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RE: [split] Mike Bloomgren's 2nd Rice recruiting class - tanqtonic - 12-19-2018 06:10 PM
24/7 Ranked progression
2012 -- 85
2013 -- 91
2014 -- 91
2015 -- 91
2015 -- 101
2016 -- 129
2017 -- 122
2018 -- 111
2019 -- 107
The drop from 2012 to 2016 is just kind of sickening, and not palpably better in 2017. At least there is some clawing back in the other direction at this point.
RE: [split] Mike Bloomgren's 2nd Rice recruiting class - Buho00 - 12-19-2018 07:07 PM
(12-19-2018 06:10 PM)tanqtonic Wrote: 24/7 Ranked progression
2012 -- 85
2013 -- 91
2014 -- 91
2015 -- 91
2015 -- 101
2016 -- 129
2017 -- 122
2018 -- 111
2019 -- 107
The drop from 2012 to 2016 is just kind of sickening, and not palpably better in 2017. At least there is some clawing back in the other direction at this point.
Coincides with the decline in CUSA as programs left.
Despite the ranking, Rice has its highest average player rating since 2010 per 247. And Bailey is the top rated out of state player to sign with Rice per 247 history. Also one JUCO who was arguably the most impactful that visited this past weekend (per The Roost), is not rated. The ability to get JUCOS and out of state players is exciting.
RE: [split] Mike Bloomgren's 2nd Rice recruiting class - Almadenmike - 12-19-2018 07:22 PM
Here's a link to the Rice news release on the 17 who signed today: https://riceowls.com/news/2018/12/19/football-owls-sign-17-in-early-period.aspx
RE: [split] Mike Bloomgren's 2nd Rice recruiting class - Almadenmike - 12-19-2018 07:49 PM
(12-19-2018 02:22 PM)Buho00 Wrote: Stinks to lose Byczinski last minute like that, to Buffalo. But I wonder if Green's emergence (and Marshmen's) as freshmen/soph had something to do with his change of mind. I feel a lot better about the QB position with those two young guys than I did when Byczniski first committed in the summer. I liked his size and potential but only had competing offers from Buffalo and Bowling Green.
Adding Bailey is a pleasant surprise. Per Rivals he had offers from UCLA and BYU, though 247 does not reflect those. He is graded 87 in 247 which seems higher than anybody we've gotten recently (Abercrumbia was an 85 or 86 iirc). Per The Roost, he's the #2 current recruit signed in CUSA.
Here's a link to and excerpt from the Buffalo News article about the Bulls' 17 signees today, including Bycznski: https://buffalonews.com/2018/12/19/ub-football-2019-freshman-class-ncaa-national-signing-day/
Quote:The coaching staff received 17 National Letters of Intent by the time the Bulls stepped off the practice field in the afternoon at UMS-Wright Preparatory School in Mobile. In that group: three offensive linemen, four defensive linemen, three wide receivers and a 6-foot-5, 225-pound pro-style quarterback who was an 11th-hour addition to the class in the early signing period.
“We’re excited about the athleticism but we understand it’s a developmental process in the program, and we hope we’re at a point where we don’t have to count on a lot of young players immediately,” UB coach Lance Leipold said. “Hopefully, we give them some time to learn and prosper within our offense.”
Trevor Bycznski, a quarterback from Berea-Midpark High School in the Cleveland suburbs, is the most significant get for the Bulls. He visited UB in the spring but committed to Rice in July.
However, Bycznski said UB's coaches contacted him Tuesday to let him know that quarterback Morgan Mitchell of Oviedo, Fla., had decommitted, and offered him a spot in the class.
"Last night was a long, thoughtful night, between trying to make that decision," Bycznski said. "I talked to my parents, to my friends and to (Midpark) coach (Jon) Hunek, to figure out what was best for me and best for what I want to do. At the end of the day, Buffalo won out."
Bycznski threw for more than 3,000 yards with 26 touchdowns and five interceptions and ran for another 12 touchdowns at Midpark High. He is ranked as the No. 82 pro-style quarterback in the nation and No. 73 player overall in Ohio, according to 247Sports.
"I’m a pocket, pro-style quarterback, but if I have to run, I will run," Bycznski said. "I can make all the throws on the field, without a doubt, and I can get away from pressure and run."
