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Grizz need to draft Tacko Fall if he is available - ericsrevenge76 - 03-25-2019 05:04 AM
He has really become a smart and skilled player for 7-6.
IMO he is going to be a better NBA player than college in the long run because he will not get called for a foul every time he raises his arms in the air and will have much more room to operate and use his growing skill set.
He may struggle early on with the transition, but if he stays healthy I think he has much more upside then most players his size.
I suspect some posters head will explode for me posting this, so have at me. lol
RE: Grizz need to draft Tacko Fall if he is available - Fluke - 03-25-2019 05:08 AM
This would be on the level of hasheem thabeet. Probably worse. The dude is old to have much more development. I don’t see any skill with him. He still just dunks the ball and isn’t athletic.
RE: Grizz need to draft Tacko Fall if he is available - ericsrevenge76 - 03-25-2019 05:15 AM
(03-25-2019 05:08 AM)Fluke Wrote: This would be on the level of hasheem thabeet. Probably worse. The dude is old to have much more development. I don’t see any skill with him. He still just dunks the ball and isn’t athletic.
He is a projected 2nd rounder, so we are not talking about a lottery pick here.
He is more than worth a 2nd round pick imo. Most 2nd rounders don't pan out anyway for the team that drafts them.
But as I said I expect several negative reactions to this thread.
You can' t teach 7-6, and he looks like a better athlete and has better skills than most players his size.
RE: Grizz need to draft Tacko Fall if he is available - MemphisTigerPawr - 03-25-2019 07:54 AM
The Grizzlies don't have any second round picks. Wallace dealt them away for Holiday, our missing piece, so we could make the playoffs this year.
RE: Grizz need to draft Tacko Fall if he is available - BinghamptonNed - 03-25-2019 08:17 AM
(03-25-2019 07:54 AM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote: The Grizzlies don't have any second round picks. Wallace dealt them away for Holiday, our missing piece, so we could make the playoffs this year.
It's comical anyone thinks Chris Wallace is making decisions anymore...
------ Fishman
RE: Grizz need to draft Tacko Fall if he is available - mairving - 03-25-2019 08:20 AM
(03-25-2019 05:04 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: He has really become a smart and skilled player for 7-6.
IMO he is going to be a better NBA player than college in the long run because he will not get called for a foul every time he raises his arms in the air and will have much more room to operate and use his growing skill set.
He may struggle early on with the transition, but if he stays healthy I think he has much more upside then most players his size.
I suspect some posters head will explode for me posting this, so have at me. lol
Are you really being serious? He's 7'6" and averaged 11 points and 7 rebounds per game in college. Plus he makes Shaq look like a good free throw shooter.
RE: Grizz need to draft Tacko Fall if he is available - tigers0830 - 03-25-2019 08:22 AM
(03-25-2019 08:17 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:(03-25-2019 07:54 AM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote: The Grizzlies don't have any second round picks. Wallace dealt them away for Holiday, our missing piece, so we could make the playoffs this year.
It's comical anyone thinks Chris Wallace is making decisions anymore...
------ Fishman
He's right you know. Wallace isn't making the decisions anymore. He's just a face.
RE: Grizz need to draft Tacko Fall if he is available - ericsrevenge76 - 03-25-2019 08:38 AM
(03-25-2019 07:54 AM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote: The Grizzlies don't have any second round picks. Wallace dealt them away for Holiday, our missing piece, so we could make the playoffs this year.
That is easily remedied with another trade. Of course we don't even need a pick, we could just trade for him after he is drafted in some kind of package or 3 team multiplayer thing.
RE: Grizz need to draft Tacko Fall if he is available - ericsrevenge76 - 03-25-2019 08:39 AM
(03-25-2019 08:20 AM)mairving Wrote:(03-25-2019 05:04 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: He has really become a smart and skilled player for 7-6.
IMO he is going to be a better NBA player than college in the long run because he will not get called for a foul every time he raises his arms in the air and will have much more room to operate and use his growing skill set.
