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The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs - CougarRed - 06-07-2019 06:35 AM
Uncannily similar ascents.
Per the Massey Composite:
2015 - Texas Tech finished 144, Houston finished 201
2016 - Tech 52, Houston 65
2017 - Tech 58, Houston 56
2018 - Tech 12, Houston 18
2019 - Tech 5, Houston 10
Kelvin Sampson started at Houston in 2015.
Tech was coached by Tubby Smith in 2015 & 2016 before Chris Beard took over. Beard may be one of the all-time greats before he is done.
Auburn has experienced a similar rise under Bruce Pearl, who started in 2015 as well. Per Massey Composite:
2015 - 131
2016 - 179
2017 - 86
2018 - 21
2019 - 11
As has Tennessee, with Rick Barnes taking over in 2016:
2015 - 85
2016 - 110
2017 - 69
2018 - 14
2019 - 9
In addition to new coaches, Auburn and Houston's programs were bolstered by new arenas as well.
RE: The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs - MidWestMidMajor - 06-07-2019 07:47 AM
The folks in Austin must be crying in their beer. Texas did win the NIT this year (with a memorable victory over Lipscomb). But they have been passed by Tech and Houston while watching the coach they fired light up Tennessee. They must be wondering when their $3.3 million contract with Shaka Smart will get them what they thought they were buying (NCAA victories, not NIT victories; conference championships, not participation ribbons). Shaka's best year at Texas was year #1 with Rick Barnes roster. If it wasn't for that $13 million buyout...
RE: The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs - bullet - 06-07-2019 10:46 AM
Barnes seemed to have plateaued at Texas, but he should not be underestimated. He's won everywhere.
Shaka has yet to prove himself at Texas.
RE: The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs - P5PACSEC - 06-07-2019 06:12 PM
(06-07-2019 06:35 AM)CougarRed Wrote: Uncannily similar ascents.
Per the Massey Composite:
2015 - Texas Tech finished 144, Houston finished 201
2016 - Tech 52, Houston 65
2017 - Tech 58, Houston 56
2018 - Tech 12, Houston 18
2019 - Tech 5, Houston 10
Kelvin Sampson started at Houston in 2015.
Tech was coached by Tubby Smith in 2015 & 2016 before Chris Beard took over. Beard may be one of the all-time greats before he is done.
Auburn has experienced a similar rise under Bruce Pearl, who started in 2015 as well. Per Massey Composite:
2015 - 131
2016 - 179
2017 - 86
2018 - 21
2019 - 11
As has Tennessee, with Rick Barnes taking over in 2016:
2015 - 85
2016 - 110
2017 - 69
2018 - 14
2019 - 9
In addition to new coaches, Auburn and Houston's programs were bolstered by new arenas as well.
It's been fun watching Texas Tech the last few years and I believe Beard is just scratching the surface with 2 Elite 8's and a National Championship appearance.
No doubt Texas Tech and UH have the 2 best basketball programs in the state of Texas right now. Tech lost a ton from the 2018 team that made the Elite 8 but reloaded and played for a National Championship in 2019.
2019-2020 should be fun. Good luck to UH and Wreck Em Tech.
OT: Texas Tech and UH are fighting for a T&F National Championship in Austin tonight.
RE: The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs - P5PACSEC - 06-07-2019 09:33 PM
Texas Tech just won the Men's Track & Field National Championship in Austin.
Guns up and Wreck Em Tech. Raider Power
RE: The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs - Wolfman - 06-08-2019 10:12 AM
(06-07-2019 06:35 AM)CougarRed Wrote: ... Tech was coached by Tubby Smith in 2015 & 2016 before Chris Beard took over. Beard may be one of the all-time greats before he is done...
I thought it was against the law in Texas for a Houston fan to say something good about Texas Tech?
RE: The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs - CougarRed - 06-08-2019 11:01 AM
(06-07-2019 09:33 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote: Texas Tech just won the Men's Track & Field National Championship in Austin.
Guns up and Wreck Em Tech. Raider Power
Helluva Spring for Texas Tech! Congrats!
Coogs finish 3rd for the second year in a row.
RE: The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs - zoocrew - 06-08-2019 08:00 PM
(06-07-2019 09:33 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote: Texas Tech just won the Men's Track & Field National Championship in Austin.
Guns up and Wreck Em Tech. Raider Power
Guns up and Wreck em I like
But “Raider Power”? Yikes
RE: The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs - Scoochpooch1 - 06-08-2019 09:58 PM
(06-07-2019 06:12 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:(06-07-2019 06:35 AM)CougarRed Wrote: Uncannily similar ascents.
Per the Massey Composite:
2015 - Texas Tech finished 144, Houston finished 201
2016 - Tech 52, Houston 65
2017 - Tech 58, Houston 56
2018 - Tech 12, Houston 18
2019 - Tech 5, Houston 10
Kelvin Sampson started at Houston in 2015.