Bycznski joins a UB quarterbacks group that includes redshirt junior Tyree Jackson, sophomore Kyle Vantrease, redshirt sophomore Dominic Johnson and freshmen Matt Myers, a West Seneca West graduate, and Kolston Brewster.
From another BN article today: "Mitchell had been a silent commit to UB since June, but decided on Tuesday that he was not going to sign."
RE: [split] Mike Bloomgren's 2nd Rice recruiting class - tanqtonic - 12-19-2018 08:18 PM
(12-19-2018 07:07 PM)Buho00 Wrote:(12-19-2018 06:10 PM)tanqtonic Wrote: 24/7 Ranked progression
2012 -- 85
2013 -- 91
2014 -- 91
2015 -- 91
2015 -- 101
2016 -- 129
2017 -- 122
2018 -- 111
2019 -- 107
The drop from 2012 to 2016 is just kind of sickening, and not palpably better in 2017. At least there is some clawing back in the other direction at this point.
Coincides with the decline in CUSA as programs left.
Despite the ranking, Rice has its highest average player rating since 2010 per 247. And Bailey is the top rated out of state player to sign with Rice per 247 history. Also one JUCO who was arguably the most impactful that visited this past weekend (per The Roost), is not rated. The ability to get JUCOS and out of state players is exciting.
2nd highest rating ever (aside from the 2010) since 24/7 tracked Rice (i.e. 2003).
Looking at the offer list there -- Rice *needs* to get to the point where there shouldnt be any reason for an offeree to go to SMU (iirc 4); and the pick between Northwestern and Rice (iirc another 4) is *much* harder, and NFW we should lose any picks to North Texas.
But very glad to see the numbers go up instead of in a freefall.
It is very sobering that one can be pleased with a 107 ranking --- but I am. My heart goes out to Bloom, and I have to say that, on the surface, he and his staff took a **** sandwich of year and managed to sell their vision of the future. Kudos to everyone who did this.
RE: [split] Mike Bloomgren's 2nd Rice recruiting class - Fort Bend Owl - 12-19-2018 08:49 PM
I'm most excited about Leverett. I think he's the first grad transfer we've gotten who is a legitimate starter from another school (the UCLA transfer started some but was originally a walk-on). I'm sure I'm missing some people but it seems like it's been a long time since we've had any transfer from a 4-year college who was a starter at that school - 20-25 years ago we had a ton of them who ended up being significant (Bert Emanuel, Sean Washington, Bobby Gray, etc.)
Losing the QB doesn't bother me a ton. We can't be a running team without an OL.
Getting the secondary help is also significant.
RE: [split] Mike Bloomgren's 2nd Rice recruiting class - Hank16 - 12-19-2018 08:56 PM
(12-19-2018 02:39 PM)Rice FB Fan Wrote:(12-19-2018 02:27 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote: We definitely need to add a QB to this class though. I wouldn't be opposed to looking at the guy from New Orleans that mrbig has mentioned... I also notice that Bloomgren is following SMU Grad Transfer QB Ben Hicks on twitter.
With the Tyner and Stank departure, we'll only have Marshman, Green, and Towns on the roster at QB. Towns and Marshman (he may have earned a scholarship) are walk-ons. Need more than that.
I bet we get 2 QBs in this class before its over (PWO and scholly). That said, I would not doubt that all of the praise on Green spooks some kids. Consider that Marshman started over Green, and Towns played in key situations this season in two games (including the first 3rd and long in the LSU game), which tells recruits that the coaches think all 3 guys we have can play, and all 3 will be at Rice several more years. However, Bloom seems like a good recruiter, and will get some guys in here that aren't afraid to compete.
Marshman is a true duel threat, this offense will need this type of QB. I thought the ability to roll out pass or run gives us another weapon. He needs to protect himself if he hopes to play. Wiley has a stronger arm but designed runs for him are out. A Spring/off-season will be big for him..he too needs to protect his body. A lot of upside to Parker good arm/size another year will give him confidence. All three have 3-4 years of eligibility. Develop these three and focus on a QB in 2020.
RE: [split] Mike Bloomgren's 2nd Rice recruiting class - ExcitedOwl18 - 12-19-2018 09:13 PM
I think it’s a very, very risky proposition not to take a QB this year. We saw the injury issues this year... At one point, Green, Marshman, and Stank all couldn’t play. If the same thing happened again next year (if we don’t take a QB), we’d have Juma in the wildcat fulltime.
