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McMurphy: Aresco sez AAC is going divisionless in 2020, asking for a waiver - johnbragg - 08-27-2019 05:18 PM
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1166456395291607040
Quote:AAC commissioner Mike Aresco tells
@929espn
the AAC will get rid of divisions starting next season. League is applying for a waiver so football title game will pit AAC's two best teams - same format as the Big 12
RE: McMurphy: Aresco sez AAC is going divisionless in 2020, asking for a waiver - Fighting Muskie - 08-27-2019 05:22 PM
I guess it works. Do the old Big Ten model where each school gets 2 permanent rivals. Each school misses 2 conference foes.
RE: McMurphy: Aresco sez AAC is going divisionless in 2020, asking for a waiver - esayem - 08-27-2019 05:23 PM
(08-27-2019 05:18 PM)johnbragg Wrote: https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1166456395291607040
Quote:AAC commissioner Mike Aresco tells
@929espn
the AAC will get rid of divisions starting next season. League is applying for a waiver so football title game will pit AAC's two best teams - same format as the Big 12
Not gonna work for Navy. No way they cancel Army, Air Force, or ND.
Will be interesting to see if they knock down the door and all conferences can scrap worthless divisions.
RE: McMurphy: Aresco sez AAC is going divisionless in 2020, asking for a waiver - PicksUp - 08-27-2019 05:27 PM
Not the same as the Big 12. They play a round-robin.
RE: McMurphy: Aresco sez AAC is going divisionless in 2020, asking for a waiver - Wedge - 08-27-2019 05:27 PM
(08-27-2019 05:23 PM)esayem Wrote:(08-27-2019 05:18 PM)johnbragg Wrote: https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1166456395291607040
Quote:AAC commissioner Mike Aresco tells
@929espn
the AAC will get rid of divisions starting next season. League is applying for a waiver so football title game will pit AAC's two best teams - same format as the Big 12
Not gonna work for Navy. No way they cancel Army, Air Force, or ND.
Will be interesting to see if they knock down the door and all conferences can scrap worthless divisions.
It won't bother Navy because the AAC will still be playing only 8 conference games. If the AAC was intending to play a full round robin, they wouldn't need to seek a waiver.
And yes, if the NCAA is inclined to permit this, then instead of granting a waiver, they ought to just change the rule so that any conference could go divisionless w/o a round robin, and play a CCG, if the conference wants to do that.
RE: McMurphy: Aresco sez AAC is going divisionless in 2020, asking for a waiver - spenser - 08-27-2019 05:32 PM
(08-27-2019 05:23 PM)esayem Wrote:Still wants to be 8 conference games. No need to cancel OOC games.(08-27-2019 05:18 PM)johnbragg Wrote: https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1166456395291607040
Quote:AAC commissioner Mike Aresco tells
@929espn
the AAC will get rid of divisions starting next season. League is applying for a waiver so football title game will pit AAC's two best teams - same format as the Big 12
Not gonna work for Navy. No way they cancel Army, Air Force, or ND.
Will be interesting to see if they knock down the door and all conferences can scrap worthless divisions.
RE: McMurphy: Aresco sez AAC is going divisionless in 2020, asking for a waiver - solohawks - 08-27-2019 06:13 PM
ACC should apply for the same waiver
RE: McMurphy: Aresco sez AAC is going divisionless in 2020, asking for a waiver - quo vadis - 08-27-2019 06:15 PM
I bet they get a 3-year waiver.
RE: McMurphy: Aresco sez AAC is going divisionless in 2020, asking for a waiver - billybobby777 - 08-27-2019 06:29 PM
(08-27-2019 06:15 PM)quo vadis Wrote: I bet they get a 3-year waiver.
This will be permanent Quo. The ACC wants this as well. I suspect the Big 10, MWC and maybe the SEC wants this and the other 6 conferences will comply.
RE: McMurphy: Aresco sez AAC is going divisionless in 2020, asking for a waiver - Big Frog II - 08-27-2019 06:55 PM
I think this is their best move.
