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Q&A with Norvell - 7/16/17 CA Article - Tiger1983 - 07-16-2017 10:01 AM

It is amazing the progress made by a "can-do" energetic coach with relatively little resources and advantages. It is surreal that we are a legitimate contender to win the AAC and even an Access Bowl slot.

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RE: Q&A with Norvell - 7/16/17 CA Article - holyterror - 07-16-2017 03:53 PM

(07-16-2017 10:01 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  It is amazing the progress made by a "can-do" energetic coach with relatively little resources and advantages. It is surreal that we are a legitimate contender to win the AAC and even an Access Bowl slot.

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That's a great series of articles.


RE: Q&A with Norvell - 7/16/17 CA Article - macgar32 - 07-16-2017 06:19 PM

(07-16-2017 10:01 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  It is amazing the progress made by a "can-do" energetic coach with relatively little resources and advantages. It is surreal that we are a legitimate contender to win the AAC and even an Access Bowl slot.

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Has the can do energetic coach improved from the previous coach or simply held serve.


RE: Q&A with Norvell - 7/16/17 CA Article - bluebacker - 07-16-2017 09:16 PM

(07-16-2017 06:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 10:01 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  It is amazing the progress made by a "can-do" energetic coach with relatively little resources and advantages. It is surreal that we are a legitimate contender to win the AAC and even an Access Bowl slot.

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Has the can do energetic coach improved from the previous coach or simply held serve.

just because your boy Tubby is taking heat is no reason to take it out on Norvelle. Shame on you.


Q&A with Norvell - 7/16/17 CA Article - tiger1016 - 07-16-2017 10:14 PM

(07-16-2017 09:16 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 06:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 10:01 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  It is amazing the progress made by a "can-do" energetic coach with relatively little resources and advantages. It is surreal that we are a legitimate contender to win the AAC and even an Access Bowl slot.

Click Here

Has the can do energetic coach improved from the previous coach or simply held serve.

just because your boy Tubby is taking heat is no reason to take it out on Norvelle. Shame on you.

Good Lawd...are we gonna talk about Tubby on a Norvell thread as well? Sigh


RE: Q&A with Norvell - 7/16/17 CA Article - snowtiger - 07-16-2017 10:59 PM

(07-16-2017 06:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 10:01 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  It is amazing the progress made by a "can-do" energetic coach with relatively little resources and advantages. It is surreal that we are a legitimate contender to win the AAC and even an Access Bowl slot.

Click Here

Has the can do energetic coach improved from the previous coach or simply held serve.

improved...

I've asked around and people in the know say improved.

Can't wait till that season starts---even got my lucky Tiger FB ring handy.


RE: Q&A with Norvell - 7/16/17 CA Article - macgar32 - 07-16-2017 11:54 PM

(07-16-2017 09:16 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 06:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 10:01 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  It is amazing the progress made by a "can-do" energetic coach with relatively little resources and advantages. It is surreal that we are a legitimate contender to win the AAC and even an Access Bowl slot.

Click Here

Has the can do energetic coach improved from the previous coach or simply held serve.

just because your boy Tubby is taking heat is no reason to take it out on Norvelle. Shame on you.

You see I look at Norvelle the same way I look at Tubby. Both did about the same as the previous coach and I am awaiting another season or two before I crown them a success or failure.

No shots no loyalties no differences. Same attitude towards both. Pretty simple logic.


RE: Q&A with Norvell - 7/16/17 CA Article - snowtiger - 07-17-2017 01:19 AM

Riley. Ferguson.


RE: Q&A with Norvell - 7/16/17 CA Article - Stammers - 07-17-2017 08:08 AM

(07-16-2017 11:54 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 09:16 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 06:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 10:01 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  It is amazing the progress made by a "can-do" energetic coach with relatively little resources and advantages. It is surreal that we are a legitimate contender to win the AAC and even an Access Bowl slot.

Click Here

Has the can do energetic coach improved from the previous coach or simply held serve.

just because your boy Tubby is taking heat is no reason to take it out on Norvelle. Shame on you.

You see I look at Norvelle the same way I look at Tubby. Both did about the same as the previous coach and I am awaiting another season or two before I crown them a success or failure.

No shots no loyalties no differences. Same attitude towards both. Pretty simple logic.

I should try to not make fun of you because your case is more sad than anything. This isn't for you, because you won't understand it, but for the benefit of others.

