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RE: Detroit Lions - Hiller4Hyz09 - 09-16-2018 05:23 PM
Matt Breida still doing his thing.
RE: Detroit Lions - bronconick - 09-16-2018 06:34 PM
Patriots-Cowboys-Packers up next.
Hello, 0-5.
RE: Detroit Lions - Hoekjeness - 09-16-2018 08:08 PM
So Lions.
RE: Detroit Lions - Hoekjeness - 09-16-2018 08:08 PM
(09-16-2018 05:23 PM)Hiller4Hyz09 Wrote: Matt Breida still doing his thing.
He looked crisp. Kind of glad I stashed him on my bench in FF.
RE: Detroit Lions - BroncoPhilly - 09-16-2018 08:16 PM
Detroit Fans take a knee when they announce the Lions starters.
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RE: Detroit Lions - MajorHoople - 09-17-2018 06:10 AM
Interesting large amount of empty seats in SF stadium Sunday.
RE: Detroit Lions - GullLake - 09-17-2018 08:42 AM
(09-17-2018 06:10 AM)MajorHoople Wrote: Interesting large amount of empty seats in SF stadium Sunday.
Here are pics from kick-off.
https://twitter.com/PaulPjkeyes/status/1041447086699339776
RE: Detroit Lions - BroncoPhilly - 09-17-2018 10:36 AM
(09-17-2018 08:42 AM)GullLake Wrote:(09-17-2018 06:10 AM)MajorHoople Wrote: Interesting large amount of empty seats in SF stadium Sunday.
Here are pics from kick-off.
https://twitter.com/PaulPjkeyes/status/1041447086699339776
People are finding better things to do. I stopped watching the NFL 3-4 years ago, don't miss them. Lots more free time on Sundays to catch up on things.
Pro Football became popular back in the 1950's with the advent to televised games, it wasn't always the national focus on Sundays. The players are making a big mistake if they think their anthem protests won't have an affect, many folks will find other things to do with their free time and the financial impact on the NFL will be felt. Throw in that festering issue of CTE injuries and you have all the makings for a sport in it's final stages of popularity.
RE: Detroit Lions - Hiller4Hyz09 - 09-17-2018 08:02 PM
(09-17-2018 10:36 AM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:(09-17-2018 08:42 AM)GullLake Wrote:(09-17-2018 06:10 AM)MajorHoople Wrote: Interesting large amount of empty seats in SF stadium Sunday.
Here are pics from kick-off.
https://twitter.com/PaulPjkeyes/status/1041447086699339776
People are finding better things to do. I stopped watching the NFL 3-4 years ago, don't miss them. Lots more free time on Sundays to catch up on things.
Pro Football became popular back in the 1950's with the advent to televised games, it wasn't always the national focus on Sundays. The players are making a big mistake if they think their anthem protests won't have an affect, many folks will find other things to do with their free time and the financial impact on the NFL will be felt. Throw in that festering issue of CTE injuries and you have all the makings for a sport in it's final stages of popularity.
I mean, it's obvious they're not protesting the anthem, or King Nebuchenezzer. It's really obvious what they're trying to draw attention to, right? Like, really, really obvious.
RE: Detroit Lions - Boca Rocket - 09-17-2018 08:18 PM
(09-17-2018 10:36 AM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:(09-17-2018 08:42 AM)GullLake Wrote:(09-17-2018 06:10 AM)MajorHoople Wrote: Interesting large amount of empty seats in SF stadium Sunday.
Here are pics from kick-off.
https://twitter.com/PaulPjkeyes/status/1041447086699339776
People are finding better things to do. I stopped watching the NFL 3-4 years ago, don't miss them. Lots more free time on Sundays to catch up on things.
Pro Football became popular back in the 1950's with the advent to televised games, it wasn't always the national focus on Sundays. The players are making a big mistake if they think their anthem protests won't have an affect, many folks will find other things to do with their free time and the financial impact on the NFL will be felt. Throw in that festering issue of CTE injuries and you have all the makings for a sport in it's final stages of popularity.
My son in law, 28 yrs old, former military gave up the NFL last season. He's done for good. Now focusing on auto racing and the NHL with his entertainment dollar.
RE: Detroit Lions - Hoekjeness - 09-17-2018 08:37 PM
(09-17-2018 10:36 AM)BroncoPhilly Wrote: The players are making a big mistake if they think their anthem protests won't have an affect, many folks will find other things to do with their free time and the financial impact on the NFL will be felt. Throw in that festering issue of CTE injuries and you have all the makings for a sport in it's final stages of popularity.
And the consumers are making an even bigger mistake by not paying attention to what the protests are actually about. Talk about a snowflake... why would you stop watching because a guy kneels during a commercial break?
