys left

TULSA: top 100-ish
total notable seniors: 2
note: 5 of the top 6 scorers return - could lose coach
Draft threats: non
Likely Transfers Threats: none atm, but could lose coach triggering transfers
Notable incoming players : 2 touted p5 transfers, with 2 schollys left

TULANE : top 150-ish
total notable seniors: 2
note: entire roster is 1st year players, even seniors
Draft threats: KJ Lawson (Mid to High) -should be low but hunter noted he expects him to go pro (but insinuated him dominating as part of the reason, which isnt happening)
Likely Transfers Threats: the 3-4 players getting no minutes
Notable incoming players : hunter has stated tulane will got after grad transfers again this offseason, its not transfer season yet

ECU: 270-ish
total notable seniors: 0
note: no seniors on roster
Draft threats: none
Likely Transfers Threats: coach likely to implode roster again
Notable incoming players : none with no schollies, but after coach implodes roster will target players

(12-29-2019 08:10 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(12-29-2019 12:08 AM)pesik Wrote:  Just seeing how this season is going and who is shinning, this has to be encouraging for the future of the league

--almost non of the best performing players are seniors -- the majority of players we are excited about as fans are sophomores or younger.

--our best 3 teams are extremely young, all 3 could be in for multi year runs depending on the draft

--despite not being as top heavy as other years, this has been (is) one of our best years since inception, and not counting mass exodus from a coach firing and surprise draft entries.. we look to be way better next year

-- Cincy and temple are the only 2 you can make an argument that they will be worse next year (not counting surprises)..temple is simply because they have no one touted coming in, a touted transfer/recruit or 2 and theyd look better...and cincy is completely up in the air, they are the onnly only senior heavy aac team, but they have a good recruiting class as is and it isnt even finished yet

*Context for the not so basketball savy folks here: teams consist of 13 players, and most of us run a 8-10 player rotation of notable players

WICHITA: top 25-ish
total notable seniors: 1
note: All guards are true sophomores or younger
Draft threats: none
Likely Transfers Threats: none ATM
Notable incoming players: Has a 4star Wing committed

MEMPHIS: top 15-ish
total notable seniors: none
note: starting all freshmen- most of the backups are sophmores
Draft threats: Precious (100% gone), all guards (very low)
Likely Transfers Threats: none ATM
Notable incoming players : former top 150 4* big sitting out on transfer rules , still has 3 schollies to give, and finalist for numerous elite recruits - guaranteed to land a big fish

HOUSTON:top 25-ish
total notable seniors: 1
note: all top scorers are soph or younger
Draft threats: Grimes (mid to high), Dejon/Nate (Low)
Likely Transfers Threats: non atm but either grimes enters the draft or someone transfers (scholly limit)
Notable incoming players: 3 top 150 4*, transfer sharp shooter sitting, a former 150 fresh red-shirting

SMU: top 50-ish
total notable seniors: none
note: zero seniors on roster-- could potentially lose coach
Draft threats: isaha mike (low)
Likely Transfers Threats: non ATM - losing coach could trigger transfers
Notable incoming players : high scoring cal transfer sitting out

CINCINNATI : top 50-ish
total notable seniors: 5
note: was expected to take a HUGE hit preseason but best performing players so far are juniors (vogt & williams)
Draft threats: Kieth Williams (low)
Likely Transfers Threats: Zach Harvey (former top 50 recruit)
Notable incoming players : 3 top 150 recruits, with at least 2 schollys left, likely 4 after transfers

TEMPLE: Top 50-ish
total notable seniors: 3
note: best player is only a junior (NPL) but still likely to take a hit
Draft threats: NPL (very low)
Likely Transfers Threats: none atm
Notable incoming players : none that are on paper game changing , but a transfer and 2 freshmen

South Florida: top 75-ish (when healthy)
total notable seniors: 1
note: 1st team all-conference calibur Yetna returns next season
Draft threats: none
Likely Transfers Threats: None
Notable incoming players : A Top 70 4star, a 4star true freshmen iowa state transfer (transferred before the season), an unranked center that has a ton of high major offers

UCF: top 100-ish
total notable seniors: 1 now, though it was expected to be 3 preseason (2 have had minutes reduced)
note: best player and every key player but dazon is returning
Draft threats: Collin Smith (Mid to low)
Likely Transfers Threats: i dont know who but someone/s is going to transfer a lot of players expected to get minutes arent
Notable incoming players : high 3 star fresh, multiple schollys left

