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Volleyball AAC Champions - thebearcat - 11-18-2019 07:54 AM

Shoutout to the Bearcats women's volleyball team! Finished 15-1 in AAC play and won the AAC title for the first time and first regular season title since winning the Big East in 2010.

If you haven't paid attention to this team, Jordan Thompson is the best player on the planet (man, woman, pro, college). She is KILLING it (get it???).


2019 Regular Season Champs



RE: Volleyball AAC Champions - Bruce Monnin - 11-18-2019 08:45 AM

I have watched some matches with Jordan playing for Team USA. She is fun to watch.


RE: Volleyball AAC Champions - OKIcat - 11-18-2019 10:09 AM

Congratulations to the team! Another Bearcat success story.

Does anyone have a sense of how this team might compete in the postseason?


RE: Volleyball AAC Champions - Def Berkkat - 11-18-2019 10:19 AM

Way to go v-ball cats!

I used to be quite the v-ball terror in backyards all over the tri-state in the late '80's. However, I like most commoners do not understand why one chick wears a different uniform that the rest of the team.

I also don't understand why the bench players stand the whole game. There's like, a bench available to them. I see it there. Yet none of them use it. I just don't get it.

I know football players stand for the most part too, but they do go sit on the bench if they want. Seems like it's a no-no in v-ball.

...someone enlighten me please.


RE: Volleyball AAC Champions - moosebean11 - 11-18-2019 10:46 AM

(11-18-2019 10:19 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  Way to go v-ball cats!

I used to be quite the v-ball terror in backyards all over the tri-state in the late '80's. However, I like most commoners do not understand why one chick wears a different uniform that the rest of the team.

I also don't understand why the bench players stand the whole game. There's like, a bench available to them. I see it there. Yet none of them use it. I just don't get it.

I know football players stand for the most part too, but they do go sit on the bench if they want. Seems like it's a no-no in v-ball.

...someone enlighten me please.

The different uniform is the 'Libero' position. They are backrow-only, defensive specialists who are able to sub into the lineup more 'freely' (libero is italian for free) than the other positions. Typically they replace the middle hitters when they rotate to the backrow. The Libero has certain limitations on attacking, so they have to wear the different color jersey to make it easier for the refs to spot those infractions.

Not really sure on the standing thing. Volleyball is less intensive than other sports so I imagine it's for keeping on your toes and not really having the need to rest on the bench.


RE: Volleyball AAC Champions - cpawfan - 11-19-2019 10:44 AM

(11-18-2019 10:46 AM)moosebean11 Wrote:  
(11-18-2019 10:19 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  Way to go v-ball cats!

I used to be quite the v-ball terror in backyards all over the tri-state in the late '80's. However, I like most commoners do not understand why one chick wears a different uniform that the rest of the team.

I also don't understand why the bench players stand the whole game. There's like, a bench available to them. I see it there. Yet none of them use it. I just don't get it.

I know football players stand for the most part too, but they do go sit on the bench if they want. Seems like it's a no-no in v-ball.

...someone enlighten me please.

The different uniform is the 'Libero' position. They are backrow-only, defensive specialists who are able to sub into the lineup more 'freely' (libero is italian for free) than the other positions. Typically they replace the middle hitters when they rotate to the backrow. The Libero has certain limitations on attacking, so they have to wear the different color jersey to make it easier for the refs to spot those infractions.

Not really sure on the standing thing. Volleyball is less intensive than other sports so I imagine it's for keeping on your toes and not really having the need to rest on the bench.

As the resident volleyball geek, I'll just ask, how long of an explanation on the libero do you want?

In volleyball, there are a limited number of substitutions available to each team during a set. When the libero enters the game, they are a replacement that does not count against the substitution count, hence the use of the word free. At the scorers table, there is a person assigned to track the replacements of both team's liberos. There are more boring and specific rules I could go into.

Standing vs Sitting - each level has their rules and traditions. For example in High School in Ohio, girls must sit on the bench or stand behind the bench. In club/junior olympic volleyball, at the big events there are rarely more than a few chairs for the coaches to use and players are required to stand in a certain area (and refs get annoyed when the girls aren't in the right spot).


RE: Volleyball AAC Champions - Def Berkkat - 11-19-2019 11:19 AM

(11-19-2019 10:44 AM)cpawfan Wrote:  
(11-18-2019 10:46 AM)moosebean11 Wrote:  
(11-18-2019 10:19 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  Way to go v-ball cats!

