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RE: 2019 Football Training Camp Thread - Deez Nuts - 08-09-2019 12:19 PM
Per Madia: Spalding left the program due to a career ending hip injury
RE: 2019 Football Training Camp Thread - JMURocks - 08-09-2019 12:24 PM
(08-09-2019 12:19 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote: Per Madia: Spalding left the program due to a career ending hip injury
Wow, that sucks! Very unfortunate, wish him much future success in life.
RE: 2019 Football Training Camp Thread - JMUDukes1750 - 08-09-2019 12:27 PM
Tore muscles in his hip, that's awful. Hope he can recover
RE: 2019 Football Training Camp Thread - Purple - 08-09-2019 12:37 PM
(08-09-2019 12:19 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote: Per Madia: Spalding left the program due to a career ending hip injury
Torn hip muscle is "career-ending?"
RE: 2019 Football Training Camp Thread - AssyrianDuke - 08-09-2019 12:47 PM
Apparently this one was. Spalding told Madia something to the effect of the doctors said he can't play football anymore.
RE: 2019 Football Training Camp Thread - dukes5 - 08-09-2019 03:53 PM
Love this board but hate the unfounded speculation that is thrown out there when a player leaves. I had personal insight into why one former player left (which was also medically related). That was a very tough time for him and his family as they loved football and JMU. I know they read these boards and were sad about all the unfounded comments being made. It would be nice to give it a few days for the facts to come out before hurtful things are said about our Dukes.
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RE: 2019 Football Training Camp Thread - BDKJMU - 08-10-2019 03:35 PM
(08-07-2019 01:01 PM)olddawg Wrote:(08-07-2019 11:35 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:(08-07-2019 08:20 AM)JMUDukes1750 Wrote: On Madia's notes, he was talking about the emergence of Willie Drew, possibly starting opposite Robinson. With seasoned players like Charles Tutt (though injuries make him less seasoned), Taurus Carroll, and Wesley McCormick, Drew pushing past them has me thinking we might have another big time corner on our hands.With the QB talk on the off season thread of Dinucci not surprisingly emerging as the clear front runner & Maloney with the hamstring injury, that was overlooked. That could be a surprise starter. I hope that is more to do with Drew's improvement versus any lingering issues with Tutt. Would be great to have 5 very good corners available, as there's often 3 on the field, plus often someone is banged up..
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Would be nice to see improvement from Carroll and McCormick. They had a rough outing against State last year but hopefully learned a lot. Think about how badly Moreland got torched against UNC in 2016 and where he is now.
Madia’s JMURivals article today on the battle for the starting corner spot opposite Robinson. Sounds like its down to McCormick, Drew, or Tutt, who just can’t seem to stay healthy..
“...Cignetti said redshirt freshman cornerback Willie Drew had an interception return for a touchdown during the scrimmage and that there are a few players vying for the starting role.
“Wesley McCormick has been out there and got a lot of reps, and has the inside track. I wish we could keep Tutt on the field more consistently. There are too many little this or that or what have you. You don’t get better if you’re not on the field. And then there are young players in there competing, too, so we’ll be all right.”
McCormick, a junior, made three starts at cornerback last year and has played in 27 games over the past two seasons. Tutt, a fifth-year senior, has fought injuries throughout his career, but started four times last year and recorded first-career interception in JMU’s first-round playoff win over Delaware. Drew was a Virginia High School League Class 4A All-Region defensive back in his senior year at Smithfield High School...”
https://jamesmadison.rivals.com/news/field-notes-corner-competition-heating-up
RE: 2019 Football Training Camp Thread - olddawg - 08-10-2019 09:52 PM
It's weird how 2 guys can play the same position, but sometimes one gets consistently injured while the other stays healthy. I truly believe some guys sense and absorb blows better.
RE: 2019 Football Training Camp Thread - BleedingPurple - 08-11-2019 08:42 AM
(08-10-2019 09:52 PM)olddawg Wrote: It's weird how 2 guys can play the same position, but sometimes one gets consistently injured while the other stays healthy. I truly believe some guys sense and absorb blows better.
I've always believed that some can roll with the hits better than others.
2019 Football Training Camp Thread - JMUDunk - 08-11-2019 04:29 PM
(08-09-2019 12:37 PM)Purple Wrote:(08-09-2019 12:19 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote: Per Madia: Spalding left the program due to a career ending hip injury
Torn hip muscle is "career-ending?"
I’m no Doc, but have some “hip experience”.
This sounds, if reported correctly I have no idea, torn not pulled. That means either separated from the bone or something that could severely weaken the hip muscle with scar tissue etc., and the hip is a big un for all kinds of daily living. Balance, normal activity like climbing steps or swinging a golf club, whatever.
