(02-18-2018 06:47 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Yup, whenever someone uses the term "military-grade guns" or "assault weapons" I know I can just dismiss whatever it is that they say.

I think my 11-year-old niece knows more about guns than a lot of the twitter Gun Control Warriors.

(02-18-2018 07:12 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Fact or opinion? If it's a fact, prove it. If it's an opinion, then my opinion is you are far to cynical.

Response aimed at Khan.

(02-18-2018 07:18 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 07:12 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Fact or opinion? If it's a fact, prove it. If it's an opinion, then my opinion is you are far to cynical.

Response aimed at Khan.

I think the OP's observations are quite accurate. There's almost always a knee-jerk reaction to such events and yet when questioning those who are loudest calling for restricting our rights over gun ownership, they don't know which end of the barrel the round comes out of.

I wish I could find that anti-gun poster I once saw showing a rifle being fired and the entire cartridge was leaving the end of the barrel.

(02-18-2018 07:20 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 07:18 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 07:12 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Fact or opinion? If it's a fact, prove it. If it's an opinion, then my opinion is you are far to cynical.

Response aimed at Khan.

I think the OP's observations are quite accurate. There's almost always a knee-jerk reaction to such events and yet when questioning those who are loudest calling for restricting our rights over gun ownership, they don't know which end of the barrel the round comes out of.

I wish I could find that anti-gun poster I once saw showing a rifle being fired and the entire cartridge was leaving the end of the barrel.

Is this it?

(02-18-2018 07:22 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 07:20 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 07:18 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 07:12 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Fact or opinion? If it's a fact, prove it. If it's an opinion, then my opinion is you are far to cynical.

Response aimed at Khan.

I think the OP's observations are quite accurate. There's almost always a knee-jerk reaction to such events and yet when questioning those who are loudest calling for restricting our rights over gun ownership, they don't know which end of the barrel the round comes out of.

I wish I could find that anti-gun poster I once saw showing a rifle being fired and the entire cartridge was leaving the end of the barrel.

Is this it?

Bingo!!!!! That's it!!! Thanks Dude! You not only make my day with your sigline, you find that friggin' poster I've looked for forever.

(02-18-2018 07:27 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Artistic license? I hope.

(02-18-2018 06:36 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  After reading posts on her, other versions of social media and listening to news interviews that gun control proponents are the singularly most ignorant people offering an opinion on a topic in the history of the world. How anyone can have the audacity to repeatedly offer definitive statements then when confronted with the inaccuracies of said statements almost to a person say "Well I don't know anything about guns" is beyond me.

With that said I'm done being nice with these people. It's either willful ignorance or they are too stupid to understand facts. Either way I refuse to be nice to idiots who are trying to restrict or strip me of my rights who refuse to educate themselves about the subject.

(02-18-2018 09:18 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Agreed, it's almost as obnoxious as listening to all the amateur climate scientists and evolutionary biologists that are on social media. Hell our country is apparently filled with modern day renaissance men that are experts on everything.

(02-18-2018 09:28 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 09:18 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Agreed, it's almost as obnoxious as listening to all the amateur climate scientists and evolutionary biologists that are on social media. Hell our country is apparently filled with modern day renaissance men that are experts on everything.

Well, except for the fact that the Second Amendment and resulting legal rulings are pretty clear and the data behind climate science can be interpreted however you want to interpret it.

(02-18-2018 09:44 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 09:28 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 09:18 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Agreed, it's almost as obnoxious as listening to all the amateur climate scientists and evolutionary biologists that are on social media. Hell our country is apparently filled with modern day renaissance men that are experts on everything.

Well, except for the fact that the Second Amendment and resulting legal rulings are pretty clear and the data behind climate science can be interpreted however you want to interpret it.

I'd say the opposite. The interpretation of the second amendment is open for much debate, how the hell are we supposed to have a well armed militia capable of resisting tyranny if we can't have fully automatic weapons? The US military has armed drones and laser guided missiles. Our second amendment rights have already been stomped on and yet an appeals court has already decided that AR-15's aren't constitutionally protected. How the hell can you say there's clarity? Hell its law we're talking about, a contract among fellow citizens. It's very nature is to be debated.

Science on the other hand seeks the discovery of fact. Either the planet is warming or its not (it is), either human activity is contributing to it or it's not (it is). Pretty much all the climate science available points in one direction, to not see that is to be....what's the saying?....willfully ignorant.

(02-18-2018 10:08 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 09:44 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 09:28 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 09:18 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Agreed, it's almost as obnoxious as listening to all the amateur climate scientists and evolutionary biologists that are on social media. Hell our country is apparently filled with modern day renaissance men that are experts on everything.

Well, except for the fact that the Second Amendment and resulting legal rulings are pretty clear and the data behind climate science can be interpreted however you want to interpret it.

I'd say the opposite. The interpretation of the second amendment is open for much debate, how the hell are we supposed to have a well armed militia capable of resisting tyranny if we can't have fully automatic weapons? The US military has armed drones and laser guided missiles. Our second amendment rights have already been stomped on and yet an appeals court has already decided that AR-15's aren't constitutionally protected. How the hell can you say there's clarity? Hell its law we're talking about, a contract among fellow citizens. It's very nature is to be debated.

Science on the other hand seeks the discovery of fact. Either the planet is warming or its not (it is), either human activity is contributing to it or it's not (it is). Pretty much all the climate science available points in one direction, to not see that is to be....what's the saying?....willfully ignorant.

LOL

There's very few people out there that deny that the climate is indeed warming.

There's also no absolute proof that man is contributing to it. There's ton of speculation, much of it being pawned off as "settled science", but there's no indisputable proof that confirms it. The facts are we are in a similar warming period as was experienced between 250-400 BC, a time where there were no internal combustion engines to blame.