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Encouragement, Encouragement, Encouragement - PerseveranceSpirit - 10-02-2019 09:54 AM
The view of an alum who has followed Rice Football for 40+ years:
I attended the La Tech game and, despite the disappointing final result, came away with the impression that this is a fundamentally sound team that has suffered some bad breaks, season-to-date, and that is willing to learn and improve.
Through continued hard work and unity, the team will continue to get better and better.
The players are to be encouraged; they can be expected to win several C-USA games this year. And more games - in and out of conference - in following years.
"Perseverance and spirit have done wonders in all ages." - George Washington
"In the middle of every difficulty lies opportunity." - Albert Einstein
RE: Encouragement, Encouragement, Encouragement - Hou_Lawyer - 10-02-2019 11:00 AM
(10-02-2019 09:54 AM)PerseveranceSpirit Wrote: The view of an alum who has followed Rice Football for 40+ years:
I attended the La Tech game and, despite the disappointing final result, came away with the impression that this is a fundamentally sound team that has suffered some bad breaks, season-to-date, and that is willing to learn and improve.
Through continued hard work and unity, the team will continue to get better and better.
The players are to be encouraged; they can be expected to win several C-USA games this year. And more games - in and out of conference - in following years.
"Perseverance and spirit have done wonders in all ages." - George Washington
"In the middle of every difficulty lies opportunity." - Albert Einstein
Lipstick on a pig. It's boring football and we're playing boring teams in conference play. No reason to go or support unless you're a diehard.
RE: Encouragement, Encouragement, Encouragement - OptimisticOwl - 10-02-2019 11:08 AM
(10-02-2019 11:00 AM)Hou_Lawyer Wrote:(10-02-2019 09:54 AM)PerseveranceSpirit Wrote: The view of an alum who has followed Rice Football for 40+ years:
I attended the La Tech game and, despite the disappointing final result, came away with the impression that this is a fundamentally sound team that has suffered some bad breaks, season-to-date, and that is willing to learn and improve.
Through continued hard work and unity, the team will continue to get better and better.
The players are to be encouraged; they can be expected to win several C-USA games this year. And more games - in and out of conference - in following years.
"Perseverance and spirit have done wonders in all ages." - George Washington
"In the middle of every difficulty lies opportunity." - Albert Einstein
Lipstick on a pig. It's boring football and we're playing boring teams in conference play. No reason to go or support unless you're a diehard.
I'm a diehard. If all I want to see is entertaining football I can always go to a high school game. The six man games are the least boring. Love those 87-72 games. Pro games are the most boring.
But if I want a game in which I have an emotional stake, it has to be Rice. I would rather watch Rice play than Alabama. Because I don't give a damn about Alabama.
RE: Encouragement, Encouragement, Encouragement - Hambone10 - 10-02-2019 01:05 PM
Agree
If we're going to attract people OTHER than diehards, we're going to have to have exciting schemes or at least exciting players.... and it's going to be hard (but not at all impossible) to get exciting players from g5.
I understand the plan to continue to get better and better.... but what I don't understand (and perhaps I just don't know) is why, if Bloomgren is successful here, that he would turn down offers to leave that would surely come?
That's the problem with these 'build it' plans that we seem to love so much.
RE: Encouragement, Encouragement, Encouragement - 75src - 10-02-2019 02:11 PM
Wins are more important than exciting plays. Neely did well here even though he was a conservative coach. If Bloom does well enough for someone else to take him, then we get someone else which has worked for UH.
(10-02-2019 01:05 PM)Hambone10 Wrote: Agree
If we're going to attract people OTHER than diehards, we're going to have to have exciting schemes or at least exciting players.... and it's going to be hard (but not at all impossible) to get exciting players from g5.
I understand the plan to continue to get better and better.... but what I don't understand (and perhaps I just don't know) is why, if Bloomgren is successful here, that he would turn down offers to leave that would surely come?
That's the problem with these 'build it' plans that we seem to love so much.
RE: Encouragement, Encouragement, Encouragement - Hambone10 - 10-02-2019 03:21 PM
(10-02-2019 02:11 PM)75src Wrote: Wins are more important than exciting plays. Neely did well here even though he was a conservative coach. If Bloom does well enough for someone else to take him, then we get someone else which has worked for UH.
(10-02-2019 01:05 PM)Hambone10 Wrote: Agree
If we're going to attract people OTHER than diehards, we're going to have to have exciting schemes or at least exciting players.... and it's going to be hard (but not at all impossible) to get exciting players from g5.
I understand the plan to continue to get better and better.... but what I don't understand (and perhaps I just don't know) is why, if Bloomgren is successful here, that he would turn down offers to leave that would surely come?
That's the problem with these 'build it' plans that we seem to love so much.
I agree that wins matter.
Neely was 1950 Different era completely
I don't think I'd describe what UH has done as 'build it', schematically. That's actually a perfect example of my point.
If you hire from within, or if you replace him with someone who would have essentially built the same thing, that's fine. It doesn't happen often, but it's a plan.
Let me say it differently...