TULSA: top 100-ish
total notable seniors: 2
note: 5 of the top 6 scorers return - could lose coach
Draft threats: non
Likely Transfers Threats: none atm, but could lose coach triggering transfers
Notable incoming players : 2 touted p5 transfers, with 2 schollys left

TULANE : top 150-ish
total notable seniors: 2
note: entire roster is 1st year players, even seniors
Draft threats: KJ Lawson (Mid to High) -should be low but hunter noted he expects him to go pro (but insinuated him dominating as part of the reason, which isnt happening)
Likely Transfers Threats: the 3-4 players getting no minutes
Notable incoming players : hunter has stated tulane will got after grad transfers again this offseason, its not transfer season yet

ECU: 270-ish
total notable seniors: 0
note: no seniors on roster
Draft threats: none
Likely Transfers Threats: coach likely to implode roster again
Notable incoming players : none with no schollies, but after coach implodes roster will target players

Your assessment of ECU is a little off. We have a 7 foot freshman coming in for next year and will likely have one or two more players add to the roster. ECU has started out slow due to injuries, players learning to play together, and a bad apple in the locker room. The bad apple (the lone senior) has been kicked off the team and our PG is playing now and probably somewhere around 90% and we are getting closer to be a true team and learning how to play together. We will surprise some teams in conference this year, especially near the end of the season, and will be a lot better next year. Dooley will not be imploding the roster this year just moving around some small pieces to get the full team he needs. Don’t sleep on the Pirates, just like football we are going to be very strong in 2020-2021.

(12-29-2019 09:38 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I sincerely like the optimism of ECU fans. Hopes are sometimes realized. One need look no further than the Tigers improbable turnaround in football and rebuild from Tubby’s destruction.

(12-29-2019 09:54 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  Just let him cook. He thinks he knows so much about ECU, but it is clear that he does not know what he is writing about. He actually wrote in one of his posts that all of the JUCOs that ECU brought in were failures. When it is clear just by watching ECU that two JUCOs (Robinson and Jackson) are easily among the best players on the team. If Robinson was fully healthy then he would be an all conference level player, but they still have him on minute restrictions and he will probably not be fully healthy until the Summer.

Two other JUCOs, Miles and Baruti have not turned out the way people expected, but Baruti had a really good game yesterday and hopefully he can carry that forward.

(12-29-2019 12:08 AM)pesik Wrote:  Notable incoming players : none that are on paper game changing , but a transfer and 2 freshmen

(12-29-2019 08:10 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  Your assessment of ECU is a little off. We have a 7 foot freshman coming in for next year and will likely have one or two more players add to the roster. ECU has started out slow due to injuries, players learning to play together, and a bad apple in the locker room. The bad apple (the lone senior) has been kicked off the team and our PG is playing now and probably somewhere around 90% and we are getting closer to be a true team and learning how to play together. We will surprise some teams in conference this year, especially near the end of the season, and will be a lot better next year. Dooley will not be imploding the roster this year just moving around some small pieces to get the full team he needs. Don’t sleep on the Pirates, just like football we are going to be very strong in 2020-2021.

(12-29-2019 11:05 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-29-2019 09:54 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  Just let him cook. He thinks he knows so much about ECU, but it is clear that he does not know what he is writing about. He actually wrote in one of his posts that all of the JUCOs that ECU brought in were failures. When it is clear just by watching ECU that two JUCOs (Robinson and Jackson) are easily among the best players on the team. If Robinson was fully healthy then he would be an all conference level player, but they still have him on minute restrictions and he will probably not be fully healthy until the Summer.

Two other JUCOs, Miles and Baruti have not turned out the way people expected, but Baruti had a really good game yesterday and hopefully he can carry that forward.

if you are going to quote me, quote me correctly...i said all the ecu jucos were flops in comparison to the expectation they had preseason...i 10000% stand by that

in that SAME POST i said tremont robinson will likley be decent when unlikley to me the expectation he had preseason (which was potential all conference type player)..he will not be anywhere close..there are other all-conference players battling injury and performing

pig was on your team as you comfortably lost to to multiple 300 rpi team

last 2 points:
1) my takes on ecu this preseason were dramatically more accurate that of any ecu fan ..while almost every take by ecu fans were wrong

