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RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread - NTXCoog12 - 12-25-2017 02:31 AM
(12-25-2017 01:21 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:(12-25-2017 01:14 AM)NTXCoog12 Wrote:(12-25-2017 01:04 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:(12-25-2017 01:01 AM)NTXCoog12 Wrote:(12-25-2017 12:56 AM)Coog Engineer Wrote: And here we go, another proof you don't know what you're watching. All you saw was run run run.
What you should have seen was QB reads whether to hand off or keep it. When QB makes the right decision, the play works. Make the wrong decision, it doesn't. That's just a small example, and I don't feel like teaching you Advanced Football Execution 4401.
RBs had 18 carries for 32 yards. Their longest run was 5 yard. So King must have made the wrong read every time because the running plays never worked
Fresno held SDSU to 3 points this year. The Aztecs have one of the best running games in the country. Sometimes its not about what you're doing but rather what you're opponent is doing.
SDSU's RBs had 176 yards rushing at 6.8 yards per carry. They had multiple runs over 20 yards
Meanwhile our RBs averaged 1.8 yards per carry with a long of 5.
Remember when Applewhite said he wanted a run based offense because championship teams run the ball? At 32 yards and 1.8 per carry, it's obvious we're far from a championship team then
Right they held the #11 rushing offense 80 yards under their average and didn't allow a single rushing touchdown. That's a pretty damn good effort. Does the run game need to improve, sure. But was it surprising how we looked today, no.
No not surprising. The running game has been poor all season when facing a team with and semblance of a defense. Only 3 times this season have we had a RB rush for 100 yards. 5 times this season our leading RB was held to less than 60 yards
RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread - Sactowndog - 12-25-2017 04:29 AM
(12-25-2017 01:04 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:(12-25-2017 01:01 AM)NTXCoog12 Wrote:(12-25-2017 12:56 AM)Coog Engineer Wrote:(12-25-2017 12:53 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote: So running up the middle 3 times in a row is not bad play calling? Because that is what applewhite did literally almost the entire year.
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And here we go, another proof you don't know what you're watching. All you saw was run run run.
What you should have seen was QB reads whether to hand off or keep it. When QB makes the right decision, the play works. Make the wrong decision, it doesn't. That's just a small example, and I don't feel like teaching you Advanced Football Execution 4401.
RBs had 18 carries for 32 yards. Their longest run was 5 yard. So King must have made the wrong read every time because the running plays never worked
Fresno held SDSU to 3 points this year. The Aztecs have one of the best running games in the country. Sometimes its not about what you're doing but rather what you're opponent is doing.
Not just the Aztecs. The only team that could run on Fresno all year was Alabama. Our run D is nasty, led by Allison. We were simply a bad match-up for you as you had a talented but inexperienced QB that couldn’t exploit our weakness in pass D.
The more surprising part was how our O Line took charge of the line of scrimmage. Oliver was not a big factor and Mitchell and Muti took it to him. But great game Houston, it was fun to watch and hope we play more in the future.
RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread - quo vadis - 12-25-2017 05:45 AM
AAC East >>> AAC West
RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread - WhoseHouse? - 12-25-2017 05:55 AM
(12-25-2017 05:45 AM)quo vadis Wrote: AAC East >>> AAC West
This year it would seem so. First for everything.
RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread - NestaKnight1 - 12-25-2017 08:02 AM
(12-25-2017 05:55 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:(12-25-2017 05:45 AM)quo vadis Wrote: AAC East >>> AAC West
This year it would seem so. First for everything.
Lol, Okay if you omit 2013, 2014, and 2016.
RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread - fanhood - 12-25-2017 08:39 AM
This game is further proof that the Hawaii Bowl was Fresno's Super Bowl, and that Houston players were underwhelmed, as they only get hyped for NY6 Bowls.
RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread - CheeseSndwch - 12-25-2017 08:44 AM
Houston is cursed in Hawaii.
0 - 3
RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread - HuskyU - 12-25-2017 08:46 AM
#FireAACTexasSchools
RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread - pesik - 12-25-2017 08:47 AM
(12-25-2017 08:39 AM)fanhood Wrote: This game is further proof that the Hawaii Bowl was Fresno's Super Bowl, and that Houston players were underwhelmed, as they only get hyped for NY6 Bowls.
literally no one made any excuses.. fresno won
but if we are being honest getting 10 was more important to fresno than us getting 8
. our coach and players didn't even seem upset we lost, presser was more about trick play and ed oliver td. all smile
not a reason for the loss but an observations i noticed
RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread - ultraviolet - 12-25-2017 08:47 AM
(12-25-2017 08:39 AM)fanhood Wrote: This game is further proof that the Hawaii Bowl was Fresno's Super Bowl, and that Houston players were underwhelmed, as they only get hyped for NY6 Bowls.