Bloomgren is an OC/OL guy... hence his philosophy. He wants to recruit/coach/create great OL who will then well protect and block for a great QB/RB who will want to come here because of the OL. I believe but cannot swear to this as his strategy. Let's say he's successful and then gets hired away. It seems self-evident he'd want to take his OL coach, right? So now we've LIKELY (not assuredly, but likely) lost the top 2 people at what he was building... even if we offer his OL coach the HC position. If he stays, maybe there's some continuity. What if he doesn't? What if we get that great QB and then he takes his QB coach and the great player with him as well?
My issue with 'build it' is that we aren't a destination for any coach short of someone who either just bleeds blue and grey or has a scheme not designed to get players to the pros that few others would hire. I would prefer a string of coaches who could recruit and then adapt to get a lot out of whatever we have to work with at the time. I think that's more what UH tries to do.
As I said, maybe I just don't know and of course nobody owes me an explanation... but that is the reality. We're planning around what I see as a very narrow path to longer-term success based on something that has little to do with Rice. I suppose we can argue that cerebral OL are more common and thus making is OL-U makes some sense... but you don't need to be married to the run to develop OL into pro prospects these days.
RE: Encouragement, Encouragement, Encouragement - WRCisforgotten79 - 10-02-2019 03:29 PM
Encouragement, Encouragement, Encouragement?
Not when the offensive philosophy is
Garbage, Garbage, Garbage.
RE: Encouragement, Encouragement, Encouragement - OldOwl - 10-02-2019 08:48 PM
Rice Owl fans would make good Chicago Cub fans.
Encouragement, Encouragement, Encouragement - owl at the moon - 10-02-2019 08:56 PM
(10-02-2019 03:29 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote: Encouragement, Encouragement, Encouragement?
Not when the offensive philosophy is
Garbage, Garbage, Garbage.
Yet we have increased by a whopping 16x the number of FBS teams we’re ranked ahead of!!!
RE: Encouragement, Encouragement, Encouragement - Hambone10 - 10-03-2019 12:38 PM
I WILL say this.
Although our penalty-free execution was missing... I STILL see some guys busting their collective butts. These are Rice guys, through and through. You don't come to Rice because winning is easy.
RE: Encouragement, Encouragement, Encouragement - Ourland - 10-04-2019 06:57 AM
(10-02-2019 11:00 AM)Hou_Lawyer Wrote:(10-02-2019 09:54 AM)PerseveranceSpirit Wrote: The view of an alum who has followed Rice Football for 40+ years:
I attended the La Tech game and, despite the disappointing final result, came away with the impression that this is a fundamentally sound team that has suffered some bad breaks, season-to-date, and that is willing to learn and improve.
Through continued hard work and unity, the team will continue to get better and better.
The players are to be encouraged; they can be expected to win several C-USA games this year. And more games - in and out of conference - in following years.
"Perseverance and spirit have done wonders in all ages." - George Washington
"In the middle of every difficulty lies opportunity." - Albert Einstein
Lipstick on a pig. It's boring football and we're playing boring teams in conference play. No reason to go or support unless you're a diehard.
Then stay away. Rice doesn't need fans like yourself.
RE: Encouragement, Encouragement, Encouragement - WRCisforgotten79 - 10-04-2019 11:28 AM
(10-04-2019 06:57 AM)Ourland Wrote:(10-02-2019 11:00 AM)Hou_Lawyer Wrote:(10-02-2019 09:54 AM)PerseveranceSpirit Wrote: The view of an alum who has followed Rice Football for 40+ years:
I attended the La Tech game and, despite the disappointing final result, came away with the impression that this is a fundamentally sound team that has suffered some bad breaks, season-to-date, and that is willing to learn and improve.
Through continued hard work and unity, the team will continue to get better and better.
The players are to be encouraged; they can be expected to win several C-USA games this year. And more games - in and out of conference - in following years.
"Perseverance and spirit have done wonders in all ages." - George Washington
"In the middle of every difficulty lies opportunity." - Albert Einstein
Lipstick on a pig. It's boring football and we're playing boring teams in conference play. No reason to go or support unless you're a diehard.
Then stay away. Rice doesn't need fans like yourself.
Oh yes, because Rice can afford to piss off the few fans it does have. Just go away Afflicted.
RE: Encouragement, Encouragement, Encouragement - Hou_Lawyer - 10-04-2019 11:30 AM
(10-04-2019 06:57 AM)Ourland Wrote:(10-02-2019 11:00 AM)Hou_Lawyer Wrote:(10-02-2019 09:54 AM)PerseveranceSpirit Wrote: The view of an alum who has followed Rice Football for 40+ years:
I attended the La Tech game and, despite the disappointing final result, came away with the impression that this is a fundamentally sound team that has suffered some bad breaks, season-to-date, and that is willing to learn and improve.
Through continued hard work and unity, the team will continue to get better and better.
The players are to be encouraged; they can be expected to win several C-USA games this year. And more games - in and out of conference - in following years.
"Perseverance and spirit have done wonders in all ages." - George Washington
"In the middle of every difficulty lies opportunity." - Albert Einstein
Lipstick on a pig. It's boring football and we're playing boring teams in conference play. No reason to go or support unless you're a diehard.