2) you are way too easily impressed. you have a 250-ish team and still hyping up multi players. from your posts, including gardner and the freshman, you think ecu has 5/6 really good players. a team with 5/6 good players isnt a 250-ish team..

ecu's on 4 game streak so you are hyped about ecu again.. ignoring they were all mid-major and half were horrible

just yesterday, you played a horrible 300 rpi team, you won, but in your enthusiasm no where mentioning you were down 7 at half and needed a comback vs a 300rpi team

i dont care about overhyped ecu expectations, its what yall do--- only responding because of the digs towards me

(12-29-2019 11:05 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-29-2019 09:54 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  Just let him cook. He thinks he knows so much about ECU, but it is clear that he does not know what he is writing about. He actually wrote in one of his posts that all of the JUCOs that ECU brought in were failures. When it is clear just by watching ECU that two JUCOs (Robinson and Jackson) are easily among the best players on the team. If Robinson was fully healthy then he would be an all conference level player, but they still have him on minute restrictions and he will probably not be fully healthy until the Summer.

Two other JUCOs, Miles and Baruti have not turned out the way people expected, but Baruti had a really good game yesterday and hopefully he can carry that forward.

if you are going to quote me, quote me correctly...i said all the ecu jucos were flops in comparison to the expectation they had preseason...i 10000% stand by that

in that SAME POST i said tremont robinson will likley be decent when healthy but unlikely to meet the expectation he had preseason (which was potential all conference type player)..he will not be anywhere close..there are other all-conference players battling injury and performing

pig was on your team as you comfortably lost to to multiple 300 rpi team

last 2 points:
1) my takes on ecu this preseason were dramatically more accurate that of any ecu fan ..while almost every take by ecu fans were wrong

2) you are way too easily impressed. you have a 250-ish team and still hyping up multi players. from your posts, including gardner and the freshman, you think ecu has 5/6 really good players. a team with 5/6 good players isnt a 250-ish team..

ecu's on 4 game streak so you are hyped about ecu again.. ignoring they were all mid-major and half were horrible

just yesterday, you played a horrible 300 rpi team, you won, but in your enthusiasm no where mentioning you were down 7 at half and needed a comback vs a 300rpi team

i dont care about overhyped ecu expectations, its what yall do--- only responding because of the digs towards me

(12-29-2019 11:25 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  Relax Pesik. When you've been as terrible as we have throughout our history some hype and expectations after a few wins, even against terrible teams, is natural and healthy. We have to learn HOW to win, don't you get that?

By the way, your posts are still hard as **** to read. Its like you beat your keyboard with a hammer.

(12-29-2019 11:05 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-29-2019 09:54 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  Just let him cook. He thinks he knows so much about ECU, but it is clear that he does not know what he is writing about. He actually wrote in one of his posts that all of the JUCOs that ECU brought in were failures. When it is clear just by watching ECU that two JUCOs (Robinson and Jackson) are easily among the best players on the team. If Robinson was fully healthy then he would be an all conference level player, but they still have him on minute restrictions and he will probably not be fully healthy until the Summer.

Two other JUCOs, Miles and Baruti have not turned out the way people expected, but Baruti had a really good game yesterday and hopefully he can carry that forward.

if you are going to quote me, quote me correctly...i said all the ecu jucos were flops in comparison to the expectation they had preseason...i 10000% stand by that

in that SAME POST i said tremont robinson will likley be decent when healthy but unlikely to meet the expectation he had preseason (which was potential all conference type player)..he will not be anywhere close..there are other all-conference players battling injury and performing

pig was on your team as you comfortably lost to to multiple 300 rpi team

last 2 points:
1) my takes on ecu this preseason were dramatically more accurate that of any ecu fan ..while almost every take by ecu fans were wrong

2) you are way too easily impressed. you have a 250-ish team and still hyping up multi players. from your posts, including gardner and the freshman, you think ecu has 5/6 really good players. a team with 5/6 good players isnt a 250-ish team..

ecu's on 4 game streak so you are hyped about ecu again.. ignoring they were all mid-major and half were horrible

just yesterday, you played a horrible 300 rpi team, you won, but in your enthusiasm no where mentioning you were down 7 at half and needed a comback vs a 300rpi team

i dont care about overhyped ecu expectations, its what yall do--- only responding because of the digs towards me

(12-29-2019 04:56 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  It's amazing how much ECU discussion occurs in these threads for a perennial 250+ program.