(04-02-2018 11:05 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  2020 predicted market share. Netflix and Hulu will have about 15 years in the streaming market while the premium movie channels about 5.

Netflix 65 million
Hulu VOD 40 million
Starz 5.9 million
Showtime 5.8 million
HBO 5.6 million
CBS All-Access 4.8 million
Sling TV 3 million

https://www.statista.com/statistics/706267/streaming-service-subscriber/

I don't think ESPN+ is going to take over America anytime soon.

(04-03-2018 12:21 AM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  Question: Will the content from ESPN, ESPN2, and ESPNU also be on ESPN+?


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Quote:- An NBA out of market game of the day similar to Yahoo!'s package with the NHL and MLB.
- More soccer, probably international leagues like Mexico and Italy.
- International sports with small but devoted followings like cricket and rugby.

(04-03-2018 12:11 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 11:05 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  2020 predicted market share. Netflix and Hulu will have about 15 years in the streaming market while the premium movie channels about 5.

Netflix 65 million
Hulu VOD 40 million
Starz 5.9 million
Showtime 5.8 million
HBO 5.6 million
CBS All-Access 4.8 million
Sling TV 3 million

https://www.statista.com/statistics/706267/streaming-service-subscriber/

I don't think ESPN+ is going to take over America anytime soon.

MLB.tv has around 4 million subscribers and that's with the baseball fan in Chicago unable to watch the Cubs or White Sox on MLB.tv. The fan in Connecticut can't see the Red Sox, Yankees or Mets. Fans in Arkansas and Oklahoma can't watch any game involving the Cardinals, Rangers, Royals, or Astros.

We really don't know what streaming sports can do.

(04-02-2018 07:40 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 07:38 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 04:19 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 04:16 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  So pretty much most of the MAC and Sunbelt games are heading there also.

Non linear stuff.

Yep , which is pretty much most of the games.

In FB I think the MAC is about 50/50 linear with its ESPN offerings. However ESPN3 will continue to produce games free of charge.

Its going to be stuff that is self produced moving there.

(04-03-2018 07:31 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 12:11 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 11:05 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  2020 predicted market share. Netflix and Hulu will have about 15 years in the streaming market while the premium movie channels about 5.

Netflix 65 million
Hulu VOD 40 million
Starz 5.9 million
Showtime 5.8 million
HBO 5.6 million
CBS All-Access 4.8 million
Sling TV 3 million

https://www.statista.com/statistics/706267/streaming-service-subscriber/

I don't think ESPN+ is going to take over America anytime soon.

MLB.tv has around 4 million subscribers and that's with the baseball fan in Chicago unable to watch the Cubs or White Sox on MLB.tv. The fan in Connecticut can't see the Red Sox, Yankees or Mets. Fans in Arkansas and Oklahoma can't watch any game involving the Cardinals, Rangers, Royals, or Astros.

We really don't know what streaming sports can do.

4 million subscribers for a streaming service that has been around 15 years for video and about 20 for audio.

(04-03-2018 07:49 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 07:31 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 12:11 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 11:05 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  2020 predicted market share. Netflix and Hulu will have about 15 years in the streaming market while the premium movie channels about 5.

Netflix 65 million
Hulu VOD 40 million
Starz 5.9 million
Showtime 5.8 million
HBO 5.6 million
CBS All-Access 4.8 million
Sling TV 3 million

https://www.statista.com/statistics/706267/streaming-service-subscriber/

I don't think ESPN+ is going to take over America anytime soon.

MLB.tv has around 4 million subscribers and that's with the baseball fan in Chicago unable to watch the Cubs or White Sox on MLB.tv. The fan in Connecticut can't see the Red Sox, Yankees or Mets. Fans in Arkansas and Oklahoma can't watch any game involving the Cardinals, Rangers, Royals, or Astros.

We really don't know what streaming sports can do.

4 million subscribers for a streaming service that has been around 15 years for video and about 20 for audio.

MLB.TV is also one of the more expensive streaming services too.

I think ESPN+ press release say they are going to charge $25/month for it. I know you can buy a whole season for about $10/month if you pay in full upfront and early, even less if you have a student or military discount. They even have special one day sales throughout the year, like on father's day, where you can get the rest of the season with an very generous discount.

I would think most MLB.TV subscribers pay annually though, so I don't know how much more room there is for growth on that spectrum as the amount of people who are willing to fork out over $100 up front for out of market, regular season baseball will be limited. Paying monthly would make MLB.TV more expensive than Sling Orange which includes ESPN and Turner networks for sports.

