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RE: 2018/2019 College Football Coaching Carousel - Racinejake - 11-30-2018 02:30 PM
(11-30-2018 02:16 PM)Marcus Wrote:(11-30-2018 12:26 PM)Crewdogz Wrote:(11-30-2018 11:13 AM)CoachFickFan Wrote: https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/College-football-coaching-changes-2018--125373815/#125373815_1
Butch Jones is considered a favorite to be East Carolina coach.
Central Michigan went in a different direction.
This is great news ---- for the Bearcats.
I'm not so sure, I think Lyle will do well there and he will be back here recruiting.
I don't think he'd have much success at all recruiting this area, unless it's guys nobody else wants.
I'd be curious to see who he fills his staff out with. Maybe he pulls Bajakian back in as OC. Butch has always been a pretty good recruiter. I don't see him having success in Ohio, nor would I expect him to try to spend much time in this area. I'd think he'd be trying to sell ECU as a legit competitor to UNC/NC State (ECU has had some success against both on the field) and ahead of Duke/Wake in the state of NC. And that could extend to recruits in VA and SC but I'm guessing he'd also recruit Florida hard also.
RE: 2018/2019 College Football Coaching Carousel - Marcus - 11-30-2018 02:36 PM
(11-30-2018 02:30 PM)Racinejake Wrote:(11-30-2018 02:16 PM)Marcus Wrote:(11-30-2018 12:26 PM)Crewdogz Wrote:(11-30-2018 11:13 AM)CoachFickFan Wrote: https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/College-football-coaching-changes-2018--125373815/#125373815_1
Butch Jones is considered a favorite to be East Carolina coach.
Central Michigan went in a different direction.
This is great news ---- for the Bearcats.
I'm not so sure, I think Lyle will do well there and he will be back here recruiting.
I don't think he'd have much success at all recruiting this area, unless it's guys nobody else wants.
I'd be curious to see who he fills his staff out with. Maybe he pulls Bajakian back in as OC. Butch has always been a pretty good recruiter. I don't see him having success in Ohio, nor would I expect him to try to spend much time in this area. I'd think he'd be trying to sell ECU as a legit competitor to UNC/NC State (ECU has had some success against both on the field) and ahead of Duke/Wake in the state of NC. And that could extend to recruits in VA and SC but I'm guessing he'd also recruit Florida hard also.
I think he'd struggle to recruit in any of the geographic areas he's recruited in the past. He tends to leave those areas with a really poor reputation for being upright and honest with kids, their families and the local high school coaches. Like you said, NC, FL and maybe parts of VA and SC would be the areas he'd target.
RE: 2018/2019 College Football Coaching Carousel - Marcus - 11-30-2018 02:40 PM
(11-30-2018 12:01 PM)CliftonAve Wrote: Per FootballScoop, Ryan Day to be named Coach-In-Waiting. Urban to step down after 2019."
http://footballscoop.com/news/source-ohio-state-expects-retain-ryan-day-oh-urban/
I'm surprised Urban is going to coach next year. He looks absolutely awful on the sidelines. I'd be surprised if that time table doesn't get moved up at some point.
RE: 2018/2019 College Football Coaching Carousel - Marcus - 11-30-2018 02:42 PM
(11-30-2018 09:22 AM)marcuscan Wrote:(11-30-2018 08:37 AM)CliftonAve Wrote: TBH I never was impressed with Miles’ coaching chops. He won at LSU because of talent, and any Tom, Dick or Harry can recruit to LSU. With the talent they had he should have won 4 NC’s at the minimum. I can’t tell you how many times he snagged defeat from the jaws of victory at LSU due to poor play calling, in-game management, clock management, etc.
He’s not going to have the talent to bail him out this time.
The word is he's having a harder time than he anticipated attracting assistant coaches. It feels like he leaped before he looked. As someone else noted, GTech, and Maryland, feel like better places to land.
so not only is he NOT going to have the talent, he's now also unlikely to have elite assistant coaches surrounding him at KU.
mc
I'm not surprised at all he is struggling to get interest. Kansas is an absolute graveyard for football. It's probably the worst overall job in the P5 and far worse than several non P5 jobs. He was an underachiever at LSU, I imagine this experiment is going to be really ugly.