He may struggle early on with the transition, but if he stays healthy I think he has much more upside then most players his size.
I suspect some posters head will explode for me posting this, so have at me. lol
Are you really being serious? He's 7'6" and averaged 11 points and 7 rebounds per game in college. Plus he makes Shaq look like a good free throw shooter.
Yes, I am serious. Fall had a major impact in the Duke game Sunday and basically shut down or altered much of Zion's penetration and rim domination. Zion is so talented he used his outside shooting and carefully picked his spots to drive inside late and create contact. But anyone who watched the game can't deny the overwhelming impact Fall had when he was on the floor. UFC should have won the game, and likely lose by 20+ points without Fall. Every single time he sat down, Duke went on a run. Every time he came in the game changed. Duke shot the 3 better than normal which saved them. They are actually a poor 3pt shooting team, but shot it well Sunday.
Most 2nd round picks don't pan out anyway so its worth considering imo.
Obviously we disagree
RE: Grizz need to draft Tacko Fall if he is available - Poolshrk111 - 03-25-2019 09:06 AM
Duke obviously didn't watch our two home games against them. Penny had them pegged.
RE: Grizz need to draft Tacko Fall if he is available - ericsrevenge76 - 03-25-2019 09:11 AM
(03-25-2019 09:06 AM)Poolshrk111 Wrote: Duke obviously didn't watch our two home games against them. Penny had them pegged.
My thoughts exactly during that game.
Penny and the staff really game planned them well.
RE: Grizz need to draft Tacko Fall if he is available - memtigbb - 03-25-2019 09:12 AM
(03-25-2019 08:22 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:(03-25-2019 08:17 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:(03-25-2019 07:54 AM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote: The Grizzlies don't have any second round picks. Wallace dealt them away for Holiday, our missing piece, so we could make the playoffs this year.
It's comical anyone thinks Chris Wallace is making decisions anymore...
------ Fishman
He's right you know. Wallace isn't making the decisions anymore. He's just a face.
So how many millions is he being paid to be a face? And if he is making that kind of money just to be a face, why hasn't he been fired?
I have to think if it were that bad, they would simply fire him.
RE: Grizz need to draft Tacko Fall if he is available - mairving - 03-25-2019 09:23 AM
(03-25-2019 09:06 AM)Poolshrk111 Wrote: Duke obviously didn't watch our two home games against them. Penny had them pegged.
It's not Fall that beats you. It's paying too much attention to him and letting Dawkins and Taylor beat you.
RE: Grizz need to draft Tacko Fall if he is available - Tigx - 03-25-2019 09:36 AM
I don't think it will take a 2nd rounder, because Taco probably doesn't get drafted. He is not on this 100 man Big Board: https://www.nbadraft.net/ranking/bigboard
Or this top 75 man CBS board: https://www.cbssports.com/nba/draft/prospect-rankings/
Taco did have an effect on yesterday's game, but the NBA and college games are much different. Taco is allowed in college to just stand in a 12 foot lane and wait for players to drive into him. Even on the play Taco fouled out on, Zion drove past his man and into Taco. The lane in the NBA is 16 feet wide, and you can't just stand there because of the defensive 3 second rule. And NBA teams will switch smaller players on to Taco, forcing Taco to guard them in space, which probably won't end well for him.
Anyway, some team will probably invite him to camp after the draft, giving him a chance to make a G-League team. If not, he can play overseas.
RE: Grizz need to draft Tacko Fall if he is available - ericsrevenge76 - 03-25-2019 09:55 AM
(03-25-2019 09:36 AM)Tigx Wrote: I don't think it will take a 2nd rounder, because Taco probably doesn't get drafted. He is not on this 100 man Big Board: https://www.nbadraft.net/ranking/bigboard
Or this top 75 man CBS board: https://www.cbssports.com/nba/draft/prospect-rankings/
Taco did have an effect on yesterday's game, but the NBA and college games are much different. Taco is allowed in college to just stand in a 12 foot lane and wait for players to drive into him. Even on the play Taco fouled out on, Zion drove past his man and into Taco. The lane in the NBA is 16 feet wide, and you can't just stand there because of the defensive 3 second rule. And NBA teams will switch smaller players on to Taco, forcing Taco to guard them in space, which probably won't end well for him.