I used to be quite the v-ball terror in backyards all over the tri-state in the late '80's. However, I like most commoners do not understand why one chick wears a different uniform that the rest of the team.

I also don't understand why the bench players stand the whole game. There's like, a bench available to them. I see it there. Yet none of them use it. I just don't get it.

I know football players stand for the most part too, but they do go sit on the bench if they want. Seems like it's a no-no in v-ball.

...someone enlighten me please.

The different uniform is the 'Libero' position. They are backrow-only, defensive specialists who are able to sub into the lineup more 'freely' (libero is italian for free) than the other positions. Typically they replace the middle hitters when they rotate to the backrow. The Libero has certain limitations on attacking, so they have to wear the different color jersey to make it easier for the refs to spot those infractions.

Not really sure on the standing thing. Volleyball is less intensive than other sports so I imagine it's for keeping on your toes and not really having the need to rest on the bench.

As the resident volleyball geek, I'll just ask, how long of an explanation on the libero do you want?

In volleyball, there are a limited number of substitutions available to each team during a set. When the libero enters the game, they are a replacement that does not count against the substitution count, hence the use of the word free. At the scorers table, there is a person assigned to track the replacements of both team's liberos. There are more boring and specific rules I could go into.

Standing vs Sitting - each level has their rules and traditions. For example in High School in Ohio, girls must sit on the bench or stand behind the bench. In club/junior olympic volleyball, at the big events there are rarely more than a few chairs for the coaches to use and players are required to stand in a certain area (and refs get annoyed when the girls aren't in the right spot).

Is this Liberal person a new thing?

I know in high school they all had the same shirts on. I also knew a VB player while at UC and stopped by a couple of matches. its been awhile, but I don't remember anyone in a different color shirt.

I don't know why it bugs me. It just does.


RE: Volleyball AAC Champions - Bruce Monnin - 11-19-2019 11:32 AM

Volleyball was a nice, easy to understand sport.

It was decided that had to change, so they invented this Libero thing.

It is kind of like the designated hitter. A useless change.


RE: Volleyball AAC Champions - bacsidoan - 11-19-2019 04:05 PM

(11-19-2019 11:32 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  Volleyball was a nice, easy to understand sport.

It was decided that had to change, so they invented this Libero thing.

It is kind of like the designated hitter. A useless change.

It's not useless. It allows vertically challenged people with defensive skill to contribute.


RE: Volleyball AAC Champions - cpawfan - 11-22-2019 11:57 AM

(11-19-2019 11:19 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  
(11-19-2019 10:44 AM)cpawfan Wrote:  
(11-18-2019 10:46 AM)moosebean11 Wrote:  
(11-18-2019 10:19 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  Way to go v-ball cats!

I used to be quite the v-ball terror in backyards all over the tri-state in the late '80's. However, I like most commoners do not understand why one chick wears a different uniform that the rest of the team.

I also don't understand why the bench players stand the whole game. There's like, a bench available to them. I see it there. Yet none of them use it. I just don't get it.

I know football players stand for the most part too, but they do go sit on the bench if they want. Seems like it's a no-no in v-ball.

...someone enlighten me please.

The different uniform is the 'Libero' position. They are backrow-only, defensive specialists who are able to sub into the lineup more 'freely' (libero is italian for free) than the other positions. Typically they replace the middle hitters when they rotate to the backrow. The Libero has certain limitations on attacking, so they have to wear the different color jersey to make it easier for the refs to spot those infractions.

Not really sure on the standing thing. Volleyball is less intensive than other sports so I imagine it's for keeping on your toes and not really having the need to rest on the bench.

As the resident volleyball geek, I'll just ask, how long of an explanation on the libero do you want?

In volleyball, there are a limited number of substitutions available to each team during a set. When the libero enters the game, they are a replacement that does not count against the substitution count, hence the use of the word free. At the scorers table, there is a person assigned to track the replacements of both team's liberos. There are more boring and specific rules I could go into.

Standing vs Sitting - each level has their rules and traditions. For example in High School in Ohio, girls must sit on the bench or stand behind the bench. In club/junior olympic volleyball, at the big events there are rarely more than a few chairs for the coaches to use and players are required to stand in a certain area (and refs get annoyed when the girls aren't in the right spot).

Is this Liberal person a new thing?

I know in high school they all had the same shirts on. I also knew a VB player while at UC and stopped by a couple of matches. its been awhile, but I don't remember anyone in a different color shirt.

I don't know why it bugs me. It just does.

