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Say it ain't so Joe - Fort Bend Owl - 04-25-2019 06:20 AM
Joe Biden is in officially - think that makes #20 on the democratic side?
The Washington Post headline this morning - 'Is the new Democratic Party too woke to nominate Joe Biden?
I do think he has a chance to make some progress if he quickly aligns himself with one of the younger candidates as an early team. Maybe Joe and Pete?
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Say it ain't so Joe - fsquid - 04-25-2019 06:22 AM
He has the best chance of them to beat Trump and zero chance of winning his party's nomination.
He out two weeks after Super Tuesday unless he gets Hilary treatment
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RE: Say it ain't so Joe - stinkfist - 04-25-2019 06:28 AM
(04-25-2019 06:22 AM)fsquid Wrote: He has zero chance to beat Trump regardless if he gets the nomination
fify
RE: Say it ain't so Joe - Eagleaidaholic - 04-25-2019 06:55 AM
They will bring up his son's fortunes made via the Ukraine and China while he was VP and he will be done. They will eat each other up and it will be fun to watch.
Say it ain't so Joe - JMUDunk - 04-25-2019 07:25 AM
So,
Third times a charm for creepy joe?
Last run he was somewhere around 1%. Guess he’s somehow upped his game since then(?).
Biden
Bern
Beta
Buttagig
What do all these current frontrunners have in common for the whole “woke” idiots on the lunatic fringe?
I guess cause they all start with a B... something like that
RE: Say it ain't so Joe - bobdizole - 04-25-2019 07:32 AM
He is the only one that could stand a chance with the moderate swing states in middle America, and he stands zero chance of getting the nomination
RE: Say it ain't so Joe - Eldonabe - 04-25-2019 07:34 AM
I dunno.... If JB stays out of the "let's see who can out out-left each other" wrestling matches, I think he has a legit chance to knock these people out down the road. Despite the angry petulant millenials who are making all the noise right now, there are A LOT of older liberal Dems too who might pull a Trump-thing and just sit on the sidelines until some of the dust settles.
IMO JB did not get off to a good start though. These morons don't get it. Running on an anti-Trump platform will get them nowhere. They need to put some actual ideas and realistic goals in place rather than just say "don't vote for him - orange man bad"..... There are still too many people smart enough to see through the "get off my lawn" platform as smoke and mirrors.
RE: Say it ain't so Joe - fsquid - 04-25-2019 07:36 AM
(04-25-2019 06:28 AM)stinkfist Wrote:(04-25-2019 06:22 AM)fsquid Wrote: He has zero chance to beat Trump regardless if he gets the nomination
fify
Zero? He'd certainly do better than Hilary. The thing is he's going to get roasted about medicare for all and the new green deal.
I do agree with the previous poster, running anti-Trump will get you nowhere.
RE: Say it ain't so Joe - BadgerMJ - 04-25-2019 07:38 AM
(04-25-2019 06:22 AM)fsquid Wrote: He has the best chance of them to beat Trump and zero chance of winning his party's nomination.
He out two weeks after Super Tuesday unless he gets Hilary treatment
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Headline on Drudge....
SHOCK POLL: BIDEN OPENS 8-POINT LEAD ON TRUMP
https://morningconsult.com/2019/04/24/joe-biden-is-the-front-runner-over-democrats-and-donald-trump/
My thought was the same as yours. He has the best chance to beat Trump, but he'll NEVER get the nomination.
The last thing the progressive wing wants is to spend all it's time lecturing us on social justice and being woke then nominate an old straight white guy for President.
RE: Say it ain't so Joe - VA49er - 04-25-2019 07:40 AM
(04-25-2019 06:22 AM)fsquid Wrote: He has the best chance of them to beat Trump and zero chance of winning his party's nomination.
He out two weeks after Super Tuesday unless he gets Hilary treatment
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I was going to agree; however, Biden immediately played the race card. I guess that will flow with his supporters though.
RE: Say it ain't so Joe - bobdizole - 04-25-2019 07:42 AM
(04-25-2019 07:38 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:(04-25-2019 06:22 AM)fsquid Wrote: He has the best chance of them to beat Trump and zero chance of winning his party's nomination.
He out two weeks after Super Tuesday unless he gets Hilary treatment
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Headline on Drudge....
SHOCK POLL: BIDEN OPENS 8-POINT LEAD ON TRUMP
https://morningconsult.com/2019/04/24/joe-biden-is-the-front-runner-over-democrats-and-donald-trump/
My thought was the same as yours. He has the best chance to beat Trump, but he'll NEVER get the nomination.
The last thing the progressive wing wants is to spend all it's time lecturing us on social justice and being woke then nominate an old straight white guy for President.
Well going back to something I said a couple of weeks ago. The extremist personalities tend to be the loudest in volume but fewest in number. I'd be willing to bet the the vast majority of people that vote democratic are more center than progressive left. You'd never know that because MSM wants 24/7 AOC. Maybe if Joe can keep himself out of the muck, no scandles, the true democratic voters might come out in droves to support him in the primaries
RE: Say it ain't so Joe - fsquid - 04-25-2019 07:43 AM
(04-25-2019 07:40 AM)VA49er Wrote:(04-25-2019 06:22 AM)fsquid Wrote: He has the best chance of them to beat Trump and zero chance of winning his party's nomination.
He out two weeks after Super Tuesday unless he gets Hilary treatment
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I was going to agree; however, Biden immediately played the race card. I guess that will flow with his supporters though.
Maybe I missed it, I didn't see it as a race card. I saw it as a decency card. Unsure that plays well on that side either.