RE: [split] Mike Bloomgren's 2nd Rice recruiting class - Hank16 - 12-19-2018 09:23 PM
(12-19-2018 09:13 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote: I think it’s a very, very risky proposition not to take a QB this year. We saw the injury issues this year... At one point, Green, Marshman, and Stank all couldn’t play. If the same thing happened again next year (if we don’t take a QB), we’d have Juma in the wildcat fulltime.
We have to grow up...Texas has three, that all we need....wait, what about #16 Robbie, he is a three star that was offered by Miss State.
RE: [split] Mike Bloomgren's 2nd Rice recruiting class - ExcitedOwl18 - 12-19-2018 09:34 PM
(12-19-2018 09:23 PM)Hank16 Wrote:(12-19-2018 09:13 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote: I think it’s a very, very risky proposition not to take a QB this year. We saw the injury issues this year... At one point, Green, Marshman, and Stank all couldn’t play. If the same thing happened again next year (if we don’t take a QB), we’d have Juma in the wildcat fulltime.
We have to grow up...Texas has three, that all we need....wait, what about #16 Robbie, he is a three star that was offered by Miss State.
Huh?
Texas this past season had Ehlinger, Buechele, Thompson and Rising.
If/when Buechele transfers (in which case we should go after him), they signed the guy from Port Neches today, so they’ll still have four SCHOLARSHIP QBs.
Right now, we have one, maybe two.
Robbie Blosser didn’t have a scholarship to Moo State... It was a PWO offer. He also didn’t sniff the field this year so I’m unconvinced of his talent level.
RE: [split] Mike Bloomgren's 2nd Rice recruiting class - ExcitedOwl18 - 12-19-2018 09:54 PM
I’m watching this Mart-Gruver game and we should offer their DT/RB... As a DT of course. 160 lbs of beast.
RE: [split] Mike Bloomgren's 2nd Rice recruiting class - Hank16 - 12-19-2018 10:47 PM
(12-19-2018 09:34 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:(12-19-2018 09:23 PM)Hank16 Wrote:(12-19-2018 09:13 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote: I think it’s a very, very risky proposition not to take a QB this year. We saw the injury issues this year... At one point, Green, Marshman, and Stank all couldn’t play. If the same thing happened again next year (if we don’t take a QB), we’d have Juma in the wildcat fulltime.
We have to grow up...Texas has three, that all we need....wait, what about #16 Robbie, he is a three star that was offered by Miss State.
Huh?
Texas this past season had Ehlinger, Buechele, Thompson and Rising.
If/when Buechele transfers (in which case we should go after him), they signed the guy from Port Neches today, so they’ll still have four SCHOLARSHIP QBs.
Right now, we have one, maybe two.
Robbie Blosser didn’t have a scholarship to Moo State... It was a PWO offer. He also didn’t sniff the field this year so I’m unconvinced of his talent level.
Texas had has three this season. Buechele is not going transferring...he absolutely loves the Horns. Your right on Blosser but looks like UNT did offer him.
RE: [split] Mike Bloomgren's 2nd Rice recruiting class - ExcitedOwl18 - 12-19-2018 11:05 PM
(12-19-2018 10:47 PM)Hank16 Wrote:(12-19-2018 09:34 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:(12-19-2018 09:23 PM)Hank16 Wrote:(12-19-2018 09:13 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote: I think it’s a very, very risky proposition not to take a QB this year. We saw the injury issues this year... At one point, Green, Marshman, and Stank all couldn’t play. If the same thing happened again next year (if we don’t take a QB), we’d have Juma in the wildcat fulltime.
We have to grow up...Texas has three, that all we need....wait, what about #16 Robbie, he is a three star that was offered by Miss State.
Huh?
Texas this past season had Ehlinger, Buechele, Thompson and Rising.
If/when Buechele transfers (in which case we should go after him), they signed the guy from Port Neches today, so they’ll still have four SCHOLARSHIP QBs.
Right now, we have one, maybe two.
Robbie Blosser didn’t have a scholarship to Moo State... It was a PWO offer. He also didn’t sniff the field this year so I’m unconvinced of his talent level.
Texas had has three this season. Buechele is not going transferring...he absolutely loves the Horns. Your right on Blosser but looks like UNT did offer him.
Dude, you're wrong...