I prefer the MWC 2nd place team vs our 5th place team who is new to Hawaii while Fresno goes there regularly.
RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread - fanhood - 12-25-2017 08:50 AM
(12-25-2017 08:47 AM)ultraviolet Wrote:(12-25-2017 08:39 AM)fanhood Wrote: This game is further proof that the Hawaii Bowl was Fresno's Super Bowl, and that Houston players were underwhelmed, as they only get hyped for NY6 Bowls.
I prefer the MWC 2nd place team vs our 5th place team who is new to Hawaii while Fresno goes there regularly.
Yup, the neutral field travel experience advantage. I like it.
RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread - quo vadis - 12-25-2017 08:50 AM
(12-25-2017 08:47 AM)pesik Wrote:(12-25-2017 08:39 AM)fanhood Wrote: This game is further proof that the Hawaii Bowl was Fresno's Super Bowl, and that Houston players were underwhelmed, as they only get hyped for NY6 Bowls.
literally no one made any excuses.. fresno won
Stop right there and you're good.
Beyond that, I thought Houston kind of fumbled the game away in the first quarter. You guys were dominating, they didn't get a first down their first 3-4 possessions, and you scored on that beautiful flea-flicker to go up 7-0.
Then, you made a big interception at around their 25 yard line. IMO, at that point it looked like you were going to take it in, go up 14-0 and never look back, game over.
But you Cooged that chance, didn't move the ball and missed the FG. That allowed Fresno to catch their breath, steady their ship, and from that point on it was a ball game with a totally different feel.
RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread - fanhood - 12-25-2017 08:51 AM
(12-25-2017 08:47 AM)pesik Wrote:(12-25-2017 08:39 AM)fanhood Wrote: This game is further proof that the Hawaii Bowl was Fresno's Super Bowl, and that Houston players were underwhelmed, as they only get hyped for NY6 Bowls.
literally no one made any excuses.. fresno won
but if we are being honest getting 10 was more important to fresno than us getting 8
our coach and players didn't even seem upset we lost, presser was more about trick play and ed oliver td. all smile
not a reason for the loss but an observations i noticed
Yea, the players have quit on Applewhite. If Houston would have hired (insert random coach), their superior talent, program and conference advantage would have ensured a Houston victory.
RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread - HuskyU - 12-25-2017 08:54 AM
(12-25-2017 08:51 AM)fanhood Wrote:(12-25-2017 08:47 AM)pesik Wrote:(12-25-2017 08:39 AM)fanhood Wrote: This game is further proof that the Hawaii Bowl was Fresno's Super Bowl, and that Houston players were underwhelmed, as they only get hyped for NY6 Bowls.
literally no one made any excuses.. fresno won
but if we are being honest getting 10 was more important to fresno than us getting 8
our coach and players didn't even seem upset we lost, presser was more about trick play and ed oliver td. all smile
not a reason for the loss but an observations i noticed
Yea, the players have quit on Applewhite. If Houston would have hired (insert random coach), their superior talent, program and conference advantage would have ensured a Houston victory.
Agreed. Similar situation to Ollie at UCONN.
RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread - quo vadis - 12-25-2017 08:57 AM
(12-25-2017 01:03 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote:(12-25-2017 01:01 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:(12-25-2017 12:58 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote:(12-25-2017 12:56 AM)Coog Engineer Wrote:(12-25-2017 12:53 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote: So running up the middle 3 times in a row is not bad play calling? Because that is what applewhite did literally almost the entire year.
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And here we go, another proof you don't know what you're watching. All you saw was run run run.
What you should have seen was QB reads whether to hand off or keep it. When QB makes the right decision, the play works. Make the wrong decision, it doesn't. That's just a small example, and I don't feel like teaching you Advanced Football Execution 4401.
Ok but that still doesn’t explain why you call that play. Why not have king scramble more it worked the few times they tried it. Why not call the same play but rather than having the run up the middle straight into linemen, try running to the outside?
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Just going to chime in real quick. A scramble is not something that is called. Rather its something that happens once a play breaks down.
Well correction then designed QB run. We ran plenty of those with ward and I definitely think we could have easily done the same with king and should have been for that matter.
King has more than a bit of Quinton Flowers in him - for good and for bad. Against USF, he out-Flowered Flowers, and that's no cheap feat. He could well blossom in to a full-blown Flower next year, time is on his side.