Tech was coached by Tubby Smith in 2015 & 2016 before Chris Beard took over. Beard may be one of the all-time greats before he is done.
Auburn has experienced a similar rise under Bruce Pearl, who started in 2015 as well. Per Massey Composite:
2015 - 131
2016 - 179
2017 - 86
2018 - 21
2019 - 11
As has Tennessee, with Rick Barnes taking over in 2016:
2015 - 85
2016 - 110
2017 - 69
2018 - 14
2019 - 9
In addition to new coaches, Auburn and Houston's programs were bolstered by new arenas as well.
It's been fun watching Texas Tech the last few years and I believe Beard is just scratching the surface with 2 Elite 8's and a National Championship appearance.
No doubt Texas Tech and UH have the 2 best basketball programs in the state of Texas right now. Tech lost a ton from the 2018 team that made the Elite 8 but reloaded and played for a National Championship in 2019.
2019-2020 should be fun. Good luck to UH and Wreck Em Tech.
OT: Texas Tech and UH are fighting for a T&F National Championship in Austin tonight.
So you are guaranteeing a MBB National Championship? I think everyone will take that bet.
RE: The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs - P5PACSEC - 06-10-2019 05:47 PM
(06-08-2019 09:58 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:(06-07-2019 06:12 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:(06-07-2019 06:35 AM)CougarRed Wrote: Uncannily similar ascents.
Per the Massey Composite:
2015 - Texas Tech finished 144, Houston finished 201
2016 - Tech 52, Houston 65
2017 - Tech 58, Houston 56
2018 - Tech 12, Houston 18
2019 - Tech 5, Houston 10
Kelvin Sampson started at Houston in 2015.
Tech was coached by Tubby Smith in 2015 & 2016 before Chris Beard took over. Beard may be one of the all-time greats before he is done.
Auburn has experienced a similar rise under Bruce Pearl, who started in 2015 as well. Per Massey Composite:
2015 - 131
2016 - 179
2017 - 86
2018 - 21
2019 - 11
As has Tennessee, with Rick Barnes taking over in 2016:
2015 - 85
2016 - 110
2017 - 69
2018 - 14
2019 - 9
In addition to new coaches, Auburn and Houston's programs were bolstered by new arenas as well.
It's been fun watching Texas Tech the last few years and I believe Beard is just scratching the surface with 2 Elite 8's and a National Championship appearance.
No doubt Texas Tech and UH have the 2 best basketball programs in the state of Texas right now. Tech lost a ton from the 2018 team that made the Elite 8 but reloaded and played for a National Championship in 2019.
2019-2020 should be fun. Good luck to UH and Wreck Em Tech.
OT: Texas Tech and UH are fighting for a T&F National Championship in Austin tonight.
So you are guaranteeing a MBB National Championship? I think everyone will take that bet.
That Texas Tech played for a MBB National Championship in 2019??? Yes, I guarantee it but I hated the OT loss to Virginia.
I hope we can win the championship in 2020 which is the next time the game will be played. I think the Final 4 will be played in Atlanta.
RE: The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs - C2__ - 06-11-2019 02:13 AM
(06-07-2019 07:47 AM)MidWestMidMajor Wrote: The folks in Austin must be crying in their beer. Texas did win the NIT this year (with a memorable victory over Lipscomb). But they have been passed by Tech and Houston while watching the coach they fired light up Tennessee. They must be wondering when their $3.3 million contract with Shaka Smart will get them what they thought they were buying (NCAA victories, not NIT victories; conference championships, not participation ribbons). Shaka's best year at Texas was year #1 with Rick Barnes roster. If it wasn't for that $13 million buyout...
So memorable I remember nothing about it. Winning the NIT is worthless. Making it is all that really counts in the grand scheme of things.
Shaka Smart is the most overrated coach I can think of, he has yet to field an elite team. He rose to stardom with a mid-major fantasy that got hot in a tournament they didn't deserve to play in with his patented style. He's gotten away from that and now he sucks. Texas was a horrible fit, he should have gone to the ACC, Big East or Pac-12.
RE: The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs - AuzGrams - 06-11-2019 06:36 AM
Will Texas hang their NIT banner?
RE: The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs - Captain Bearcat - 06-11-2019 11:36 AM
I thought that one of the programs would be TCU.
If you don't count regional 3rd place games, TCU has won 2 NCAA tournament games. Before Dixon was hired, they hadn't been to the tourney in 20 years. Their all-time winning percentage is .466. By any metric, they're one of the worst 5 all-time P5 basketball programs.
And now Jamie Dixon has gotten them 67 wins over 3 years.
RE: The meteoric rise of two Texas basketball programs - NIU007 - 06-11-2019 03:27 PM
I thought meteors are pretty much always falling?
And now back to your regularly scheduled program.