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RE: The rise of the violent ALT-Left - Kaplony - 08-17-2017 10:06 AM
(08-17-2017 07:19 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Alt Left is a silly term Sean Hannity came up with to try and pretend there was an equally radical movement on the left as the right. The only people who agree with him are the folks inclined to watch his show and support the Orange.
You are exactly right. We should just call them the left because obviously the vast majority of your side approves of their tactics and actions. There is no radical alt-left...just left.
RE: The rise of the violent ALT-Left - bullet - 08-17-2017 10:12 AM
(08-17-2017 09:40 AM)SUisBigEast4ever Wrote: Charlottesville vice mayor Wes Bellamy resigned after racist, anti-white tweets.
No media coverage on him though. Just some random sites and people on twitter did some digging on him.
https://bunkerville.wordpress.com/2017/0...os-stooge/
They took down the site for some reason but if you put in his name in google and search images you can see most of his racist tweets.
http://www.pacificpundit.com/2017/08/15/charlottesville-democrat-vice-mayor-wes-bellamy-is-a-racist-and-sexist/
A link with it.
RE: The rise of the violent ALT-Left - bullet - 08-17-2017 10:13 AM
CNN actually covered it. http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2017/08/13/charlottesville-virginia-vice-mayor-racist-tweets-protests-newday-weekend.cnn
RE: The rise of the violent ALT-Left - DogPoundNorth - 08-17-2017 10:21 AM
There is no Alt-left, it's just more Nazi propaganda to make yet another false equivalency. There is nothing "equal" to white supremacy. Give it rest.
RE: The rise of the violent ALT-Left - No Bull - 08-17-2017 10:24 AM
(08-17-2017 10:21 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote: There is no Alt-left, it's just more Nazi propaganda to make yet another false equivalency. There is nothing "equal" to white supremacy. Give it rest.
so you equate republican with Nazi's... for real?
RE: The rise of the violent ALT-Left - No Bull - 08-17-2017 10:27 AM
This lady certainly believes in the allt left..click here
There were two groups of people in Charlottesville on Saturday, and both sides, not just the right, must be acknowledged. In fact, Star enraged leftists when she equated the Confederate flag and with the homosexual rainbow flag. They both symbolize that certain people aren’t welcome — blacks for one flag and Christians for the other.
“And as a result, I heard from the Alt-Left,” Star said. “So, for me to pretend that there’s not a strong Alt-Left…My office had to close yesterday, lock its doors as a result of their hate. So for me to sit here and pretend…that hate is not as deeply rooted on the left as it is on the right, I would be disingenuous to the reality that I know.”
RE: The rise of the violent ALT-Left - DefCONNOne - 08-17-2017 10:28 AM
(08-17-2017 10:21 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote: There is no Alt-left, it's just more Nazi propaganda to make yet another false equivalency. There is nothing "equal" to white supremacy. Give it rest.
There is no Alt-Right either. It's just another made up term by the left with which to smear the right with impunity.
RE: The rise of the violent ALT-Left - No Bull - 08-17-2017 10:30 AM
Up in Toronto...they know all about the violent ALT-Left
But not long after I spoke, a bunch of white kids stormed the building, flipped furniture and shouted angrily and nonsensically about fascism and racism towards a peaceful and friendly group of racially diverse people.
The last speaker of the day, Ezra Levant, had to give his remarks outside in the cold because these agitators, some masked, pulled fire alarms.
Luckily, it didn’t get as bad as incidents we've seen in the U.S., where leftist hooligans go after happy warriors. But blocks away in front of the U.S. consulate something more troubling was underway.
RE: The rise of the violent ALT-Left - bullet - 08-17-2017 10:35 AM
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/what-trump-got-right-about-charlottesville/
"In his sometimes clumsy way, Trump was making the same point as New York Times reporter Sheryl Gay Stolberg, who was on the ground in Charlottesville covering the event. She noticed that the far left counter-protesters were intent on instigating violence and tweeted that “the hard left seemed as hate-filled as the alt-right. I saw club-wielding ‘antifa’ beating white nationalists being led out of the park.” Later, perhaps sensing she was in danger of transgressing some sort of unofficial party line, she amended her thought. She added that the leftists were “violent, not hate-filled. They were standing up to hate.” Of course, “standing up to hate” (of whites) is exactly what the alt right would say they are doing as well."
"...Those attending a pro-Trump inaugural ball, “the Deploraball,” were pelted by batteries and bottles and chants of “Nazi Scum” by the same antifa who were protesting in Charlotte. (My wife and I were among those targeted). The Deploraball organizers had in fact gone to considerable lengths to bar white nationalists from involvement in the planning or speaking; it was a pro-Trump, multicultural, and multiracial celebration. But for the antifa, and the vast swarm of left wing social justice warriors, any kind of Trump supporter is “Nazi Scum” by definition, people whose First Amendment rights to speak and gather should be denied.
It was probably Trump’s awareness of this—an extremely important social fact sedulously ignored by vast legions of mainstream media—that prompted Trump to speak out against the violence of both sides. In doing so, he displayed a far more sophisticated understanding of the overall context of political violence in this country than the media mavens who ritually disdain him."
