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RE: Report: UCSD Finally Gets Big West Invite - SDHornet - 02-08-2019 11:19 PM (02-01-2019 03:30 AM)joeben69 Wrote:(02-01-2019 01:36 AM)Stugray2 Wrote:(01-29-2019 10:25 PM)joeben69 Wrote: Crowded UC San Diego receives record number of applications for fall enrollment I grew up in SD and UCSD has always been a destination university for 1) top tier academics, 2) being right on the beach, and 3) being in an awesome city. BW membership has nothing to do with UCSD being in high demand by college applicants. RE: Report: UCSD Finally Gets Big West Invite - SDHornet - 02-08-2019 11:22 PM (02-02-2019 03:23 AM)jdgaucho Wrote: A recent interview with Commissioner Dennis Farrell. Looks like CSUB is obligated to do something after all. Those capabilities are pretty standard for D1 programs. I'm surprised Bako wasn't up to snuff yet. RE: Report: UCSD Finally Gets Big West Invite - joeben69 - 06-07-2019 12:47 AM UC San Diego Teams Take Home Honor for Top Overall CCAA Athletic Performance https://timesofsandiego.com/sports/2019/06/06/uc-san-diego-teams-take-home-honors-for-top-ccaa-athletic-performance/ RE: Report: UCSD Finally Gets Big West Invite - joeben69 - 07-06-2019 12:16 AM UCSD Counting Down to Joining Big West, NCAA Division I in 2020 https://timesofsandiego.com/sports/2019/07/04/ucsd-counting-down-to-joining-big-west-ncaa-division-i-in-2020/ RE: Report: UCSD Finally Gets Big West Invite - joeben69 - 07-23-2019 03:09 AM U.C. San Diego Readies for D-I Jump https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/sports/UC-San-Diego-Readies-for-D-I-Jump-513061781.html RE: Report: UCSD Finally Gets Big West Invite - Stugray2 - 07-23-2019 11:57 AM I love the way they talk about spikes in applicants. UC system has been encouraging HS students to apply to multiple campus and more students to apply. So they take any more students as a result of this? No, of course not the system is fully impacted, no more seats to be had, and a minimum of 15% of the seats are reserved for foreign students (they pay full ride, and it covers a portion of the budget without state funding which is maxed out). But every application brings another $70 to the UC system. Increase applications 100,000 and you increase the revenue $6M without adding a single student or a single class. Those students who are sure to get in applying to a 2nd, 3rd and 4th campus bring an extra $180 without impacting anything. I am amazed the article writers are so ignorant of the strategy. Every HS counselor in the state understand that. RE: Report: UCSD Finally Gets Big West Invite - jdgaucho - 07-23-2019 12:41 PM It's not just foreign students. It's also American students from outside California. https://www.forbes.com/sites/kristenmoon/2018/11/15/uc-admissions-why-being-an-out-of-state-student-might-just-work-in-your-favor/#60d3b29a527b UCLA, for example, admitted only 12% of its California applicants while admitting 22% of its out-of-state applicants. UC in San Diego admitted 51% of its out-of-state applicants compared to the 26% of California residents who applied that were granted admission. Wonder if UCSD will start admitting more athletes from outside California. RE: Report: UCSD Finally Gets Big West Invite - Wedge - 07-23-2019 02:12 PM (07-23-2019 11:57 AM)Stugray2 Wrote: I love the way they talk about spikes in applicants. UC system has been encouraging HS students to apply to multiple campus and more students to apply. . . . But every application brings another $60 to the UC system. C'mon, it's nothing new. They've been encouraging students to apply to multiple UC campuses since at least the 1980s. The application fee hasn't even gone up that much -- it's $70 now, I think it was $60 back then. And if the UC system actually calculated how much employee time it takes from receiving each application, to processing it, to notifying each applicant of the decision, to sending out materials to admitted applicants, to sending out more stuff to applicants who accept and then processing what they send back, it would be far more than $70 per application. But students and families would be outraged if universities set application fees high enough to match the average cost of processing an application. RE: Report: UCSD Finally Gets Big West Invite - joeben69 - 07-25-2019 01:27 AM Crowded UC San Diego offers admission to record number of students https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/education/story/2019-07-24/crowded-uc-san-diego-offers-admission-record-number-students RE: Report: UCSD Finally Gets Big West Invite - Stugray2 - 07-25-2019 06:15 PM (07-23-2019 02:12 PM)Wedge Wrote:(07-23-2019 11:57 AM)Stugray2 Wrote: I love the way they talk about spikes in applicants. UC system has been encouraging HS students to apply to multiple campus and more students to apply. . . . But every application brings another $60 to the UC system. You know everything is subsidized in California. They'll never do costs. What I was trying to explain is the total number of applicants to the UC system is not much changed, but the number of applicants per school has gone up as a result of the duplicates. It's a game going on, where the extra money is pocketed. Actually most of the application process is automated, by zip code, GPA and SAT. Do not think for a minute each of those is actually read in depth, only those that need be, near the cut lines for programs or schools. That number is not increasing. So there is really very little cost increase, but there is a huge revenue increase. It would be far easier and cheaper for applicants if the form allowed them to select four campuses, ranking them 1 to 4, and then do a