RE: 2018/2019 College Football Coaching Carousel - TubaCat - 11-30-2018 02:47 PM
(11-30-2018 02:42 PM)Marcus Wrote:(11-30-2018 09:22 AM)marcuscan Wrote:(11-30-2018 08:37 AM)CliftonAve Wrote: TBH I never was impressed with Miles’ coaching chops. He won at LSU because of talent, and any Tom, Dick or Harry can recruit to LSU. With the talent they had he should have won 4 NC’s at the minimum. I can’t tell you how many times he snagged defeat from the jaws of victory at LSU due to poor play calling, in-game management, clock management, etc.
He’s not going to have the talent to bail him out this time.
The word is he's having a harder time than he anticipated attracting assistant coaches. It feels like he leaped before he looked. As someone else noted, GTech, and Maryland, feel like better places to land.
so not only is he NOT going to have the talent, he's now also unlikely to have elite assistant coaches surrounding him at KU.
mc
I'm not surprised at all he is struggling to get interest. Kansas is an absolute graveyard for football. It's probably the worst overall job in the P5 and far worse than several non P5 jobs. He was an underachiever at LSU, I imagine this experiment is going to be really ugly.
On 3rd and long you should pass, on 3rd and short you should run... unless you want to try something tricky. I think I have this offensive coordinator thing down. I'll send him my resumé, and only ask for $100k per year. That's a steal for a P5 offensive coordinator!
RE: 2018/2019 College Football Coaching Carousel - Def Berkkat - 11-30-2018 02:49 PM
(11-30-2018 02:42 PM)Marcus Wrote:(11-30-2018 09:22 AM)marcuscan Wrote:(11-30-2018 08:37 AM)CliftonAve Wrote: TBH I never was impressed with Miles’ coaching chops. He won at LSU because of talent, and any Tom, Dick or Harry can recruit to LSU. With the talent they had he should have won 4 NC’s at the minimum. I can’t tell you how many times he snagged defeat from the jaws of victory at LSU due to poor play calling, in-game management, clock management, etc.
He’s not going to have the talent to bail him out this time.
The word is he's having a harder time than he anticipated attracting assistant coaches. It feels like he leaped before he looked. As someone else noted, GTech, and Maryland, feel like better places to land.
so not only is he NOT going to have the talent, he's now also unlikely to have elite assistant coaches surrounding him at KU.
mc
I'm not surprised at all he is struggling to get interest. Kansas is an absolute graveyard for football. It's probably the worst overall job in the P5 and far worse than several non P5 jobs. He was an underachiever at LSU, I imagine this experiment is going to be really ugly.
Plus, he got out there and found they don't have extra large caps in Kansas.
RE: 2018/2019 College Football Coaching Carousel - marcuscan - 11-30-2018 11:01 PM
Looks like ECU might have acted juuuuuust fast enough to prevent Houston from going to Charlotte after all.
http://footballscoop.com/news/update-charlottes-head-coaching-search/
mc
RE: 2018/2019 College Football Coaching Carousel - UCGrad1992 - 12-01-2018 10:05 AM
(11-30-2018 02:42 PM)Marcus Wrote: I'm not surprised at all he is struggling to get interest. Kansas is an absolute graveyard for football. It's probably the worst overall job in the P5 and far worse than several non P5 jobs. He was an underachiever at LSU, I imagine this experiment is going to be really ugly.
Oh, look! There's the Kansas sign Les...
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RE: 2018/2019 College Football Coaching Carousel - marcuscan - 12-01-2018 01:42 PM
UGA's Mel Tucker appears to be the emerging favorite at Colorado
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25423832/mel-tucker-georgia-bulldogs-defensive-coordinator-considered-top-candidate-colorado-buffaloes-coach
mc
RE: 2018/2019 College Football Coaching Carousel - Banter - 12-02-2018 04:59 PM
Bill Snyder at KSU has retired
RE: 2018/2019 College Football Coaching Carousel - jarr - 12-02-2018 05:52 PM
(12-02-2018 04:59 PM)Banter Wrote: Bill Snyder at KSU has retired
Hasn't that guy already retired once or twice. Very underrated coach for what he did there. Look for KSU to make a run at Venables (KSU grad) and Kansas native.
RE: 2018/2019 College Football Coaching Carousel - JackieTreehorn - 12-02-2018 05:58 PM
(12-02-2018 04:59 PM)Banter Wrote: Bill Snyder at KSU has retired
Straight from the sidelines to the nursing home....
RE: 2018/2019 College Football Coaching Carousel - SuperFlyBCat - 12-02-2018 06:07 PM
(12-02-2018 05:52 PM)jarr Wrote:(12-02-2018 04:59 PM)Banter Wrote: Bill Snyder at KSU has retired
Hasn't that guy already retired once or twice. Very underrated coach for what he did there. Look for KSU to make a run at Venables (KSU grad) and Kansas native.