RE: Say it ain't so Joe - VA49er - 04-25-2019 07:46 AM
(04-25-2019 07:43 AM)fsquid Wrote:(04-25-2019 07:40 AM)VA49er Wrote:(04-25-2019 06:22 AM)fsquid Wrote: He has the best chance of them to beat Trump and zero chance of winning his party's nomination.
He out two weeks after Super Tuesday unless he gets Hilary treatment
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I was going to agree; however, Biden immediately played the race card. I guess that will flow with his supporters though.
Maybe I missed it, I didn't see it as a race card. I saw it as a decency card. Unsure that plays well on that side either.
The whole Charlottesville thing. I guess the D's will spin that as a decency thing. I was hoping Biden would not go that route.
RE: Say it ain't so Joe - SuperFlyBCat - 04-25-2019 07:47 AM
(04-25-2019 07:32 AM)bobdizole Wrote: He is the only one that could stand a chance with the moderate swing states in middle America, and he stands zero chance of getting the nomination
I think he has a good shot at the nomination.
RE: Say it ain't so Joe - bobdizole - 04-25-2019 07:53 AM
(04-25-2019 07:47 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:(04-25-2019 07:32 AM)bobdizole Wrote: He is the only one that could stand a chance with the moderate swing states in middle America, and he stands zero chance of getting the nomination
I think he has a good shot at the nomination.
I guess it depends on who wants it more. The reasonable, moderate democrats who want to defeat Trump or the progressive loons that want to introduce socialism that will never win anything off of the coasts.
RE: Say it ain't so Joe - fsquid - 04-25-2019 07:55 AM
I guess Biden supporters are hoping that the adage that young people don't vote holds true.
RE: Say it ain't so Joe - VA49er - 04-25-2019 08:05 AM
(04-25-2019 07:55 AM)fsquid Wrote: I guess Biden supporters are hoping that the adage that young people don't vote holds true.
Probably. For some reason the other D (warren, etc) are all in on the young vote. Those people shout from the rooftops yet for some reason don't show up on voting day., at least not historically.
RE: Say it ain't so Joe - SoMs Eagle - 04-25-2019 08:17 AM
(04-25-2019 07:42 AM)bobdizole Wrote:(04-25-2019 07:38 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:(04-25-2019 06:22 AM)fsquid Wrote: He has the best chance of them to beat Trump and zero chance of winning his party's nomination.
He out two weeks after Super Tuesday unless he gets Hilary treatment
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Headline on Drudge....
SHOCK POLL: BIDEN OPENS 8-POINT LEAD ON TRUMP
https://morningconsult.com/2019/04/24/joe-biden-is-the-front-runner-over-democrats-and-donald-trump/
My thought was the same as yours. He has the best chance to beat Trump, but he'll NEVER get the nomination.
The last thing the progressive wing wants is to spend all it's time lecturing us on social justice and being woke then nominate an old straight white guy for President.
Well going back to something I said a couple of weeks ago. The extremist personalities tend to be the loudest in volume but fewest in number. I'd be willing to bet the the vast majority of people that vote democratic are more center than progressive left. You'd never know that because MSM wants 24/7 AOC. Maybe if Joe can keep himself out of the muck, no scandles, the true democratic voters might come out in droves to support him in the primaries
You’re on to something. The only problem being no way ‘foot in mouth’ stays scandal free for seven days straight.
RE: Say it ain't so Joe - BadgerMJ - 04-25-2019 08:18 AM
(04-25-2019 07:42 AM)bobdizole Wrote:(04-25-2019 07:38 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:(04-25-2019 06:22 AM)fsquid Wrote: He has the best chance of them to beat Trump and zero chance of winning his party's nomination.
He out two weeks after Super Tuesday unless he gets Hilary treatment
Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
Headline on Drudge....
SHOCK POLL: BIDEN OPENS 8-POINT LEAD ON TRUMP
https://morningconsult.com/2019/04/24/joe-biden-is-the-front-runner-over-democrats-and-donald-trump/
My thought was the same as yours. He has the best chance to beat Trump, but he'll NEVER get the nomination.
The last thing the progressive wing wants is to spend all it's time lecturing us on social justice and being woke then nominate an old straight white guy for President.
Well going back to something I said a couple of weeks ago. The extremist personalities tend to be the loudest in volume but fewest in number. I'd be willing to bet the the vast majority of people that vote democratic are more center than progressive left. You'd never know that because MSM wants 24/7 AOC. Maybe if Joe can keep himself out of the muck, no scandles, the true democratic voters might come out in droves to support him in the primaries
Depends on the state I guess.
The moderates might prevail in a state like Iowa, but here in Wisconsin, the demmies go as Dane County goes, and Dane County is UBER leftist.
As you also pointed out, the MSM wants AOC to be the face of the "movement". Can't imagine they wouldn't try and torpedo Biden at every opportunity.
RE: Say it ain't so Joe - SuperFlyBCat - 04-25-2019 08:18 AM
(04-25-2019 07:53 AM)bobdizole Wrote:Although Biden is gaffe machine he will look like an actual adult in debates. He can toss around enough free stuff ideas, and then bury the rest of them on Foreign policy. Even if his positions on FP are less than desirable he knows most of the world leaders on a first name basis. He can talk about being in this country, knowing all of these Presidents, when I was VP we killed more terrorists than anyone blah blah.(04-25-2019 07:47 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:(04-25-2019 07:32 AM)bobdizole Wrote: He is the only one that could stand a chance with the moderate swing states in middle America, and he stands zero chance of getting the nomination
I think he has a good shot at the nomination.
I guess it depends on who wants it more. The reasonable, moderate democrats who want to defeat Trump or the progressive loons that want to introduce socialism that will never win anything off of the coasts.