Yesterday, he had his moments, but for a significant stretch of the game from late 2nd Q to well in to the 4th Q, he just didn't get the job done.
RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread - 8BitPirate - 12-25-2017 08:59 AM
(12-25-2017 08:51 AM)fanhood Wrote:(12-25-2017 08:47 AM)pesik Wrote:(12-25-2017 08:39 AM)fanhood Wrote: This game is further proof that the Hawaii Bowl was Fresno's Super Bowl, and that Houston players were underwhelmed, as they only get hyped for NY6 Bowls.
literally no one made any excuses.. fresno won
but if we are being honest getting 10 was more important to fresno than us getting 8
our coach and players didn't even seem upset we lost, presser was more about trick play and ed oliver td. all smile
not a reason for the loss but an observations i noticed
Yea, the players have quit on Applewhite. If Houston would have hired (insert random coach), their superior talent, program and conference advantage would have ensured a Houston victory.
Dude, you're just coming across as bitter now. Let it go and enjoy the Peach Bowl.
RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread - pesik - 12-25-2017 08:59 AM
(12-25-2017 08:51 AM)fanhood Wrote:(12-25-2017 08:47 AM)pesik Wrote:(12-25-2017 08:39 AM)fanhood Wrote: This game is further proof that the Hawaii Bowl was Fresno's Super Bowl, and that Houston players were underwhelmed, as they only get hyped for NY6 Bowls.
literally no one made any excuses.. fresno won
but if we are being honest getting 10 was more important to fresno than us getting 8
our coach and players didn't even seem upset we lost, presser was more about trick play and ed oliver td. all smile
not a reason for the loss but an observations i noticed
Yea, the players have quit on Applewhite. If Houston would have hired (insert random coach), their superior talent, program and conference advantage would have ensured a Houston victory.
why are you making up excuses for us that we arent even saying...your responses are super wierd
its like having a misguided perception on someone and trying to force them to be it
no one but west is tripping on the applewhite hire, no one is saying the players quit...my point was even the opposite, the players weren't mad, actually seemed happy when the game was over. the outcome of this game didnt seem to bother them much..a lot of great season, see ya'll next year tweets like 10 mins after the game
RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread - HuskyU - 12-25-2017 09:06 AM
quohood going full-on quohood this morning.
RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread - fanhood - 12-25-2017 09:11 AM
(12-25-2017 08:59 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:(12-25-2017 08:51 AM)fanhood Wrote:(12-25-2017 08:47 AM)pesik Wrote:(12-25-2017 08:39 AM)fanhood Wrote: This game is further proof that the Hawaii Bowl was Fresno's Super Bowl, and that Houston players were underwhelmed, as they only get hyped for NY6 Bowls.
literally no one made any excuses.. fresno won
but if we are being honest getting 10 was more important to fresno than us getting 8
our coach and players didn't even seem upset we lost, presser was more about trick play and ed oliver td. all smile
not a reason for the loss but an observations i noticed
Yea, the players have quit on Applewhite. If Houston would have hired (insert random coach), their superior talent, program and conference advantage would have ensured a Houston victory.
Dude, you're just coming across as bitter now. Let it go and enjoy the Peach Bowl.
What coach should Houston have hired, that would have ensured they did not have embarrassing loses to teams like Fresno?
RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread - pesik - 12-25-2017 09:14 AM
(12-25-2017 09:11 AM)fanhood Wrote:(12-25-2017 08:59 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:(12-25-2017 08:51 AM)fanhood Wrote:(12-25-2017 08:47 AM)pesik Wrote:(12-25-2017 08:39 AM)fanhood Wrote: This game is further proof that the Hawaii Bowl was Fresno's Super Bowl, and that Houston players were underwhelmed, as they only get hyped for NY6 Bowls.
literally no one made any excuses.. fresno won
but if we are being honest getting 10 was more important to fresno than us getting 8
our coach and players didn't even seem upset we lost, presser was more about trick play and ed oliver td. all smile
not a reason for the loss but an observations i noticed
Yea, the players have quit on Applewhite. If Houston would have hired (insert random coach), their superior talent, program and conference advantage would have ensured a Houston victory.
Dude, you're just coming across as bitter now. Let it go and enjoy the Peach Bowl.
What coach should Houston have hired, that would have ensured they did not have embarrassing loses to teams like Fresno?
are you drunk?
literally 1 poster...1 poster has this narrative and you are harping about it... we are fine with applewhite for now
are you still sad about losing to army...