single processing letting them know the majors/schools they would be accepted to. That is a simple form change and you could drop the extra processing fee in half easily, and simplify it with a single application. RE: Report: UCSD Finally Gets Big West Invite - Wedge - 07-25-2019 06:25 PM (07-25-2019 06:15 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:(07-23-2019 02:12 PM)Wedge Wrote:(07-23-2019 11:57 AM)Stugray2 Wrote: I love the way they talk about spikes in applicants. UC system has been encouraging HS students to apply to multiple campus and more students to apply. . . . But every application brings another $60 to the UC system. You are still underestimating the cost of processing applications. The Cal State system recently proposed increasing its application cost to the same $70, and said that they will still be losing money at that rate, just losing less money than they are losing now. The extra money will "help offset" the cost of processing applications, it won't cover it completely. Quote:A $70 per campus application fee would match that of the 10-campus University of California system and many other universities, public and private, around the country, officials said. The $15 increase in each application fee is estimated to produce about $7 million in additional revenue to run the application portal and help offset admissions review costs. Officials said that those programs are operating at a loss since revenue has not gone up in three decades and that other university funds are subsidizing them.https://edsource.org/2019/cal-state-application-fees-expected-to-rise-to-70-per-campus-amid-access-concerns/612775 RE: Report: UCSD Finally Gets Big West Invite - joeben69 - 08-19-2019 02:52 AM With unexpected speed, UC San Diego raises $2 billion in donations to transform campus https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/education/story/2019-08-17/with-unexpected-speed-uc-san-diego-raises-2-billion-in-donations-to-transform-campus RE: Report: UCSD Finally Gets Big West Invite - templefootballfan - 08-19-2019 06:15 AM They raised money to research apathy Who gonna care RE: Report: UCSD Finally Gets Big West Invite - jdgaucho - 08-19-2019 10:34 AM (07-25-2019 01:27 AM)joeben69 Wrote: Crowded UC San Diego offers admission to record number of students How many of them are ballers? Can any sink a putt? RE: Report: UCSD Finally Gets Big West Invite - Wedge - 08-19-2019 01:05 PM (08-19-2019 10:34 AM)jdgaucho Wrote:(07-25-2019 01:27 AM)joeben69 Wrote: Crowded UC San Diego offers admission to record number of students They do pretty well in both of those sports in D-II. We'll have to see how well their coaches recruit for D-I when they get there. RE: Report: UCSD Finally Gets Big West Invite - HawaiiMongoose - 08-20-2019 12:20 AM (08-19-2019 01:05 PM)Wedge Wrote:(08-19-2019 10:34 AM)jdgaucho Wrote:(07-25-2019 01:27 AM)joeben69 Wrote: Crowded UC San Diego offers admission to record number of students UCSD strikes me as a school that really has their act together. I predict that within five years their athletic program will be one of the top two or three in the Big West. I also expect a UCSD-Hawaii rivalry to emerge and I think it’s gonna be fun. RE: Report: UCSD Finally Gets Big West Invite - joeben69 - 08-20-2019 01:44 AM (08-20-2019 12:20 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:(08-19-2019 01:05 PM)Wedge Wrote:(08-19-2019 10:34 AM)jdgaucho Wrote:(07-25-2019 01:27 AM)joeben69 Wrote: Crowded UC San Diego offers admission to record number of students Southwest announces more nonstop service to Hawaii — but not from San Diego https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/business/tourism/story/2019-08-14/southwest-announces-more-nonstop-service-to-hawaii-but-not-from-san-diego LOL RE: Report: UCSD Finally Gets Big West Invite - jdgaucho - 08-20-2019 04:16 AM (08-20-2019 12:20 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:(08-19-2019 01:05 PM)Wedge Wrote:(08-19-2019 10:34 AM)jdgaucho Wrote:(07-25-2019 01:27 AM)joeben69 Wrote: Crowded UC San Diego offers admission to record number of students If UCSD has their act together, they can make some headway in landing quality talent. But it's not just the other BW members who should be concerned about further dilution of in-state talent for recruits. Those concerns will also apply to Fresno State, SJSU and especially San Diego State (the last case mainly for olympic sports). The Aztecs athletic director will never publicly say it, but I suspect the last thing he wants is to have another Division 1 institution in his backyard. Especially one who will be able to compete at a high level. Nonetheless, it's still a sad drop from the acme of a generation ago. In 1990, the Big West and UNLV celebrated a national championship in basketball. In 2020, it will be celebrating some Roadrunners and potentially the start of a UCSD-Hawaii rivalry. RE: Report: UCSD Finally Gets Big West Invite - bluesox - 08-20-2019 09:21 AM San Jose state should drop football and join the big west RE: Report: UCSD Finally Gets Big West Invite - VNova - 08-20-2019 12:07 PM (08-20-2019 04:16 AM)jdgaucho Wrote:(08-20-2019 12:20 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:(08-19-2019 01:05 PM)Wedge Wrote:(08-19-2019 10:34 AM)jdgaucho Wrote:(07-25-2019 01:27 AM)joeben69 Wrote: Crowded UC San Diego offers admission to record number of students At least USD hasn't tried making the jump to FBS and UCSD won't field a football team ever again. For everything else, I don't think UCSD will have issues landing talent. Basketball and Baseball have been doing very well, so it'll be exciting if the Tritons can continue attract talented players at this level. |