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A solution to college football's inefficient and (often) meaningless postseason - WesternBlazer - 12-03-2017 11:51 PM
https://sports.yahoo.com/heres-make-college-football-playoff-even-better-032144320.html
RE: A solution to college football's inefficient and (often) meaningless postseason - BlazerPhil - 12-04-2017 12:00 AM
I may have even read this here, but here goes :
Five P5 conference champs. Top 2 G5 teams. One wild card. There is your 8 team format.
RE: A solution to college football's inefficient and (often) meaningless postseason - FNblazer - 12-04-2017 12:12 AM
I don’t think they should do away with conference title games, but rather have the auto bid format. Giving the G5 an Autobid is something I hope happens with playoff expansion, although they’ll be very reluctant to do so.
RE: A solution to college football's inefficient and (often) meaningless postseason - WesternBlazer - 12-04-2017 08:06 AM
(12-04-2017 12:00 AM)BlazerPhil Wrote: I may have even read this here, but here goes :
Five P5 conference champs. Top 2 G5 teams. One wild card. There is your 8 team format.
I seriously doubt 2 G5 teams in an 8-team playoff. A single, guaranteed spot for the highest-rated G5 is probably the best we can expect. Even then I suspect, as the author indicates, it will have to be a G5 at a certain ranking. But, if it takes an undefeated G5 to get a #10 ranking who knows if, with those as the stakes, a G5 ever reaches that point in an 8-team playoff.
RE: A solution to college football's inefficient and (often) meaningless postseason - the_blazerman - 12-04-2017 09:18 AM
the problem is that the P5 makes a ton of money off of this setup & do not wish to let go of it.
All other talk is really useless.
Just hope for much chaos as possible so the P5 teams decide to eat themselves.
RE: A solution to college football's inefficient and (often) meaningless postseason - blazers9911 - 12-04-2017 09:27 AM
(12-04-2017 12:12 AM)FNblazer Wrote: I don’t think they should do away with conference title games, but rather have the auto bid format. Giving the G5 an Autobid is something I hope happens with playoff expansion, although they’ll be very reluctant to do so.
Me too. Rarely you have a team finish like 5-3 and win their conference, but you just deal with that.
I don't see how based on the regular season you can separate teams in the 14 team conferences either. We are just guessing who the better team is when they don't actually play in the regular season. If conferences were ten teams I could see this working out, but not the way they are today.
RE: A solution to college football's inefficient and (often) meaningless postseason - the Dragon - 12-04-2017 10:10 AM
Here you go:
12 -team option -
10 conference champions automatically get in. 2 wild cards get in. The playoff committee seeds the 12 teams. #1-4 get a bye. #5-8 host #9-12 on campus in mid December. The host team keeps the gate (worth millions).
The winners advance to play at the top 4 just before Christmas. Again, the host team keeps the gate. Seeds #1-8 make a fortune on the extra game, and it is money that currently doesn't exist, so it isn't taking from someone else.
The semi-finals are in early January, and the final is afterwards.
The TV money for such a tournament would be HUGE, and it could be split between the 12 schools, a certain amount for first roung losers, a little more for second round losers, even more for semi-final losers, more for the final loser, and a grand prize for the winner.
RE: A solution to college football's inefficient and (often) meaningless postseason - BAMANBLAZERFAN - 12-04-2017 04:33 PM
Insurance can be purchased for career ending injury, but what about injuries that just diminish capability making the player a lower draft choice or even an undrafted free agent level. When a playoff system extends the season by 30% or more, the money for the schools is great, but what does it do for the hundreds of athletes who risk their bodies for that money they can't touch?
The two finalist teams will play a 15 game season as it is. A larger playoff field will add additional games with their attendant risks.
RE: A solution to college football's inefficient and (often) meaningless postseason - blazers9911 - 12-04-2017 06:45 PM
No, you get rid of games. There is nothing saying everything else has to stay the same.