RE: The rise of the violent ALT-Left - No Bull - 08-17-2017 10:38 AM
(08-17-2017 10:35 AM)bullet Wrote: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/what-trump-got-right-about-charlottesville/
"In his sometimes clumsy way, Trump was making the same point as New York Times reporter Sheryl Gay Stolberg, who was on the ground in Charlottesville covering the event. She noticed that the far left counter-protesters were intent on instigating violence and tweeted that “the hard left seemed as hate-filled as the alt-right. I saw club-wielding ‘antifa’ beating white nationalists being led out of the park.” Later, perhaps sensing she was in danger of transgressing some sort of unofficial party line, she amended her thought. She added that the leftists were “violent, not hate-filled. They were standing up to hate.” Of course, “standing up to hate” (of whites) is exactly what the alt right would say they are doing as well."
This is what is so worrisome about an ever growing percentage of the left. It is the group think. Group Think was the main affliction of Nazi Germany in my oipinion...so it is weird the left keeps calling the right Nazi's and Fascists when they so abundantly engage in group think... it is like members of the left are afraid of each other.. I would be amused if it wasn't so fvcking scary.
RE: The rise of the violent ALT-Left - JDTulane - 08-17-2017 10:43 AM
So the right is immune to group think? Yeah OKAY.
RE: The rise of the violent ALT-Left - No Bull - 08-17-2017 10:49 AM
(08-17-2017 10:43 AM)JDTulane Wrote: So the right is immune to group think? Yeah OKAY.
who said that?
I suggests you and yours do a gut check.
You have witnessed many Republican politicians speaking against the President and his Charlottesville remarks... Is that groupthink?
Where are the leaders on the left speaking out against ALT-Left violence? Where are they???
RE: The rise of the violent ALT-Left - JDTulane - 08-17-2017 10:51 AM
(08-17-2017 10:49 AM)No Bull Wrote:(08-17-2017 10:43 AM)JDTulane Wrote: So the right is immune to group think? Yeah OKAY.
who said that?
I suggests you and yours do a gut check.
You have witnessed many Republican politicians speaking against the President and his Charlottesville remarks... Is that groupthink?
Where are the leaders on the left speaking out against ALT-Left violence? Where are they???
I'm pretty sure speaking against Nazism and white supremacy is clear cut bipartisan -edit- unless you're Donald Trump -edit- . And since there's no such thing as the alt-left......
RE: The rise of the violent ALT-Left - bullet - 08-17-2017 10:52 AM
(08-17-2017 10:38 AM)No Bull Wrote:(08-17-2017 10:35 AM)bullet Wrote: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/what-trump-got-right-about-charlottesville/
"In his sometimes clumsy way, Trump was making the same point as New York Times reporter Sheryl Gay Stolberg, who was on the ground in Charlottesville covering the event. She noticed that the far left counter-protesters were intent on instigating violence and tweeted that “the hard left seemed as hate-filled as the alt-right. I saw club-wielding ‘antifa’ beating white nationalists being led out of the park.” Later, perhaps sensing she was in danger of transgressing some sort of unofficial party line, she amended her thought. She added that the leftists were “violent, not hate-filled. They were standing up to hate.” Of course, “standing up to hate” (of whites) is exactly what the alt right would say they are doing as well."
This is what is so worrisome about an ever growing percentage of the left. It is the group think. Group Think was the main affliction of Nazi Germany in my oipinion...so it is weird the left keeps calling the right Nazi's and Fascists when they so abundantly engage in group think... it is like members of the left are afraid of each other.. I would be amused if it wasn't so fvcking scary.
Incapable of independent thought. Nobody who even realizes the emperor has no clothes.
There were a large group of women from my church who went to one of the Women's Marches on Inauguration Day. They wore their crude joke hats (pink hats with cat ears shaped like a ******-"*****" hats) and marched. They were oblivious to how bad it made them and the church look to march as a church group wearing a crude joke. Ministers also participated.
RE: The rise of the violent ALT-Left - No Bull - 08-17-2017 10:57 AM
(08-17-2017 10:51 AM)JDTulane Wrote:(08-17-2017 10:49 AM)No Bull Wrote:(08-17-2017 10:43 AM)JDTulane Wrote: So the right is immune to group think? Yeah OKAY.
who said that?
I suggests you and yours do a gut check.
You have witnessed many Republican politicians speaking against the President and his Charlottesville remarks... Is that groupthink?
Where are the leaders on the left speaking out against ALT-Left violence? Where are they???
I'm pretty sure speaking against Nazism and white supremacy is clear cut bipartisan -edit- unless you're Donald Trump -edit- . And since there's no such thing as the alt-left......
Who in your party address the violence against Trump supporters... or are you saying Republicans have not been punched, kicked and beaten? or do you deny there has been violence perpetrated by people on the left against people on the right? or maybe you just support violence against the right?
