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The gods of our past - CrimsonPhantom - 10-11-2019 06:41 PM Quote:Many of the stories about the gods and heroes of Greek mythology were compiled during Greek Dark Ages. Impoverished tribes passed down oral traditions that originated after the fall of the lost palatial civilizations of the Mycenaean Greeks. Link RE: The gods of our past - Lush - 10-12-2019 08:08 AM just found my band name RE: The gods of our past - Lush - 10-12-2019 08:28 AM Quote:In the 1940s, young people read William Faulkner, F. Scott Fitzgerald, Pearl Buck and John Steinbeck. Are our current novelists turning out anything comparable? i always wondered what it would be like to walk into a bookshop or whatever and pick up the latest 'rnst hemingway. homeboy (and the ilk you mentioned) was a living legend. we'd probably celebrate authors more if michael jordan didn't exist. imo, current literature has to age. and it probably won't very well. what authors that exist today will we care about fifty years from now? stephen king and a bunch of serial novelists. nora roberts. maybe we can sneak in a vonnegut but it's mostly not memorable. imo. at least we can claim david foster wallace RE: The gods of our past - Owl 69/70/75 - 10-12-2019 08:58 AM I tend to find Victor Davis Hansen to be a very accurate observer of society. RE: The gods of our past - JRsec - 10-12-2019 07:44 PM (10-12-2019 08:28 AM)Lush Wrote:Quote:In the 1940s, young people read William Faulkner, F. Scott Fitzgerald, Pearl Buck and John Steinbeck. Are our current novelists turning out anything comparable? I think if you want to find salient voices today you have to look to short stories, which aren't as popular, have little traction today, but may age well. Face it, today's public is TLDR which I translate as TDCT (Too Dumb Can't Think). It's why debates are kept to short clipped answers devoid of details. Your answer is too long if you can intelligently lay out your plan. Email has replaced letters, and texting has replaced too many emails, and the casualties have been language, precision in expression, and tone to one's remarks. The poor novel never had a chance after the 80's. And Kurt Vonnegut was really post WWII. To have any chance of being seriously heard today you need to write nothing longer than a short story, and if you can possibly manage it a very fact filled condensed one, maybe two page essay. The public just doesn't have the systemic thinking skill sets or patience to go longer. RE: The gods of our past - ericsrevenge76 - 10-13-2019 02:29 AM I know this goes in one ear and out the other of non believers, but consider this: most of this has to do with us turning away from God. The things the article points to are typical examples of how He works when a nation turns away from Him. You can see it in the OT descriptions of Israel when they followed Him and did great works, and how they declined and became incapable of accomplishing things when they turned away. The peak of our nation was the moon landing/space race. Its been a slow downhill slide ever since. Which points to a rather chilling verse in the prophet Obadiah: Obadiah 1:4 Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, from there will I bring thee down, saith the LORD. What was the famous transmission when they landed on the moon? "The EAGLE has landed". Now look at us. RE: The gods of our past - Captain Bearcat - 10-16-2019 08:17 AM (10-12-2019 08:28 AM)Lush Wrote:Quote:In the 1940s, young people read William Faulkner, F. Scott Fitzgerald, Pearl Buck and John Steinbeck. Are our current novelists turning out anything comparable? I despise Faulkner and Fitzgerald. I don't see the redeeming value in their work. Were our grandfathers (well, those of them who went to college, which was almost no one) actually better off for having read Faulkner or Fitzgerald? RE: The gods of our past - Captain Bearcat - 10-16-2019 08:46 AM In the field of literature and storytelling, we are indisputably in a golden age. It's too early to tell who today's great authors will be, because fame in any artistic endeavor is usually a generation behind. But JK Rowling is definitely one of them. Her work has redeeming value, and she's a billionaire - it's hard to argue that Hemmingway was more famous in his day than Rowling is today. The most widely read authors today are probably CS Lewis and JR Tolkien. Those are relatively recent authors in the grand scheme of things. They write deep, deep books with astounding moral values. We also have many other storytellers today who have picked a different medium that was not widely available before the 1940s: film. George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, James Cameron, Stan Lee, Jon Favreau, Ron Howard, Quentin Tarantino, Luc Besson. One-hit wonders like Fight Club, The Matrix, and Groundhog Day have become embedded in our society to a much greater degree than even Mark Twain's novels were in his time. Those are our cultural Gods today. RE: The gods of our past - TigerBlue4Ever - 10-17-2019 08:33 PM (10-12-2019 08:08 AM)Lush Wrote: just found my band name Not bad! I always liked Quaalude Gumbo myself. |