RE: A solution to college football's inefficient and (often) meaningless postseason - Shrack - 12-04-2017 07:25 PM
(12-04-2017 10:10 AM)the Dragon Wrote: Here you go:Not to be a downer, but the G5s will simply never have a a guaranteed spot in the playoff other than a single "top G5" team solo spot at best. They certainly won't let conference champs in from G5 conferences. This is all about separating away from everyone else and gobbling up as much money and branding as possible. It is not about including everyone, the college athlete, or keeping good traditions alive
12 -team option -
10 conference champions automatically get in. 2 wild cards get in. The playoff committee seeds the 12 teams. #1-4 get a bye. #5-8 host #9-12 on campus in mid December. The host team keeps the gate (worth millions).
The winners advance to play at the top 4 just before Christmas. Again, the host team keeps the gate. Seeds #1-8 make a fortune on the extra game, and it is money that currently doesn't exist, so it isn't taking from someone else.
The semi-finals are in early January, and the final is afterwards.
The TV money for such a tournament would be HUGE, and it could be split between the 12 schools, a certain amount for first roung losers, a little more for second round losers, even more for semi-final losers, more for the final loser, and a grand prize for the winner.
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RE: A solution to college football's inefficient and (often) meaningless postseason - Doktyr X - 12-04-2017 07:47 PM
The injury risk isn't the problem; most of the players (including many current NFL players too) that try out in 2018 for the NFL are going to be jobless by the end of August 2018. If you decide to play (any sport), you have already accepted the idea that you could be permanently injured. If it is not an acceptable risk, you do not play.
The rare 2 or 3 rookies that are good enough to be starters will practice through July. After that, the season begins with 4 preseason, 16 regular season, maybe 1 - 4 post season, and, if popular enough, the Pro Bowl. That means that this 21 or 22 year old of exceptional talent will practice start in July and may not stop until after the Super Bowl; he could end up in more than 20 pro games in a season lasting almost 8 months.
The bigger problem is that extending the season any further would extend too far into winter term class time.
RE: A solution to college football's inefficient and (often) meaningless postseason - the_blazerman - 12-04-2017 08:47 PM
(12-04-2017 07:25 PM)Shrack Wrote:(12-04-2017 10:10 AM)the Dragon Wrote: Here you go:Not to be a downer, but the G5s will simply never have a a guaranteed spot in the playoff other than a single "top G5" team solo spot at best. They certainly won't let conference champs in from G5 conferences. This is all about separating away from everyone else and gobbling up as much money and branding as possible. It is not about including everyone, the college athlete, or keeping good traditions alive
12 -team option -
10 conference champions automatically get in. 2 wild cards get in. The playoff committee seeds the 12 teams. #1-4 get a bye. #5-8 host #9-12 on campus in mid December. The host team keeps the gate (worth millions).
The winners advance to play at the top 4 just before Christmas. Again, the host team keeps the gate. Seeds #1-8 make a fortune on the extra game, and it is money that currently doesn't exist, so it isn't taking from someone else.
The semi-finals are in early January, and the final is afterwards.
The TV money for such a tournament would be HUGE, and it could be split between the 12 schools, a certain amount for first roung losers, a little more for second round losers, even more for semi-final losers, more for the final loser, and a grand prize for the winner.
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Yep.
RE: A solution to college football's inefficient and (often) meaningless postseason - BAMANBLAZERFAN - 12-05-2017 02:53 AM
(12-04-2017 06:45 PM)blazers9911 Wrote: No, you get rid of games. There is nothing saying everything else has to stay the same.
Which games does a school eliminate? The P5 schools can cut out "buy games" thereby reducing income to G5 schools. As it is, Coaches like Bama's Saban want P5 teams to play only P5 teams now. Florida reportedly paid UAB $1.5 million for the game in Gainesville. What G5 school would replace that payment?
That a P5 school can pay from $800,000 to over $!.5 million for such games tells you how much the P5 team makes off such games. They and their budget and W-L record benefit greatly from such games rolled into season ticket packages as well.