The NFL is still the most watched professional sports on TV, and it's not even remotely close. The average NBA Conference Finals (and Finals) drew about 12-15 million viewers this past summer. A single NFL playoff game drew 3x that much (40-45 million viewers):
https://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/2018/05/30/how-does-nbas-conference-finals-viewership-stack-up-against-the-nfl-mlb-and-nhl/#c7db0664819b
You're watching too much Faux News and subsequently have zero sense of reality.
RE: Detroit Lions - BroncoPhilly - 09-17-2018 10:03 PM
(09-17-2018 08:18 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:(09-17-2018 10:36 AM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:(09-17-2018 08:42 AM)GullLake Wrote:(09-17-2018 06:10 AM)MajorHoople Wrote: Interesting large amount of empty seats in SF stadium Sunday.
Here are pics from kick-off.
https://twitter.com/PaulPjkeyes/status/1041447086699339776
People are finding better things to do. I stopped watching the NFL 3-4 years ago, don't miss them. Lots more free time on Sundays to catch up on things.
Pro Football became popular back in the 1950's with the advent to televised games, it wasn't always the national focus on Sundays. The players are making a big mistake if they think their anthem protests won't have an affect, many folks will find other things to do with their free time and the financial impact on the NFL will be felt. Throw in that festering issue of CTE injuries and you have all the makings for a sport in it's final stages of popularity.
My son in law, 28 yrs old, former military gave up the NFL last season. He's done for good. Now focusing on auto racing and the NHL with his entertainment dollar.
Kudos to your SIL. I really don't miss it. I go to services on Sunday, have breakfast afterwards with my wife. Walk my dogs, do some yard work. Maybe take a nap.
I mean, why spend your time watching a bunch of ungrateful, overpaid entertainers ripping on the country that offers them so much? They don't need my money, I guess. And I don't need to watch their performances, such as they are.
RE: Detroit Lions - wmubroncopilot - 09-18-2018 12:20 AM
(09-17-2018 10:03 PM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:(09-17-2018 08:18 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:(09-17-2018 10:36 AM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:(09-17-2018 08:42 AM)GullLake Wrote:(09-17-2018 06:10 AM)MajorHoople Wrote: Interesting large amount of empty seats in SF stadium Sunday.
Here are pics from kick-off.
https://twitter.com/PaulPjkeyes/status/1041447086699339776
People are finding better things to do. I stopped watching the NFL 3-4 years ago, don't miss them. Lots more free time on Sundays to catch up on things.
Pro Football became popular back in the 1950's with the advent to televised games, it wasn't always the national focus on Sundays. The players are making a big mistake if they think their anthem protests won't have an affect, many folks will find other things to do with their free time and the financial impact on the NFL will be felt. Throw in that festering issue of CTE injuries and you have all the makings for a sport in it's final stages of popularity.
My son in law, 28 yrs old, former military gave up the NFL last season. He's done for good. Now focusing on auto racing and the NHL with his entertainment dollar.
Kudos to your SIL. I really don't miss it. I go to services on Sunday, have breakfast afterwards with my wife. Walk my dogs, do some yard work. Maybe take a nap.
I mean, why spend your time watching a bunch of ungrateful, overpaid entertainers ripping on the country that offers them so much? They don't need my money, I guess. And I don't need to watch their performances, such as they are.
I enjoy that your answer was "all that and more" to the earlier post and now you've spent the whole time b!tching about one frankly less important issue.
RE: Detroit Lions - Boca Rocket - 09-18-2018 10:08 AM
(09-17-2018 08:37 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:(09-17-2018 10:36 AM)BroncoPhilly Wrote: The players are making a big mistake if they think their anthem protests won't have an affect, many folks will find other things to do with their free time and the financial impact on the NFL will be felt. Throw in that festering issue of CTE injuries and you have all the makings for a sport in it's final stages of popularity.
And the consumers are making an even bigger mistake by not paying attention to what the protests are actually about. Talk about a snowflake... why would you stop watching because a guy kneels during a commercial break?
The NFL is still the most watched professional sports on TV, and it's not even remotely close. The average NBA Conference Finals (and Finals) drew about 12-15 million viewers this past summer. A single NFL playoff game drew 3x that much (40-45 million viewers):
https://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/2018/05/30/how-does-nbas-conference-finals-viewership-stack-up-against-the-nfl-mlb-and-nhl/#c7db0664819b
You're watching too much Faux News and subsequently have zero sense of reality.
2018 NBA Finals had an average viewership of 17.7 million per game.That's about 71 million views for a 4 game series. I believe that doesn't include worldwide streaming. The numbers were down from 2016 and 2017 for the NBA that were 20 million+.
RE: Detroit Lions - Hoekjeness - 09-18-2018 10:29 AM
(09-18-2018 10:08 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:(09-17-2018 08:37 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:(09-17-2018 10:36 AM)BroncoPhilly Wrote: The players are making a big mistake if they think their anthem protests won't have an affect, many folks will find other things to do with their free time and the financial impact on the NFL will be felt. Throw in that festering issue of CTE injuries and you have all the makings for a sport in it's final stages of popularity.
