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Obama admin corrupt or inept? - bullet - 05-21-2019 05:48 PM

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/444508-two-scenarios-on-trump-russia-investigators-and-neither-is-comforting

Corrupt or inept? I'm inclined to say both.

"As the investigations into the Trump-Russia investigation proceed, it’s not too difficult to figure out a few of the theoretical starting points.

The first and most obvious theory is the one largely promulgated in the media for the better part of two years. It goes something like this: The sharp, super-sleuth investigative skills of top officials within the Justice Department and our intel community enabled them to identify Donald Trump and his campaign as treacherous conduits to Russian President Vladimir Putin himself.

That theory was summarily dismissed by special counsel Robert Mueller’s conclusion that there wasn’t so much as even coordination between Russia and Trump, or any American. So that leaves several other possibilities … and none of them is good:..."


RE: Obama admin corrupt or inept? - Claw - 05-21-2019 05:55 PM

To say the Obama administration was inept is like saying Trump is stupid. Neither is the case and you need only look to see it.


RE: Obama admin corrupt or inept? - bullet - 05-21-2019 07:30 PM

(05-21-2019 05:55 PM)Claw Wrote:  To say the Obama administration was inept is like saying Trump is stupid. Neither is the case and you need only look to see it.

So do you have an example?

He couldn't get anything passed in Congress after healthcare, even with 60 votes in the Senate.

He had the first decline in life expectancy ever in America other than war or the flue pandemic.

He said there was nothing he could do about manufacturing and just watched it decline.

Average wages declined.

He put a bunch of corrupt morons all over his administration.


RE: Obama admin corrupt or inept? - Eagleaidaholic - 05-21-2019 07:53 PM

(05-21-2019 07:30 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(05-21-2019 05:55 PM)Claw Wrote:  To say the Obama administration was inept is like saying Trump is stupid. Neither is the case and you need only look to see it.

So do you have an example?

He couldn't get anything passed in Congress after healthcare, even with 60 votes in the Senate.

He had the first decline in life expectancy ever in America other than war or the flue pandemic.

He said there was nothing he could do about manufacturing and just watched it decline.

Average wages declined.

He put a bunch of corrupt morons all over his administration.
You make it sound like all those things were by accident. You cant have the country and its people thriving to implement Marxism.


Obama admin corrupt or inept? - Jjoey52 - 05-21-2019 09:54 PM

Totally corrupt, all the failures were used to gain more control. Obamacare was designed to fail, so they could implement single payer.


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RE: Obama admin corrupt or inept? - TigerBlue4Ever - 05-22-2019 07:10 AM

(05-21-2019 07:53 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
(05-21-2019 07:30 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(05-21-2019 05:55 PM)Claw Wrote:  To say the Obama administration was inept is like saying Trump is stupid. Neither is the case and you need only look to see it.

So do you have an example?

He couldn't get anything passed in Congress after healthcare, even with 60 votes in the Senate.

He had the first decline in life expectancy ever in America other than war or the flue pandemic.

He said there was nothing he could do about manufacturing and just watched it decline.

Average wages declined.

He put a bunch of corrupt morons all over his administration.
You make it sound like all those things were by accident. You cant have the country and its people thriving to implement Marxism.

Exactly right. It all went according to the playbook. The only thing that happened along the way to screw it up was Trump...


RE: Obama admin corrupt or inept? - SoMs Eagle - 05-22-2019 07:16 AM

(05-22-2019 07:10 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(05-21-2019 07:53 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
(05-21-2019 07:30 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(05-21-2019 05:55 PM)Claw Wrote:  To say the Obama administration was inept is like saying Trump is stupid. Neither is the case and you need only look to see it.

So do you have an example?

He couldn't get anything passed in Congress after healthcare, even with 60 votes in the Senate.

He had the first decline in life expectancy ever in America other than war or the flue pandemic.

He said there was nothing he could do about manufacturing and just watched it decline.

Average wages declined.

He put a bunch of corrupt morons all over his administration.
You make it sound like all those things were by accident. You cant have the country and its people thriving to implement Marxism.

Exactly right. It all went according to the playbook. The only thing that happened along the way to screw it up was Trump...


And there you have the genesis of the visceral hate from the left....


RE: Obama admin corrupt or inept? - B_Hawk06 - 05-22-2019 07:19 AM

Both. It depends on the department.