Texas had 4 scholarship QBs on the roster this year.
https://texassports.com/roster.aspx?path=football&roster=296&sort=position
They also had a walk-on (the guy from Aldine).
RE: [split] Mike Bloomgren's 2nd Rice recruiting class - Gravy Owl - 12-20-2018 12:10 AM
(12-19-2018 08:49 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: I'm sure I'm missing some people but it seems like it's been a long time since we've had any transfer from a 4-year college who was a starter at that school - 20-25 years ago we had a ton of them who ended up being significant (Bert Emanuel, Sean Washington, Bobby Gray, etc.)
Sam McGuffie and Justin Allen. But I agree with the distinction between transfers who were highly-rated recruits who didn’t pan out as opposed to people who can play at the D1 level.
With that said, Nick Fanuzzi was clearly Rice’s best QB in 2009 and a valuable backup after that. So he was well worth his scholarship even if he didn’t meet some fans’ rivals.com-based expectations.
RE: [split] Mike Bloomgren's 2nd Rice recruiting class - Fort Bend Owl - 12-20-2018 06:39 AM
Yeah McGuffie was a big-time transfer - I don't know how I forgot about him. I had to look up Allen - I did forget who he was (he was our Idaho LB transfer out of Cedar Park). But both ended up being nice contributors for Rice and also were contributors at their original schools. They were both transfers from about 10 years ago so it's been awhile (and Fanuzzi was in that same time frame).
RE: [split] Mike Bloomgren's 2nd Rice recruiting class - OptimisticOwl - 12-20-2018 10:53 AM
(12-19-2018 07:22 PM)Almadenmike Wrote: Here's a link to the Rice news release on the 17 who signed today: https://riceowls.com/news/2018/12/19/football-owls-sign-17-in-early-period.aspx
I liked this class already. Beading these bios make me feel even better.
RE: [split] Mike Bloomgren's 2nd Rice recruiting class - tanqtonic - 12-20-2018 11:40 AM
Position breakdown on the signees:
S -- 4
CB -- 1
LB -- 1
LB/DE/RUSH -- 2
DL -- 1
OL -- 3
TE -- 1
RB -- 1
WR -- 2
K -- 1
Major emphasis on OL and secondary (especially safety). Too bad there isnt a QB in the mix.
RE: [split] Mike Bloomgren's 2nd Rice recruiting class - Ourland - 12-20-2018 11:43 AM
(12-20-2018 10:53 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:(12-19-2018 07:22 PM)Almadenmike Wrote: Here's a link to the Rice news release on the 17 who signed today: https://riceowls.com/news/2018/12/19/football-owls-sign-17-in-early-period.aspx
I liked this class already. Beading these bios make me feel even better.
Even the kicker sounds great. We needed an excellent kicker, and we got one. The JC transfer from Cisco College is 6"-5" and he's the best JC receiver in the country.
RE: [split] Mike Bloomgren's 2nd Rice recruiting class - cr11owl - 12-20-2018 11:48 AM
(12-20-2018 11:43 AM)Ourland Wrote:(12-20-2018 10:53 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:(12-19-2018 07:22 PM)Almadenmike Wrote: Here's a link to the Rice news release on the 17 who signed today: https://riceowls.com/news/2018/12/19/football-owls-sign-17-in-early-period.aspx
I liked this class already. Beading these bios make me feel even better.
Even the kicker sounds great. We needed an excellent kicker, and we got one. The JC transfer from Cisco College is 6"-5" and he's the best JC receiver in the country.
How did you come up with that? He was honorably mention and is ranked 25th among WRs from Juco on 247.
RE: [split] Mike Bloomgren's 2nd Rice recruiting class - OptimisticOwl - 12-20-2018 11:57 AM
(12-20-2018 11:48 AM)cr11owl Wrote:(12-20-2018 11:43 AM)Ourland Wrote:(12-20-2018 10:53 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:(12-19-2018 07:22 PM)Almadenmike Wrote: Here's a link to the Rice news release on the 17 who signed today: https://riceowls.com/news/2018/12/19/football-owls-sign-17-in-early-period.aspx
I liked this class already. Beading these bios make me feel even better.
Even the kicker sounds great. We needed an excellent kicker, and we got one. The JC transfer from Cisco College is 6"-5" and he's the best JC receiver in the country.
How did you come up with that? He was honorably mention and is ranked 25th among WRs from Juco on 247.
Maybe it was because he led JuCo with 13 TD catches.