RE: McMurphy: Aresco sez AAC is going divisionless in 2020, asking for a waiver - DavidSt - 08-27-2019 07:49 PM
Not going happen with an uneven conference. They will not get a waiver and have to take ODU to make it work.
RE: McMurphy: Aresco sez AAC is going divisionless in 2020, asking for a waiver - stever20 - 08-27-2019 07:50 PM
(08-27-2019 06:29 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:(08-27-2019 06:15 PM)quo vadis Wrote: I bet they get a 3-year waiver.
This will be permanent Quo. The ACC wants this as well. I suspect the Big 10, MWC and maybe the SEC wants this and the other 6 conferences will comply.
I would think the MAC, CUSA, and SBC would want this for sure as well so they wouldn't be in danger of getting raided by the AAC if they're forced to get a 12th team.
RE: McMurphy: Aresco sez AAC is going divisionless in 2020, asking for a waiver - quo vadis - 08-27-2019 07:53 PM
(08-27-2019 06:29 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:(08-27-2019 06:15 PM)quo vadis Wrote: I bet they get a 3-year waiver.
This will be permanent Quo. The ACC wants this as well. I suspect the Big 10, MWC and maybe the SEC wants this and the other 6 conferences will comply.
Personally, I hope not, as I don't like divisionless CCGs. If you don't have divisions, the champ should just be the team with the best record after conference play.
We shall see.
RE: McMurphy: Aresco sez AAC is going divisionless in 2020, asking for a waiver - Gamecock - 08-27-2019 08:05 PM
(08-27-2019 07:49 PM)DavidSt Wrote: Not going happen with an uneven conference. They will not get a waiver and have to take ODU to make it work.
Why ODU?
Southern Miss, Marshall, and maybe 1-2 other schools probably make more sense
RE: McMurphy: Aresco sez AAC is going divisionless in 2020, asking for a waiver - esayem - 08-27-2019 08:12 PM
There is no way they get some extended waiver on this. The NCAA will need something in writing about finding a replacement or it will be rejected. Play everyone or have divisions. No G5 is going to get a waiver when the ACC didn’t.
*If they are allowed unbalanced divisions, could be a loophole.
RE: McMurphy: Aresco sez AAC is going divisionless in 2020, asking for a waiver - bullet - 08-27-2019 08:22 PM
(08-27-2019 06:15 PM)quo vadis Wrote: I bet they get a 3-year waiver.
They shouldn't get any waiver except for a couple of years for division play without round robin, like the MAC got.
If they want to pair the two best teams, play a round robin. If necessary, kick someone out.
RE: McMurphy: Aresco sez AAC is going divisionless in 2020, asking for a waiver - bullet - 08-27-2019 08:23 PM
Aresco says a lot of things that will never happen, like the "P6."
RE: McMurphy: Aresco sez AAC is going divisionless in 2020, asking for a waiver - oliveandblue - 08-27-2019 09:12 PM
It doesn't hurt anyone if the AAC is allowed to reformat divisions. If I am a G5 conference, the last thing I want is a motivated AAC looking to poach.
If I am a P5 conference, I am not competing with them for an access bowl so who cares.
RE: McMurphy: Aresco sez AAC is going divisionless in 2020, asking for a waiver - solohawks - 08-27-2019 09:30 PM
If they dont approve the waiver they are encouraging instability. If they do approve the waiver the ACC would probably want the same rules to apply to them
RE: McMurphy: Aresco sez AAC is going divisionless in 2020, asking for a waiver - esayem - 08-27-2019 09:32 PM
(08-27-2019 09:12 PM)oliveandblue Wrote: It doesn't hurt anyone if the AAC is allowed to reformat divisions. If I am a G5 conference, the last thing I want is a motivated AAC looking to poach.
If I am a P5 conference, I am not competing with them for an access bowl so who cares.
The NCAA doesn’t recognize P5 or G5, so there is no way the AAC is getting preferential treatment. They MAY be allowed 6 and 5 team divisions as a loophole, but no way they’re getting what every conference can benefit from: no divisions, no round robin, but a CCG. Not without everyone else.