FBI: Corrupt
IRS: Corrupt
DOJ: Corrupt
DHS: Inept
Labor: Inept
Education: Inept

etc, etc, etc...


RE: Obama admin corrupt or inept? - Crebman - 05-22-2019 10:13 AM

Both.

Inept - not a leader when he won the office & never got any better at it in 8 years. Had an opportunity to be a uniting person, but chose instead to play the politics of division (IMO, played community organizer role rather than president role)

Corrupt - typical Democrat Chicago politics on a national level. He pretended to be ignorant of what those in his administration were doing (outside chance he was ignorant), but more likely knew but kept at arms length for the typical crooked politician plausible deniability.......

all in all - just an inept crooked politician that sucked at his job, but sounded good doing little to nothing.........


RE: Obama admin corrupt or inept? - Attackcoog - 05-22-2019 11:39 AM

(05-21-2019 05:48 PM)bullet Wrote:  https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/444508-two-scenarios-on-trump-russia-investigators-and-neither-is-comforting

Corrupt or inept? I'm inclined to say both.

"As the investigations into the Trump-Russia investigation proceed, it’s not too difficult to figure out a few of the theoretical starting points.

The first and most obvious theory is the one largely promulgated in the media for the better part of two years. It goes something like this: The sharp, super-sleuth investigative skills of top officials within the Justice Department and our intel community enabled them to identify Donald Trump and his campaign as treacherous conduits to Russian President Vladimir Putin himself.

That theory was summarily dismissed by special counsel Robert Mueller’s conclusion that there wasn’t so much as even coordination between Russia and Trump, or any American. So that leaves several other possibilities … and none of them is good:..."

Corrupt to the core. Zero surprise here. Obama is the product of the corrupt Chicago Machine Politics. The real surprise is they were able to keep such a huge corrupt and illegal operation under wraps for so long. Also, its sad to find that rather than the ethical career officials in government curbing the worse corrupt desires of the Obama administration---we are instead finding that many of the career law enforcement leaders jumped into a fraudulent and illegal plan with both feet. Very sad to see that behavior.


RE: Obama admin corrupt or inept? - 49RFootballNow - 05-22-2019 11:41 AM

Why does it have to be either-or, when it clearly was both?


RE: Obama admin corrupt or inept? - Owl 69/70/75 - 05-22-2019 12:54 PM

Yes to both.


RE: Obama admin corrupt or inept? - VA49er - 05-22-2019 01:12 PM

Yep, I'd go with they were ineptly corrupt.


RE: Obama admin corrupt or inept? - Machiavelli - 05-22-2019 01:15 PM

03-lmfao Projection at it's finest!!!! You guys never disappoint.......

So freaking funny..................

03-lmfao


RE: Obama admin corrupt or inept? - olliebaba - 05-22-2019 01:54 PM

There was this little girl with her mother and they were in a photography studio. The photographer was doing his business and the little girl asks. "what's he doing mama?" "Oh, he's gonna focus". The little turns around and asks the mother another question, "bofus mama?"

That's my answer: Bofus.


RE: Obama admin corrupt or inept? - No Bull - 05-22-2019 02:31 PM

(05-21-2019 05:48 PM)bullet Wrote:  https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/444508-two-scenarios-on-trump-russia-investigators-and-neither-is-comforting

Corrupt or inept? I'm inclined to say both.

"As the investigations into the Trump-Russia investigation proceed, it’s not too difficult to figure out a few of the theoretical starting points.

The first and most obvious theory is the one largely promulgated in the media for the better part of two years. It goes something like this: The sharp, super-sleuth investigative skills of top officials within the Justice Department and our intel community enabled them to identify Donald Trump and his campaign as treacherous conduits to Russian President Vladimir Putin himself.

That theory was summarily dismissed by special counsel Robert Mueller’s conclusion that there wasn’t so much as even coordination between Russia and Trump, or any American. So that leaves several other possibilities … and none of them is good:..."

I would describe the Obama administration as malevolent idiots...


RE: Obama admin corrupt or inept? - B_Hawk06 - 05-22-2019 02:41 PM

(05-22-2019 01:15 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  03-lmfao Projection at it's finest!!!! You guys never disappoint.......

So freaking funny..................

03-lmfao

Look who's back.

Find any collusion yet sweetheart?

07-coffee3


RE: Obama admin corrupt or inept? - 450bench - 05-22-2019 07:49 PM

Inept
Corrupt
Incompetent
Divisive
Laughable