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That did not take long - Old Dominion - 11-25-2018 03:21 PM
Nagy and crew out along with Malone.See ODUsports page
RE: That did not take long - Gilesfan - 11-25-2018 03:27 PM
Yep. Those are the ones I expected. Heard issues with Malone, FWIW.
RE: That did not take long - CalODUFan - 11-25-2018 03:34 PM
They fired the right coaches on Defense and kept Commissiong which is good. Firing Malone was excellent but huge mistake letting Wilder's crony Brian Scott survive. The offensive playbook needs a major overhaul.
RE: That did not take long - ODUDJ96 - 11-25-2018 03:51 PM
Not surprising. It’s a decision that will keep the dogs at bay for now.
RE: That did not take long - Grommet - 11-25-2018 03:53 PM
The Circle of Trust hasn't been breached. SSDY in 2019.
RE: That did not take long - DaBigBlue - 11-25-2018 03:58 PM
(11-25-2018 03:53 PM)Grommet Wrote: The Circle of Trust hasn't been breached. SSDY in 2019.
Lol, was thinking the same.
RE: That did not take long - GotLabradors - 11-25-2018 04:00 PM
As long as Scott and Whitcomb remain, so does the current philosophy/thought process.
RE: That did not take long - Gilesfan - 11-25-2018 04:39 PM
The one year they hd a solid defense, they won 10 games (including a bowl game). They were blowing people out. They have consistently put out really good offenses from the start. A decent defense would go a long way; hopefully they find the right guy.
RE: That did not take long - ODUalum78 - 11-25-2018 04:46 PM
(11-25-2018 04:00 PM)GotLabradors Wrote: As long as Scott and Whitcomb remain, so does the current philosophy/thought process.
agreed
RE: That did not take long - odufansam - 11-25-2018 04:56 PM
(11-25-2018 04:39 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: The one year they hd a solid defense, they won 10 games (including a bowl game). They were blowing people out. They have consistently put out really good offenses from the start. A decent defense would go a long way; hopefully they find the right guy.
My only complaint against the offense the past two seasons has been the offensive line. You cannot have a consistently good offense when you cannot run the ball. We have to recruit better and develop that talent. There’s way too much pressure on the QB. We should have run all over Liberty.
RE: That did not take long - ODUalum78 - 11-25-2018 05:03 PM
(11-25-2018 04:39 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: The one year they hd a solid defense, they won 10 games (including a bowl game). They were blowing people out. They have consistently put out really good offenses from the start. A decent defense would go a long way; hopefully they find the right guy.
I am not sure that I would describe the 2016 defense as "solid".
Total defense was 96th in the Nation and more importantly 4th worst in CUSA , against arguably the easiest schedule (relatively) we faced since 2009.
Our blowouts were a result of David Washington and an anomalous schedule.
We beat EMU by 4, and they were arguably the weakest FBS team to receive a bowl bid.
RE: That did not take long - AimHigher - 11-25-2018 05:13 PM
I've got to believe this is the first of two waves of firings that will happen to this staff. Remember once the ink dried on national signing day he fired both coach Zyskowski and Dee in 2016.
RE: That did not take long - Brackintology - 11-25-2018 05:20 PM
(11-25-2018 05:13 PM)AimHigh Wrote: I've got to believe this is the first of two waves of firings that will happen to this staff. Remember once the ink dried on national signing day he fired both coach Zyskowski and Dee in 2016.
If I’m not mistaken, Buggs was Recruiting coordinator like Zyskowski was, so I don’t anticipate any more changes, unless someone does something away from football that warrants firing.
RE: That did not take long - ODUalum78 - 11-25-2018 05:31 PM
(11-25-2018 05:20 PM)Brackintology Wrote:(11-25-2018 05:13 PM)AimHigh Wrote: I've got to believe this is the first of two waves of firings that will happen to this staff. Remember once the ink dried on national signing day he fired both coach Zyskowski and Dee in 2016.
If I’m not mistaken, Buggs was Recruiting coordinator like Zyskowski was, so I don’t anticipate any more changes, unless someone does something away from football that warrants firing.
John Allen has been a bright spot on the staff and may well be a good fit for RC
However, the line
Quote: ODU ranks ninth in Conference USA games in rushing offensemay be a precursor to more changes.
RE: That did not take long - Gilesfan - 11-25-2018 05:36 PM
(11-25-2018 05:03 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:(11-25-2018 04:39 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: The one year they hd a solid defense, they won 10 games (including a bowl game). They were blowing people out. They have consistently put out really good offenses from the start. A decent defense would go a long way; hopefully they find the right guy.
I am not sure that I would describe the 2016 defense as "solid".
Total defense was 96th in the Nation and more importantly 4th worst in CUSA , against arguably the easiest schedule (relatively) we faced since 2009.
Our blowouts were a result of David Washington and an anomalous schedule.
We beat EMU by 4, and they were arguably the weakest FBS team to receive a bowl bid.
They were ranked in the 60s based on footballoutsiders. That is good. Total defense is a meaningless stat that doesnt account for garbage time stats.
RE: That did not take long - Gilesfan - 11-25-2018 05:37 PM
(11-25-2018 05:13 PM)AimHigh Wrote: I've got to believe this is the first of two waves of firings that will happen to this staff. Remember once the ink dried on national signing day he fired both coach Zyskowski and Dee in 2016.
I would be surprised. They already made changes to recruiting coordinator so no reason to wait.
RE: That did not take long - Old Dominion - 11-25-2018 05:41 PM
(11-25-2018 04:46 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:(11-25-2018 04:00 PM)GotLabradors Wrote: As long as Scott and Whitcomb remain, so does the current philosophy/thought process.
agreed
I don't know. Could you make the argument that BW controls Scott's decision making? What if the lack of creativity is more a function of a very stubborn head coach unwilling to listen to his Coordinators?
We are coming up on our 4th DC. If we continue to see a below standard defense, I think we'll know where the problem lies.
RE: That did not take long - The Doctor Is In - 11-25-2018 05:46 PM
Recruiting coordinator position is listed at $58K
RE: That did not take long - ODUalum78 - 11-25-2018 05:58 PM
(11-25-2018 05:41 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:(11-25-2018 04:46 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:(11-25-2018 04:00 PM)GotLabradors Wrote: As long as Scott and Whitcomb remain, so does the current philosophy/thought process.
agreed
I don't know. Could you make the argument that BW controls Scott's decision making? What if the lack of creativity is more a function of a very stubborn head coach unwilling to listen to his Coordinators?
We are coming up on our 4th DC. If we continue to see a below standard defense, I think we'll know where the problem lies.
If that is really the case, it won't matter who the replacements are
RE: That did not take long - ODUDJ96 - 11-25-2018 06:09 PM
(11-25-2018 05:46 PM)The Doctor Is In Wrote: Recruiting coordinator position is listed at $58K
Hopefully, the position will receive a raise. $58K is entry level and doesn’t go far.