As far as football goes, the hips are really important for an athletic position like wide out.
Anyone know if he left school altogether or just hung up the cleats?
Regardless, wish him well, that’s gotta suck for a young guy like that.
RE: 2019 Football Training Camp Thread - TXGiant - 08-11-2019 05:03 PM
(08-11-2019 04:29 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:(08-09-2019 12:37 PM)Purple Wrote:(08-09-2019 12:19 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote: Per Madia: Spalding left the program due to a career ending hip injury
Torn hip muscle is "career-ending?"
I’m no Doc, but have some “hip experience”.
This sounds, if reported correctly I have no idea, torn not pulled. That means either separated from the bone or something that could severely weaken the hip muscle with scar tissue etc., and the hip is a big un for all kinds of daily living. Balance, normal activity like climbing steps or swinging a golf club, whatever.
As far as football goes, the hips are really important for an athletic position like wide out.
Anyone know if he left school altogether or just hung up the cleats?
Regardless, wish him well, that’s gotta suck for a young guy like that.
My understanding is that he is completing his studies at JMU.
RE: 2019 Football Training Camp Thread - AssyrianDuke - 08-12-2019 07:58 AM
Yup. Just hung up the cleats, as you say. He is still enrolled at JMU, and (hopefully) will be an alum like the rest of us.
RE: 2019 Football Training Camp Thread - Deez Nuts - 08-12-2019 08:44 AM
Lots of NFL scouts through camp the last few days! The Jets are here today
RE: 2019 Football Training Camp Thread - formerjmusprinter84 - 08-12-2019 09:00 AM
(08-11-2019 04:29 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:(08-09-2019 12:37 PM)Purple Wrote:(08-09-2019 12:19 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote: Per Madia: Spalding left the program due to a career ending hip injury
Torn hip muscle is "career-ending?"
I’m no Doc, but have some “hip experience”.
This sounds, if reported correctly I have no idea, torn not pulled. That means either separated from the bone or something that could severely weaken the hip muscle with scar tissue etc., and the hip is a big un for all kinds of daily living. Balance, normal activity like climbing steps or swinging a golf club, whatever.
As far as football goes, the hips are really important for an athletic position like wide out.
Anyone know if he left school altogether or just hung up the cleats?
Regardless, wish him well, that’s gotta suck for a young guy like that.
I have had a few sprinters experience pretty severe hip injuries over the years (partial separation/tear of the hip flexor from the bone). Two recovered well, one could no longer run. No hit, just sprinting full speed.
Bo Jackson is a good example of a 'freak" hip injury. That one is painful to watch.
He was one of the strongest running backs in the NFL, but all it takes is a weird scenario (in his case) to end a career.
Hope that young man gets proper treatment it heals up well.
RE: 2019 Football Training Camp Thread - BDKJMU - 08-12-2019 10:21 AM
Madia JMU Rivals article on the RBs:
Montgomery: “Obviously, you want to have a workhorse guy, a guy that’s your number one. But to get through a season and to get through a game, you’ve got to have at least two or three that you can play.”
Article mentioned the last time JMU had a RB get 40% of the carries was Abdullah in 2016. For Montoyomery its happened 4 of the last 5 seasons as OC at YSU & UNCC. 2017 Summers for Elon had a couple games with 30-40 carries, but last 2 seasons had mid season season ending injuries.
CC: “You’ve got to have four guys ready to go. And pretty much in the game if a guy carries it three or four times consecutively, we get the next guy in, so he’s fresh. So I think if you’re running the ball really well, you’re probably going to play three backs.”
“If a feature back emerges, it’ll likely be Agyei-Obese or Hamilton. JMU coach Curt Cignetti said redshirt freshman Solomon Vanhorse is impressing in practice on the heels of a strong spring and that Vanhorse, junior Eric Kirlew and true freshman Austin Douglas are in the mix for touches, too.”
https://jamesmadison.rivals.com/news/ready-for-more-171
So of the 3 true Fr RBs:
#2 Fr Austin Douglas (5’11”/195)
#21 Fr Latrele Palmer (5’11”/228)
#28 Fr CJ Jackson (5’9”/198)
It sounds like at least Douglas won’t be redshirting and will be the 1st one we’ll see.
RE: 2019 Football Training Camp Thread - JMURocks - 08-12-2019 10:24 AM
(08-12-2019 08:44 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote: Lots of NFL scouts through camp the last few days! The Jets are here today
The more guys like JFM shine this year, the more attention all our players will get. Pretty sure quite a few teams will be kicking themselves over missing out on Jimmy, if they aren't already.