KState has never been even decent without him as HC. Snyder retired after 05', and Ron Prince went 9-15.
RE: 2018/2019 College Football Coaching Carousel - RealDeal - 12-02-2018 07:27 PM
Venables may be a grad but if he wants to be a HC he could do way better than that. Brohm just turned down his alma mater and Venables should do the same.
RE: 2018/2019 College Football Coaching Carousel - Bearcat2012 - 12-03-2018 09:32 AM
Colorado: Mike MacIntyre ->
North Carolina: Larry Fedora -> Mack Brown
Maryland: DJ Durkin ->
Louisville: Bobby Petrino ->
Texas Tech: Kliff Kingsbury -> Matt Wells
Kansas: David Beatty -> Les Miles
Georgia Tech : Paul Johnson - >
Kansas State : Bill Snyder ->
Western Kentucky: Mike Sanford -> Tyson Helton
Massachusetts: Mark Whipple ->
Charlotte: Brad Lambert ->
Texas State: Everett Withers -> Jake Spavital
Bowling Green: Mike Jinks -> Scot Loeffler
Central Michigan: John Bonamego -> Jim McElwain
East Carolina: Scottie Montgomery -> Mike Houston
Utah State: Matt Wells ->
Akron : Terry Bowden ->
Think this covers the weekend activity .
Sure or almost sure things (indicated above)
1. Bill Snyder , Kansas State retires
2. Michigan Asst Jim McElwain to Central Michigan
3. Mike Houston (JMU) to ECU
4. Terry Bowden out at Akron
Probable
1. Mel Tucker (Georgia DC) to Colorado
2. Gary Anderson (Utah Asst) to Utah State
Hot off the Rumor mill this morning .
1. Louisville interviewed App State’s Scott Satterfield over the weekend and will interview Maryland Interim HC , Mike Canada today . – per football scoop
RE: 2018/2019 College Football Coaching Carousel - Marcus - 12-03-2018 09:52 AM
(12-02-2018 07:27 PM)RealDeal Wrote: Venables may be a grad but if he wants to be a HC he could do way better than that. Brohm just turned down his alma mater and Venables should do the same.
Venables has turned down a bunch of jobs over the years. Supposedly he has no interest in becoming a head coach. Kind of strange, but that's what I've always heard.
RE: 2018/2019 College Football Coaching Carousel - CliftonAve - 12-03-2018 09:59 AM
Have to think Jim Leavitt will be a leader for the vacant K-State job. Leavitt was an assistant there back in the 90s and his name has been rumored as Snyder's heir apparent several times in the past.
RE: 2018/2019 College Football Coaching Carousel - JackieTreehorn - 12-03-2018 10:24 AM
(12-03-2018 09:59 AM)CliftonAve Wrote: Have to think Jim Leavitt will be a leader for the vacant K-State job. Leavitt was an assistant there back in the 90s and his name has been rumored as Snyder's heir apparent several times in the past.
Do the KSU players need some good choking and slapping?
RE: 2018/2019 College Football Coaching Carousel - Captain Bearcat - 12-03-2018 11:18 AM
(12-03-2018 09:52 AM)Marcus Wrote:(12-02-2018 07:27 PM)RealDeal Wrote: Venables may be a grad but if he wants to be a HC he could do way better than that. Brohm just turned down his alma mater and Venables should do the same.
Venables has turned down a bunch of jobs over the years. Supposedly he has no interest in becoming a head coach. Kind of strange, but that's what I've always heard.
Maybe he knows his skillset, and maybe he doesn't want to make the same mistake Jeff Quinn did.
RE: 2018/2019 College Football Coaching Carousel - bearcatmark - 12-03-2018 11:23 AM
(12-03-2018 11:18 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:(12-03-2018 09:52 AM)Marcus Wrote:(12-02-2018 07:27 PM)RealDeal Wrote: Venables may be a grad but if he wants to be a HC he could do way better than that. Brohm just turned down his alma mater and Venables should do the same.
Venables has turned down a bunch of jobs over the years. Supposedly he has no interest in becoming a head coach. Kind of strange, but that's what I've always heard.
Maybe he knows his skillset, and maybe he doesn't want to make the same mistake Jeff Quinn did.
Who knows if he ever decides to give it a shot. Bud Foster would have been a hot commodity for so many years, but was comfortable in his DC role with VT. There is something to be said for the stability of a great situation. You don't see it often in this profession, but a few guys seem to really value that.