Quote:ESPN+, the upcoming direct-to-consumer subscription streaming service from Disney Direct-to-Consumer and International in partnership with ESPN and featuring ESPN branded content, will launch on April 12 and offer fans a dynamic lineup of live sports, original content and an unmatched library of award-winning on-demand programming – all for a subscription price of $4.99 per month.

(04-03-2018 07:31 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 12:11 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 11:05 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  2020 predicted market share. Netflix and Hulu will have about 15 years in the streaming market while the premium movie channels about 5.

Netflix 65 million
Hulu VOD 40 million
Starz 5.9 million
Showtime 5.8 million
HBO 5.6 million
CBS All-Access 4.8 million
Sling TV 3 million

https://www.statista.com/statistics/706267/streaming-service-subscriber/

I don't think ESPN+ is going to take over America anytime soon.

MLB.tv has around 4 million subscribers and that's with the baseball fan in Chicago unable to watch the Cubs or White Sox on MLB.tv. The fan in Connecticut can't see the Red Sox, Yankees or Mets. Fans in Arkansas and Oklahoma can't watch any game involving the Cardinals, Rangers, Royals, or Astros.

We really don't know what streaming sports can do.

4 million subscribers for a streaming service that has been around 15 years for video and about 20 for audio.

(04-03-2018 07:49 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 07:31 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 12:11 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 11:05 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  2020 predicted market share. Netflix and Hulu will have about 15 years in the streaming market while the premium movie channels about 5.

Netflix 65 million
Hulu VOD 40 million
Starz 5.9 million
Showtime 5.8 million
HBO 5.6 million
CBS All-Access 4.8 million
Sling TV 3 million

https://www.statista.com/statistics/706267/streaming-service-subscriber/

I don't think ESPN+ is going to take over America anytime soon.

MLB.tv has around 4 million subscribers and that's with the baseball fan in Chicago unable to watch the Cubs or White Sox on MLB.tv. The fan in Connecticut can't see the Red Sox, Yankees or Mets. Fans in Arkansas and Oklahoma can't watch any game involving the Cardinals, Rangers, Royals, or Astros.

We really don't know what streaming sports can do.

4 million subscribers for a streaming service that has been around 15 years for video and about 20 for audio.

MLB.TV is also one of the more expensive streaming services too.

I think ESPN+ press release say they are going to charge $25/month for it. I know you can buy a whole season for about $10/month if you pay in full upfront and early, even less if you have a student or military discount. They even have special one day sales throughout the year, like on father's day, where you can get the rest of the season with an very generous discount.

I would think most MLB.TV subscribers pay annually though, so I don't know how much more room there is for growth on that spectrum as the amount of people who are willing to fork out over $100 up front for out of market, regular season baseball will be limited. Paying monthly would make MLB.TV more expensive than Sling Orange which includes ESPN and Turner networks for sports.

(04-03-2018 07:34 AM)CurveItAround Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 07:40 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 07:38 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 04:19 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 04:16 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  So pretty much most of the MAC and Sunbelt games are heading there also.

Non linear stuff.

Yep , which is pretty much most of the games.

In FB I think the MAC is about 50/50 linear with its ESPN offerings. However ESPN3 will continue to produce games free of charge.

Its going to be stuff that is self produced moving there.

I have seen it written that the ESPN deals with the MAC and SBC called for the conferences to cover production costs for the games from the money they receive for the contract and the contracts specify how many games are required to be produced (X amount for linear and X amount for streaming). Are you saying that is not the case?

(04-03-2018 06:16 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 12:21 AM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  Question: Will the content from ESPN, ESPN2, and ESPNU also be on ESPN+?


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No. To get those, you still need a cable log in I believe.

(04-03-2018 08:28 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 07:49 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 07:31 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 12:11 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 11:05 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  2020 predicted market share. Netflix and Hulu will have about 15 years in the streaming market while the premium movie channels about 5.

Netflix 65 million
Hulu VOD 40 million
Starz 5.9 million
Showtime 5.8 million
HBO 5.6 million
CBS All-Access 4.8 million
Sling TV 3 million

https://www.statista.com/statistics/706267/streaming-service-subscriber/

I don't think ESPN+ is going to take over America anytime soon.