Anyway, some team will probably invite him to camp after the draft, giving him a chance to make a G-League team. If not, he can play overseas.
I imagine his draft value will change quite a bit after the whole nation got a look at him against Zion and Duke.
That one game dramatically changed my opinion of him. A lot of talking heads were saying the same thing post game.
RE: Grizz need to draft Tacko Fall if he is available - ksigtigerdood - 03-25-2019 12:16 PM
(03-25-2019 09:12 AM)memtigbb Wrote:(03-25-2019 08:22 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:(03-25-2019 08:17 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:(03-25-2019 07:54 AM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote: The Grizzlies don't have any second round picks. Wallace dealt them away for Holiday, our missing piece, so we could make the playoffs this year.
It's comical anyone thinks Chris Wallace is making decisions anymore...
------ Fishman
He's right you know. Wallace isn't making the decisions anymore. He's just a face.
So how many millions is he being paid to be a face? And if he is making that kind of money just to be a face, why hasn't he been fired?
I have to think if it were that bad, they would simply fire him.
They've already done it once. Wallace was essentially pushed to the side for a couple years while Levien was with the Grizz. I anticipate Wallace will be let go in the offseason.
RE: Grizz need to draft Tacko Fall if he is available - MemphisTigerPawr - 03-25-2019 03:17 PM
(03-25-2019 12:16 PM)ksigtigerdood Wrote:I hope so.(03-25-2019 09:12 AM)memtigbb Wrote:(03-25-2019 08:22 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:(03-25-2019 08:17 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:(03-25-2019 07:54 AM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote: The Grizzlies don't have any second round picks. Wallace dealt them away for Holiday, our missing piece, so we could make the playoffs this year.
It's comical anyone thinks Chris Wallace is making decisions anymore...
------ Fishman
He's right you know. Wallace isn't making the decisions anymore. He's just a face.
So how many millions is he being paid to be a face? And if he is making that kind of money just to be a face, why hasn't he been fired?
I have to think if it were that bad, they would simply fire him.
They've already done it once. Wallace was essentially pushed to the side for a couple years while Levien was with the Grizz. I anticipate Wallace will be let go in the offseason.
RE: Grizz need to draft Tacko Fall if he is available - tigers0830 - 03-25-2019 03:41 PM
(03-25-2019 03:17 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:(03-25-2019 12:16 PM)ksigtigerdood Wrote:I hope so.(03-25-2019 09:12 AM)memtigbb Wrote:(03-25-2019 08:22 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:(03-25-2019 08:17 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote: It's comical anyone thinks Chris Wallace is making decisions anymore...
------ Fishman
He's right you know. Wallace isn't making the decisions anymore. He's just a face.
So how many millions is he being paid to be a face? And if he is making that kind of money just to be a face, why hasn't he been fired?
I have to think if it were that bad, they would simply fire him.
They've already done it once. Wallace was essentially pushed to the side for a couple years while Levien was with the Grizz. I anticipate Wallace will be let go in the offseason.
Nobody knows why he still has a job.
RE: Grizz need to draft Tacko Fall if he is available - tigers0830 - 03-25-2019 03:46 PM
(03-25-2019 09:11 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:(03-25-2019 09:06 AM)Poolshrk111 Wrote: Duke obviously didn't watch our two home games against them. Penny had them pegged.
My thoughts exactly during that game.
Penny and the staff really game planned them well.
Difference Duke is awful from the 3. Tacko could literally just stay in the pain and not guard any of their guys outside the arc. Perfect game plan for Dawkins.
Against us we had a guys who were a threat to shoot and make 3's so much harder for Dawkins to have Tacko just stay in the paint.
What Penny and staff did a great job of was making anyone but Taylor or Dawkins beat them.