RE: The rise of the violent ALT-Left - Hood-rich - 08-17-2017 10:59 AM
(08-17-2017 10:51 AM)JDTulane Wrote:You wouldn't consider Antifa the equivalent of the white supremacists? Both are willing to use violence to get their way.(08-17-2017 10:49 AM)No Bull Wrote:(08-17-2017 10:43 AM)JDTulane Wrote: So the right is immune to group think? Yeah OKAY.
who said that?
I suggests you and yours do a gut check.
You have witnessed many Republican politicians speaking against the President and his Charlottesville remarks... Is that groupthink?
Where are the leaders on the left speaking out against ALT-Left violence? Where are they???
I'm pretty sure speaking against Nazism and white supremacy is clear cut bipartisan -edit- unless you're Donald Trump -edit- . And since there's no such thing as the alt-left......
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RE: The rise of the violent ALT-Left - No Bull - 08-17-2017 11:04 AM
(08-17-2017 10:59 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:(08-17-2017 10:51 AM)JDTulane Wrote:You wouldn't consider Antifa the equivalent of the white supremacists? Both are willing to use violence to get their way.(08-17-2017 10:49 AM)No Bull Wrote:(08-17-2017 10:43 AM)JDTulane Wrote: So the right is immune to group think? Yeah OKAY.
who said that?
I suggests you and yours do a gut check.
You have witnessed many Republican politicians speaking against the President and his Charlottesville remarks... Is that groupthink?
Where are the leaders on the left speaking out against ALT-Left violence? Where are they???
I'm pretty sure speaking against Nazism and white supremacy is clear cut bipartisan -edit- unless you're Donald Trump -edit- . And since there's no such thing as the alt-left......
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Exactly. Who on the Left has denounced Antifa? Schumer? Pelosi? Maxine Waters? Pocahontas? Joe Biden? Corey Booker? Kamala Harris? That dipshiite that was Hillary Clinton's running mate? Who?
RE: The rise of the violent ALT-Left - JDTulane - 08-17-2017 11:05 AM
(08-17-2017 10:59 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:(08-17-2017 10:51 AM)JDTulane Wrote:You wouldn't consider Antifa the equivalent of the white supremacists? Both are willing to use violence to get their way.(08-17-2017 10:49 AM)No Bull Wrote:(08-17-2017 10:43 AM)JDTulane Wrote: So the right is immune to group think? Yeah OKAY.
who said that?
I suggests you and yours do a gut check.
You have witnessed many Republican politicians speaking against the President and his Charlottesville remarks... Is that groupthink?
Where are the leaders on the left speaking out against ALT-Left violence? Where are they???
I'm pretty sure speaking against Nazism and white supremacy is clear cut bipartisan -edit- unless you're Donald Trump -edit- . And since there's no such thing as the alt-left......
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I condemn violent rhetoric and if ANTIFA uses that, I then equate them with other hateful groups. I do not consider Antifa to be some "alt-left" however. I think thats just the creation of a new term so we can put "left" in it to further be divisive.
The alt-right named themselves.
RE: The rise of the violent ALT-Left - No Bull - 08-17-2017 11:08 AM
(08-17-2017 11:05 AM)JDTulane Wrote:(08-17-2017 10:59 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:(08-17-2017 10:51 AM)JDTulane Wrote:You wouldn't consider Antifa the equivalent of the white supremacists? Both are willing to use violence to get their way.(08-17-2017 10:49 AM)No Bull Wrote:(08-17-2017 10:43 AM)JDTulane Wrote: So the right is immune to group think? Yeah OKAY.
who said that?
I suggests you and yours do a gut check.
You have witnessed many Republican politicians speaking against the President and his Charlottesville remarks... Is that groupthink?
Where are the leaders on the left speaking out against ALT-Left violence? Where are they???
I'm pretty sure speaking against Nazism and white supremacy is clear cut bipartisan -edit- unless you're Donald Trump -edit- . And since there's no such thing as the alt-left......
Sent from my SM-J700T using CSNbbs mobile app
I condemn violent rhetoric and if ANTIFA uses that, I then equate them with other hateful groups. I do not consider Antifa to be some "alt-left" however. I think thats just the creation of a new term so we can put "left" in it to further be divisive.
The alt-right named themselves.
If Antifa uses violent rhetoric? You know that they do... what about if they use violence itself?
You don't think Antifa is republican do you...
RE: The rise of the violent ALT-Left - DefCONNOne - 08-17-2017 11:08 AM
(08-17-2017 10:51 AM)JDTulane Wrote:(08-17-2017 10:49 AM)No Bull Wrote:(08-17-2017 10:43 AM)JDTulane Wrote: So the right is immune to group think? Yeah OKAY.
who said that?
I suggests you and yours do a gut check.
You have witnessed many Republican politicians speaking against the President and his Charlottesville remarks... Is that groupthink?
Where are the leaders on the left speaking out against ALT-Left violence? Where are they???
I'm pretty sure speaking against Nazism and white supremacy is clear cut bipartisan -edit- unless you're Donald Trump -edit- . And since there's no such thing as the alt-left......
...then there's no such thing as the Alt-Right.
Finished it for ya.