Define new. It has been used at the college level since the early 2000s


RE: Volleyball AAC Champions - cpawfan - 11-22-2019 12:02 PM

(11-19-2019 11:32 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  Volleyball was a nice, easy to understand sport.

It was decided that had to change, so they invented this Libero thing.

It is kind of like the designated hitter. A useless change.

I suppose you wish they still had side out scoring instead of rally scoring.


RE: Volleyball AAC Champions - Bruce Monnin - 11-22-2019 12:18 PM

(11-22-2019 12:02 PM)cpawfan Wrote:  
(11-19-2019 11:32 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  Volleyball was a nice, easy to understand sport.

It was decided that had to change, so they invented this Libero thing.

It is kind of like the designated hitter. A useless change.

I suppose you wish they still had side out scoring instead of rally scoring.

I don't care much except rally scoring seems to end the games faster. I bet if you analyzed it, the different scoring would not make a difference in who wins, so the only point is speed of the game.


RE: Volleyball AAC Champions - Captain Bearcat - 11-22-2019 12:51 PM

(11-22-2019 12:18 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  
(11-22-2019 12:02 PM)cpawfan Wrote:  
(11-19-2019 11:32 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  Volleyball was a nice, easy to understand sport.

It was decided that had to change, so they invented this Libero thing.

It is kind of like the designated hitter. A useless change.

I suppose you wish they still had side out scoring instead of rally scoring.

I don't care much except rally scoring seems to end the games faster. I bet if you analyzed it, the different scoring would not make a difference in who wins, so the only point is speed of the game.

Rally scoring also makes the game less exciting.

With side-out scoring (the old way), a team that is 1-point away from winning could go back-and-forth several times before one side wins. The game could end immediately, or it could be drawn out over 10 serves. This uncertainty adds excitement.

With rally scoring, the suspense is gone.

If games are going too long, then they should lower the number of points needed to win rather than switch to rally scoring.


RE: Volleyball AAC Champions - Captain Bearcat - 11-22-2019 01:02 PM

Reading up on this, it looks like the argument for rally scoring is not that it takes less time. Rather, it's that rally scoring makes game length more predictable. This makes it easier for fans & tv partners to schedule the game into their time slots.

This makes sense for grade school games where you only have the court for 1 hour.

But at the competitive level, who cares? College & high school games aren't widely broadcast. No one is going to leave a close-fought match because they've got other plans.

Pro volleyball faces more restrictions because they've got to fit within broadcasters' time slots. But what's more important? Making the game interesting and suspenseful, or making sure that FS2 always has time to do post-game interviews?

Anyways, as streaming rapidly gains popularity over cable, broadcast time slots are going to become a moot point.


RE: Volleyball AAC Champions - cpawfan - 11-23-2019 12:51 AM

Yes, rally scoring makes the time frame more predictable; however, it does make a huge difference in who wins and loses. I also disagree that it makes the game less exciting.

In side out scoring, there was no real penalty for missing a serve if you were a dominating team. Sure you lose the right to serve, but you didn't lose a precious point and all you had to do was earn a sideout to get the serve back. Now that every serve matters, coaches and players have to make decisions about how aggressive they are going to be with the pace, location, and type of serve. (This is also an area that has a lot of analyzed data)

For perspective, I spend more time on volleyball than Bearcat Man does on place kicking and high school football.


RE: Volleyball AAC Champions - bearcatmark - 07-25-2021 10:42 AM

Hope some of you watched the usa women's volleyball team. Jordan Thompson was killing Argentina.


RE: Volleyball AAC Champions - Cal1362 - 07-25-2021 05:48 PM

At one point I thought the announcer said she was like 19 for 23 on her kill shots. She was amazing and easily the most talented woman anywhere on or near the court. And she played great D as well with several very nice stuffs at the net


RE: Volleyball AAC Champions - bearcatmark - 07-27-2021 05:20 AM




RE: Volleyball AAC Champions - BearcatMan - 07-27-2021 06:52 AM

(07-27-2021 05:20 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

I have the replay on DVR...that is a MONSTER game.


RE: Volleyball AAC Champions - OKIcat - 07-27-2021 06:55 AM

Really excited about Jordan's performance and the team's success. She (and UC) are getting some excellent coverage locally and she seems like an outstanding representative for continuing the Olympic success Bearcat athletes have achieved for decades. A tradition we can take great pride in as UC alumni and fans. Go Jordan; go USA. Let's see the Gold.