Then stay away. Rice doesn't need fans like yourself.
Rice needs all the fans it can get. Keep sticking your head in the mud. It will only get worse. Some people on this board hate hearing the truth, especially the former players.
RE: Encouragement, Encouragement, Encouragement - OptimisticOwl - 10-04-2019 11:35 AM
(10-04-2019 11:28 AM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:(10-04-2019 06:57 AM)Ourland Wrote:(10-02-2019 11:00 AM)Hou_Lawyer Wrote:(10-02-2019 09:54 AM)PerseveranceSpirit Wrote: The view of an alum who has followed Rice Football for 40+ years:
I attended the La Tech game and, despite the disappointing final result, came away with the impression that this is a fundamentally sound team that has suffered some bad breaks, season-to-date, and that is willing to learn and improve.
Through continued hard work and unity, the team will continue to get better and better.
The players are to be encouraged; they can be expected to win several C-USA games this year. And more games - in and out of conference - in following years.
"Perseverance and spirit have done wonders in all ages." - George Washington
"In the middle of every difficulty lies opportunity." - Albert Einstein
Lipstick on a pig. It's boring football and we're playing boring teams in conference play. No reason to go or support unless you're a diehard.
Then stay away. Rice doesn't need fans like yourself.
Oh yes, because Rice can afford to piss off the few fans it does have. Just go away Afflicted.
Sounds like HL is more a fan of being entertained.
But to each his own. If he pays for a ticket and sits in the stands, i don't really care if he is just there for the beautiful girls and good food.
RE: Encouragement, Encouragement, Encouragement - ruowls - 10-04-2019 12:51 PM
(10-04-2019 11:30 AM)Hou_Lawyer Wrote:(10-04-2019 06:57 AM)Ourland Wrote:(10-02-2019 11:00 AM)Hou_Lawyer Wrote:(10-02-2019 09:54 AM)PerseveranceSpirit Wrote: The view of an alum who has followed Rice Football for 40+ years:
I attended the La Tech game and, despite the disappointing final result, came away with the impression that this is a fundamentally sound team that has suffered some bad breaks, season-to-date, and that is willing to learn and improve.
Through continued hard work and unity, the team will continue to get better and better.
The players are to be encouraged; they can be expected to win several C-USA games this year. And more games - in and out of conference - in following years.
"Perseverance and spirit have done wonders in all ages." - George Washington
"In the middle of every difficulty lies opportunity." - Albert Einstein
Lipstick on a pig. It's boring football and we're playing boring teams in conference play. No reason to go or support unless you're a diehard.
Then stay away. Rice doesn't need fans like yourself.
Rice needs all the fans it can get. Keep sticking your head in the mud. It will only get worse. Some people on this board hate hearing the truth, especially the former players.
Tis true.
I can't handle the truth.
RE: Encouragement, Encouragement, Encouragement - Barney - 10-05-2019 05:18 PM
(10-03-2019 12:38 PM)Hambone10 Wrote: I WILL say this.
Although our penalty-free execution was missing... I STILL see some guys busting their collective butts. These are Rice guys, through and through. You don't come to Rice because winning is easy.
+1
RE: Encouragement, Encouragement, Encouragement - wiessguy - 10-06-2019 10:09 AM
(10-03-2019 12:38 PM)Hambone10 Wrote: I WILL say this.
Although our penalty-free execution was missing... I STILL see some guys busting their collective butts. These are Rice guys, through and through. You don't come to Rice because winning is easy.
THIS! I’m sure it’s always been this way somewhat but in today’s college football landscape, you must really really love the game to come play football at Rice. Even as a grad transfer.
RE: Encouragement, Encouragement, Encouragement - GoodOwl - 10-06-2019 02:33 PM
Ouch! Ouch! Ouch!
When's Pera's team starting up again?
RE: Encouragement, Encouragement, Encouragement - PerseveranceSpirit - 12-01-2019 12:10 PM
(10-02-2019 09:54 AM)PerseveranceSpirit Wrote: The view of an alum who has followed Rice Football for 40+ years:
I attended the La Tech game and, despite the disappointing final result, came away with the impression that this is a fundamentally sound team that has suffered some bad breaks, season-to-date, and that is willing to learn and improve.
Through continued hard work and unity, the team will continue to get better and better.
The players are to be encouraged; they can be expected to win several C-USA games this year. And more games - in and out of conference - in following years.
"Perseverance and spirit have done wonders in all ages." - George Washington
"In the middle of every difficulty lies opportunity." - Albert Einstein
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Please continue to encourage the players. As a later post observed, they are Rice guys, through and through, working hard in the classroom, at practice, and on the football field.
RE: Encouragement, Encouragement, Encouragement - Hambone10 - 12-02-2019 04:48 PM
In fairness, I think a decent number of us ARE former players... many of whom won less frequently than some of our recent players... and yet we still see ways that the University and/or those put in charge of them have failed THEM.
Most of these complaints are because the players either can't complain... or because they are too close/lack the longer-term perspective to know how.
I guarantee these guys aren't satisfied with their record or performance.
These guys ARE Rice guys, and thus 'winners', no matter the score. Rice athletes RARELY peak in College.