And the consumers are making an even bigger mistake by not paying attention to what the protests are actually about. Talk about a snowflake... why would you stop watching because a guy kneels during a commercial break?
The NFL is still the most watched professional sports on TV, and it's not even remotely close. The average NBA Conference Finals (and Finals) drew about 12-15 million viewers this past summer. A single NFL playoff game drew 3x that much (40-45 million viewers):
https://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/2018/05/30/how-does-nbas-conference-finals-viewership-stack-up-against-the-nfl-mlb-and-nhl/#c7db0664819b
You're watching too much Faux News and subsequently have zero sense of reality.
2018 NBA Finals had an average viewership of 17.7 million per game.That's about 71 million views for a 4 game series. I believe that doesn't include worldwide streaming. The numbers were down from 2016 and 2017 for the NBA that were 20 million+.
Correct. And one NFL playoff game (not even the Super Bowl) had 44 million viewers.
RE: Detroit Lions - wmubroncopilot - 09-18-2018 10:58 AM
The NFL is fine. Attendance, though not a major issue, has dropped because of cost and viewership has dropped because of other entertainment options but mainly because lots of (mostly younger) people have cut the cord completely. Illegal streams are plentiful and many are in HD quality and the more leagues have tried to stamp them out the better they've gotten.
Even with all that said, the league is doing more than fine. Like every other professional sports league there are challenges but they better be far more worried about the brain injury issue because that might take the whole thing down.
I don't personally watch much because I never made a connection to a team and watching CFB all Saturday is enough time investment. But anyone who thinks anthem kneeling is what's "killing the NFL" is fooling themselves.
RE: Detroit Lions - broncofan1 - 09-20-2018 12:11 PM
Anyone who thinks kneeling during the anthem is protesting "the flag" is just a fool.
RE: Detroit Lions - GullLake - 09-20-2018 12:44 PM
(09-20-2018 12:11 PM)broncofan1 Wrote: Anyone who thinks kneeling during the anthem is protesting "the flag" is just a fool.
And if you think the kneeling is actually helping the worthy cause of those who are doing the kneeling, you are just as much a fool.
Using America's National Anthem as a form of protest, distorts and takes attention away from your cause. People do not see beyond the vehicle being used to protest, for better or worse.
The NFL got itself into a pickle when it did not address this immediately and let it fester (there is no freedom of speech in the workplace, during work hours). Trump's buffoonish involvement took-it-up a notch and turned it into a political issue where the anthem (vehicle) is the issue, not the cause. Problem is...nothing is being done to address the worthy cause because so much attention is being given to the vehicle.
Such a stupid waste of time, energy and emotion.
Stand for the anthem and WORK legitimately (stop posing) for the cause. It is always harder to bring people together than it is to push them apart. We r-e-a-l-l-y need to find ways to unify as a nation/society.
RE: Detroit Lions - brovol - 09-20-2018 02:56 PM
(09-20-2018 12:11 PM)broncofan1 Wrote: Anyone who thinks kneeling during the anthem is protesting "the flag" is just a fool.
It isnt protesting the flag; it is outwardly disrespecting the symbol of American liberty, and those who we recognize and honor by standing at attention during the anthem, including those who risked their lives by declaring independence against a power who was limiting freedom, and all those who have defended the same principles thereafter, either by serving in the military or otherwise.
To suggest that this is a "good" way to protest is suggesting that the flag or the anthem are insignificant, or unworthy of being held in the high regard that, at least in my mind, they should be. Some things are sacred.
There are many religious symbols which, if deliberately interrupted in a similar fashion would draw outrage by the left. Probably not as much a christian service, but if i went to a Muslim service, and went in a conspicuous spot within the mosque doing something to draw obvious attention away from the service and to myself in "protest", I bet the folks would cry foul.
RE: Detroit Lions - broncofan1 - 09-20-2018 03:00 PM
Not helping? Really?
Most people wouldn't be talking about the issues facing these communities if it weren't for the protests. And the players are putting their money where their mouths are to the tune of millions.
The NFL is welcome to make whatever workplace rules they want. But they haven't, and they haven't enforced anything.
As for unification, there is a long history of the comfortable majority turning a blind eye to the plight of the minority. An equally long history of the comfortable majority finding red herrings and blame to place on the minority. This protest is the most successful in terms of bringing light to some of these problems since the Civil Rights movement.
As for the anthem being used for political purposes, you know why the anthem is televised for NFL games, right? You know that (outside of the Super Bowl), they were treated as commercial breaks. It wasn't until the DoD paid the NFL to show the anthem on tv to generate support post 9-11 that the home viewer ever saw the anthem.
So, I can look past the alleged 'slight' given to the flag by players trying to protest an unjust system using the same platform the government chose to gin up support with.