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New docs show Nike $$$ at work - BandwagonJumper - 08-16-2019 07:42 PM

Quote:Texts and emails allegedly detail Nike’s willingness to pay high schoolers, including Zion Williamson

Text messages and emails from Nike executives entered in federal court on Friday paint a vivid portrait of the inner workings of grassroots basketball.

They include detailed plans to pay then-high school stars such as Zion Williamson and Romeo Langford, line-item accounting of alleged payments to the people around eventual No. 1 pick Deandre Ayton, and an acknowledgement by a top Nike executive that “the perception and resulting reality is that we dictate where players go to school.”

Controversial lawyer Michael Avenatti produced the exhibits on Friday that supported his allegations filed earlier this week that Nike has engaged in widespread corruption and under-the-table payments to high school players via its Elite Youth Basketball League (EYBL).

https://sports.yahoo.com/texts-and-emails-allegedly-detail-nikes-willingness-to-pay-high-schoolers-including-zion-williamson-001012098.html

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RE: New docs show Nike $$$ at work - hartlessnhere - 08-16-2019 07:49 PM

The smoking gun! Nice find.

P.S.: With a license to kill.

RE: New docs show Nike $$$ at work - memtigbb - 08-16-2019 08:13 PM

It only matters if it involved KY to me.

RE: New docs show Nike $$$ at work - aTxTIGER - 08-16-2019 08:17 PM

It only matters to me if we are involved.

Honestly I don’t care at all. High level college recruits should be paid anyway for the revenue they create and should be able to profit on their own likeness.

RE: New docs show Nike $$$ at work - DallasTiger - 08-17-2019 10:24 AM

(08-16-2019 08:17 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  It only matters to me if we are involved.

Honestly I don’t care at all. High level college recruits should be paid anyway for the revenue they create and should be able to profit on their own likeness.

Biggest problem with profiting from your likeness is that UCLA and schools in New York and Chicago will benefit the most. In those markets, due to size, your likeness is worth more than it would be worth in Ames, Iowa. Seems like recruits would start signing up with schools in the largest markets...where they can make the most amount of money.

RE: New docs show Nike $$$ at work - misplaced tiger - 08-17-2019 10:36 AM

KY is involved. Some of the texts captured involved Kenny Payne

RE: New docs show Nike $$$ at work - memtigbb - 08-17-2019 11:08 AM

I think we all know Nike is bigger than the FBI.

RE: New docs show Nike $$$ at work - tkgrrett - 08-17-2019 11:17 AM

Huh? These texts pretty clearly show funding arrangements being made to get AAU teams to play on specific shoe circuits plus a few references to payments between EYBL coaches and families but with no statements of direct knowledge

Not seeing a smoking gun at all or really any useful info at all

RE: New docs show Nike $$$ at work - Hernando Hills Tiger - 08-17-2019 11:57 AM

Just hope we don't get caught.

RE: New docs show Nike $$$ at work - hartlessnhere - 08-17-2019 12:36 PM

(08-17-2019 11:17 AM)tkgrrett Wrote:  Huh? These texts pretty clearly show funding arrangements being made to get AAU teams to play on specific shoe circuits plus a few references to payments between EYBL coaches and families but with no statements of direct knowledge

Not seeing a smoking gun at all or really any useful info at all
Oh, it's evidence that the shoe companies (in particularly Nike) decide where players go. Yet, it's not illegal nor has anyone broke any NCAA rules unless you are a part of the NCAA of which Nike is not. Hince, my statement "with a license to kill" (meaning they can/will get away with it.

RE: New docs show Nike $$$ at work - memtigbb - 08-17-2019 01:24 PM

(08-17-2019 12:36 PM)hartlessnhere Wrote:  
(08-17-2019 11:17 AM)tkgrrett Wrote:  Huh? These texts pretty clearly show funding arrangements being made to get AAU teams to play on specific shoe circuits plus a few references to payments between EYBL coaches and families but with no statements of direct knowledge

Not seeing a smoking gun at all or really any useful info at all
Oh, it's evidence that the shoe companies (in particularly Nike) decide where players go. Yet, it's not illegal nor has anyone broke any NCAA rules unless you are a part of the NCAA of which Nike is not. Hince, my statement "with a license to kill" (meaning they can/will get away with it.

I dont think they really specify a school. My take is any Nike school. If you sign with a Nike school, you get the Nike package.

If someone signs with an Addidas school, they get the Addidas package.