RE: 2019 Football Training Camp Thread - DoubleDogDare - 08-12-2019 11:04 AM
(08-12-2019 10:21 AM)BDKJMU Wrote: Madia JMU Rivals article on the RBs:
Montgomery: “Obviously, you want to have a workhorse guy, a guy that’s your number one. But to get through a season and to get through a game, you’ve got to have at least two or three that you can play.”
Article mentioned the last time JMU had a RB get 40% of the carries was Abdullah in 2016. For Montoyomery its happened 4 of the last 5 seasons as OC at YSU & UNCC. 2017 Summers for Elon had a couple games with 30-40 carries, but last 2 seasons had mid season season ending injuries.
CC: “You’ve got to have four guys ready to go. And pretty much in the game if a guy carries it three or four times consecutively, we get the next guy in, so he’s fresh. So I think if you’re running the ball really well, you’re probably going to play three backs.”
“If a feature back emerges, it’ll likely be Agyei-Obese or Hamilton. JMU coach Curt Cignetti said redshirt freshman Solomon Vanhorse is impressing in practice on the heels of a strong spring and that Vanhorse, junior Eric Kirlew and true freshman Austin Douglas are in the mix for touches, too.”
https://jamesmadison.rivals.com/news/ready-for-more-171
So of the 3 true Fr RBs:
#2 Fr Austin Douglas (5’11”/195)
#21 Fr Latrele Palmer (5’11”/228)
#28 Fr CJ Jackson (5’9”/198)
It sounds like at least Douglas won’t be redshirting and will be the 1st one we’ll see.
Thankfully the redshirt rule change from last year allows CC to make this decision in Sep/Oct rather than August. Not to get on a tangent but I think the change in redshirting was the best thing the NCAA has done for athletes in a while.
RE: 2019 Football Training Camp Thread - Purple - 08-12-2019 12:17 PM
(08-12-2019 10:24 AM)JMURocks Wrote:(08-12-2019 08:44 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote: Lots of NFL scouts through camp the last few days! The Jets are here today
The more guys like JFM shine this year, the more attention all our players will get. Pretty sure quite a few teams will be kicking themselves over missing out on Jimmy, if they aren't already.
With Rashad likely the next big JMU product, are we becoming "Corner U?"
RE: 2019 Football Training Camp Thread - BDKJMU - 08-12-2019 05:24 PM
(08-12-2019 12:17 PM)Purple Wrote:Not yet. The below is talk for the Pro Dukes thread, but of the current 11 on NFL rosters (at least as of a few days ago), I count:(08-12-2019 10:24 AM)JMURocks Wrote:(08-12-2019 08:44 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote: Lots of NFL scouts through camp the last few days! The Jets are here today
The more guys like JFM shine this year, the more attention all our players will get. Pretty sure quite a few teams will be kicking themselves over missing out on Jimmy, if they aren't already.
With Rashad likely the next big JMU product, are we becoming "Corner U?"
-1 WR
-1 RB
-1 TE
-3 OL
-1 OLB
-1 corner
-2 safety
-1 return specialist.
That’s a pretty good spread among different positions. I think you would need making rosters at one time for a season at least 4 on the OL or DL, or 3 at RB/TE/WR/LB/C/S or maybe 2 at QB/K/P before could apply the label of “insert your position here U.”
RE: 2019 Football Training Camp Thread - Purple - 08-12-2019 08:12 PM
(08-12-2019 05:24 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:(08-12-2019 12:17 PM)Purple Wrote:Not yet. The below is talk for the Pro Dukes thread, but of the current 11 on NFL rosters (at least as of a few days ago), I count:(08-12-2019 10:24 AM)JMURocks Wrote:(08-12-2019 08:44 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote: Lots of NFL scouts through camp the last few days! The Jets are here today
The more guys like JFM shine this year, the more attention all our players will get. Pretty sure quite a few teams will be kicking themselves over missing out on Jimmy, if they aren't already.
With Rashad likely the next big JMU product, are we becoming "Corner U?"
-1 WR
-1 RB
-1 TE
-3 OL
-1 OLB
-1 corner
-2 safety
-1 return specialist.
That’s a pretty good spread among different positions. I think you would need making rosters at one time for a season at least 4 on the OL or DL, or 3 at RB/TE/WR/LB/C/S or maybe 2 at QB/K/P before could apply the label of “insert your position here U.”
I'm considering JFM's stock being so high right now. Rashad is going to be the same, I believe. If one of our undrafted free agents were shining like JFM is, I wouldn't make the "Corner U" statement. Rashad (I'm praying he stays healthy) is going to follow JFM to the bigs and make just as big a splash, in my humble opinion. I know we aren't Corner U today, but next year....