MLB.tv has around 4 million subscribers and that's with the baseball fan in Chicago unable to watch the Cubs or White Sox on MLB.tv. The fan in Connecticut can't see the Red Sox, Yankees or Mets. Fans in Arkansas and Oklahoma can't watch any game involving the Cardinals, Rangers, Royals, or Astros.

We really don't know what streaming sports can do.

4 million subscribers for a streaming service that has been around 15 years for video and about 20 for audio.

MLB.TV is also one of the more expensive streaming services too.

I think ESPN+ press release say they are going to charge $25/month for it. I know you can buy a whole season for about $10/month if you pay in full upfront and early, even less if you have a student or military discount. They even have special one day sales throughout the year, like on father's day, where you can get the rest of the season with an very generous discount.

I would think most MLB.TV subscribers pay annually though, so I don't know how much more room there is for growth on that spectrum as the amount of people who are willing to fork out over $100 up front for out of market, regular season baseball will be limited. Paying monthly would make MLB.TV more expensive than Sling Orange which includes ESPN and Turner networks for sports.

What I read said $5/month, not $25.

Quote:ESPN+, the upcoming direct-to-consumer subscription streaming service from Disney Direct-to-Consumer and International in partnership with ESPN and featuring ESPN branded content, will launch on April 12 and offer fans a dynamic lineup of live sports, original content and an unmatched library of award-winning on-demand programming – all for a subscription price of $4.99 per month.

https://espnmediazone.com/us/press-releases/2018/04/espn-to-launch-april-12-bringing-sports-fans-more-live-sports-exclusive-originals-and-on-demand-library-all-for-4-99-per-month/

(04-03-2018 09:26 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 07:49 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 07:31 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 12:11 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 11:05 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  2020 predicted market share. Netflix and Hulu will have about 15 years in the streaming market while the premium movie channels about 5.

Netflix 65 million
Hulu VOD 40 million
Starz 5.9 million
Showtime 5.8 million
HBO 5.6 million
CBS All-Access 4.8 million
Sling TV 3 million

https://www.statista.com/statistics/706267/streaming-service-subscriber/

I don't think ESPN+ is going to take over America anytime soon.

MLB.tv has around 4 million subscribers and that's with the baseball fan in Chicago unable to watch the Cubs or White Sox on MLB.tv. The fan in Connecticut can't see the Red Sox, Yankees or Mets. Fans in Arkansas and Oklahoma can't watch any game involving the Cardinals, Rangers, Royals, or Astros.

We really don't know what streaming sports can do.

4 million subscribers for a streaming service that has been around 15 years for video and about 20 for audio.

MLB.TV is also one of the more expensive streaming services too.

I think ESPN+ press release say they are going to charge $25/month for it. I know you can buy a whole season for about $10/month if you pay in full upfront and early, even less if you have a student or military discount. They even have special one day sales throughout the year, like on father's day, where you can get the rest of the season with an very generous discount.

I would think most MLB.TV subscribers pay annually though, so I don't know how much more room there is for growth on that spectrum as the amount of people who are willing to fork out over $100 up front for out of market, regular season baseball will be limited. Paying monthly would make MLB.TV more expensive than Sling Orange which includes ESPN and Turner networks for sports.

MLB.tv is cheap compared to NHL Gamecenter. Expensive compared to MLS Direct Kick.

(04-03-2018 11:32 AM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 06:16 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 12:21 AM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  Question: Will the content from ESPN, ESPN2, and ESPNU also be on ESPN+?


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No. To get those, you still need a cable log in I believe.

So + will be primarily a carrier of secondary games, which will make this good for FCS and G5.


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(04-12-2018 09:31 AM)sctvman Wrote:  What will be interesting is if ESPN places softball and baseball regional coverage on ESPN+. There will be a lot of outcry from people if that happens. They have the Bases Loaded coverage for both on digital cable and DirecTV, but people want more.

(04-12-2018 11:30 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

(04-12-2018 09:31 AM)sctvman Wrote:  What will be interesting is if ESPN places softball and baseball regional coverage on ESPN+. There will be a lot of outcry from people if that happens. They have the Bases Loaded coverage for both on digital cable and DirecTV, but people want more.

I don't think people would complain if the college baseball and softball tournaments get additional coverage on ESPN+ above the games that are already shown on ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU. In fact, it would be a good use of ESPN+ to provide coverage for all of the regional games not shown on ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU. OTOH if the coverage on the "cable" ESPN channels is drastically cut back and those games moved to ESPN+, then some people would grumble.