RE: New docs show Nike $$$ at work - memphisike - 08-17-2019 02:00 PM

Cal is way to smart for the FBI and they know it

RE: New docs show Nike $$$ at work - ncrdbl1 - 08-17-2019 02:18 PM

zzzzzzzzzzz

snoozefest nothing smoking.

RE: New docs show Nike $$$ at work - WiseMan - 08-17-2019 02:44 PM

(08-17-2019 10:24 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  
(08-16-2019 08:17 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  It only matters to me if we are involved.

Honestly I don’t care at all. High level college recruits should be paid anyway for the revenue they create and should be able to profit on their own likeness.

Biggest problem with profiting from your likeness is that UCLA and schools in New York and Chicago will benefit the most. In those markets, due to size, your likeness is worth more than it would be worth in Ames, Iowa. Seems like recruits would start signing up with schools in the largest markets...where they can make the most amount of money.

I think in the long term it would benefit programs located in cities that have professional teams (the ones with higher populations) and would destabilize the P5 with such backwater towns as Miss. St in Starkville, MS, Iowa in Iowa City, Baylor in Lubbock.

Would benefit AAC with Philadelphia, Orlando, Dallas, Tampa, Cincinnati, Memphis, New Orleans-who did I leave out? Probably would take at a minimum 2 four year recruiting classes (and a new TV contract) to start to have an effect IMO.

RE: New docs show Nike $$$ at work - snowtiger - 08-17-2019 02:47 PM

From the op: Controversial lawyer Michael Avenatti produced the exhibits on Friday that supported his allegations filed earlier this week that Nike has engaged in widespread corruption and under-the-table payments to high school players via its Elite Youth Basketball League (EYBL).


Avenatti seems like a sourgrapes dic. He kinda lost his cred somewhere along the way.

RE: New docs show Nike $$$ at work - memphisike - 08-17-2019 03:18 PM

He had cred ?

RE: New docs show Nike $$$ at work - snowtiger - 08-17-2019 03:54 PM

(08-17-2019 03:18 PM)memphisike Wrote:  He had cred ?

errbody born with cred

RE: New docs show Nike $$$ at work - MemDawg91 - 08-17-2019 07:13 PM

(08-17-2019 02:44 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  
(08-17-2019 10:24 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  
(08-16-2019 08:17 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  It only matters to me if we are involved.

Honestly I don’t care at all. High level college recruits should be paid anyway for the revenue they create and should be able to profit on their own likeness.

Biggest problem with profiting from your likeness is that UCLA and schools in New York and Chicago will benefit the most. In those markets, due to size, your likeness is worth more than it would be worth in Ames, Iowa. Seems like recruits would start signing up with schools in the largest markets...where they can make the most amount of money.

I think in the long term it would benefit programs located in cities that have professional teams (the ones with higher populations) and would destabilize the P5 with such backwater towns as Miss. St in Starkville, MS, Iowa in Iowa City, Baylor in Lubbock.

Would benefit AAC with Philadelphia, Orlando, Dallas, Tampa, Cincinnati, Memphis, New Orleans-who did I leave out? Probably would take at a minimum 2 four year recruiting classes (and a new TV contract) to start to have an effect IMO.

I’m thinking it would be the opposite. With the exception of Memphis where the tigers are more loved than the Grizzlies, would there be enough interest in those bigger cities that have multiple pro and college teams for players to see a real profit? For example, UCLA is probably the 5th most important team in that market so there wouldn’t be that much interest in buying an autograph or a jersey with the star player’s name on it. In smaller college towns like Starkville, Oxford, Tuscaloosa, etc. where there’s nothing but the college, those players would see more potential earnings and fan interest if they’re the stars of their respective teams. Thoughts?

RE: New docs show Nike $$$ at work - Hernando Hills Tiger - 08-17-2019 08:59 PM

(08-17-2019 03:54 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(08-17-2019 03:18 PM)memphisike Wrote:  He had cred ?

errbody born with cred

U gotz to ern creds doe.

RE: New docs show Nike $$$ at work - snowtiger - 08-17-2019 09:12 PM

(08-17-2019 08:59 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(08-17-2019 03:54 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(08-17-2019 03:18 PM)memphisike Wrote:  He had cred ?

errbody born with cred

U gotz to ern creds doe.

Newborn infants got cred doe. They born that way. It's their survival mechanism.
Otherwise grownups might kick their demanding lil baby asses

Betcha you had some real cute cred when you were born.