Norvell
- Good facilities that will improve
- Funding at a fraction of P5 level
- Recruited at a higher level than Fuente AND retained many of his recruits from his first class
- 2nd class rated even higher
- First 3 classes, including 2018 class (I think) all rated higher than every single Fuente class
- Flawless PR skills, excellent interviewer, 100% positive
- Talks glowingly of Memphis being a GREAT job
- Has no Saul on his staff
- Season ticket sales at a record level

Tubby
- Absolute state of the art facilities
- Funding on a P5 level
- Horrible recruiting, and filling holes with Jucos
- Ran off 75% of the roster
- No top 100 recruits 2 and probably 3 years running
- Recruiting in Memphis isn't what it was 10 years ago
- Historical losses to end the season
- ZERO PR skills
- Season ticket sales...let's just say that the university hasn't been falling all over itself making the numbers public

I will introduce another concept that will be completely bewildering to you. It is called reasonable expectations. Based on what Norvell has done, one should reasonably expect that he will be able to continue what Fuente built and one could reasonably expect that he will improve on it. The experts see us winning or finishing in the top 2 of the conference and some are even saying that we have a shot at NY6. The perception of the program is clearly on a high.

Based on reasonable expectations, Tubby has torched the program. The experts are predicting that we are not going to do well at all. Experts' opinion don't mean much, but they do mirror the perception of the program locally and nationally.

Last but not least, what would the state of the program be if both coaches left? Norvell would leave a fully stocked roster which will for sure include very good redshirt freshman and a national perception of a program on the rise. Tubby would leave the program torched.

Quote: Pretty simple logic.

This one made me laugh. You have as much chance of achieving this as you do, flying to the moon in a space ship.


RE: Q&A with Norvell - 7/16/17 CA Article - Tiger1983 - 07-17-2017 08:09 AM

(07-16-2017 06:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 10:01 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  It is amazing the progress made by a "can-do" energetic coach with relatively little resources and advantages. It is surreal that we are a legitimate contender to win the AAC and even an Access Bowl slot.

Click Here

Has the can do energetic coach improved from the previous coach or simply held serve.

From a record perspective he held serve last year while breaking in a new QB. The indicators (e.g. returning players, new recruits, new transfers, increased ticket sales, favorable press coverage, and predictions placing us among the G5 best) for the upcoming season and forward are almost all positive. I am very pleased with the job performed by Norvell and his staff. It is almost a miracle.


RE: Q&A with Norvell - 7/16/17 CA Article - Tiger1983 - 07-17-2017 08:16 AM

(07-16-2017 10:59 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 06:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 10:01 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  It is amazing the progress made by a "can-do" energetic coach with relatively little resources and advantages. It is surreal that we are a legitimate contender to win the AAC and even an Access Bowl slot.

Click Here

Has the can do energetic coach improved from the previous coach or simply held serve.

improved...

I've asked around and people in the know say improved.

Can't wait till that season starts---even got my lucky Tiger FB ring handy.

I like that Norvell does not bemoan limitations, but rather optimizes opportunities in a pro active manner.


RE: Q&A with Norvell - 7/16/17 CA Article - macgar32 - 07-17-2017 11:04 AM

(07-17-2017 08:09 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 06:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 10:01 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  It is amazing the progress made by a "can-do" energetic coach with relatively little resources and advantages. It is surreal that we are a legitimate contender to win the AAC and even an Access Bowl slot.

Click Here

Has the can do energetic coach improved from the previous coach or simply held serve.

From a record perspective he held serve last year while breaking in a new QB. The indicators (e.g. returning players, new recruits, new transfers, increased ticket sales, favorable press coverage, and predictions placing us among the G5 best) for the upcoming season and forward are almost all positive. I am very pleased with the job performed by Norvell and his staff. It is almost a miracle.

I am pleased with his performance as well but it could turn either way this year as he inherited a good team and continued. I wouldn't come anywhere near calling it a miracle...I would call it maintaining what Fuente built for year one.

Now we need to see if he can groom his own leaders in his program and build an environment that leads to success over the long term. He did a good job with gameplanning and recruiting now we see if his system can maintain over a period of time or if he benefitted from good leadership from the previous regime. All I am saying is there is not enough data to say Norvelle can sustain success although signs are good.

Just like there is not enough data to say Tubby will fail although the signs are bad.


RE: Q&A with Norvell - 7/16/17 CA Article - snowtiger - 07-17-2017 11:29 AM

rolls eyes


RE: Q&A with Norvell - 7/16/17 CA Article - snowtiger - 07-17-2017 11:30 AM

Norvell is da bomb!


RE: Q&A with Norvell - 7/16/17 CA Article - UofMemphis - 07-17-2017 11:35 AM

(07-17-2017 08:16 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 10:59 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 06:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 10:01 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  It is amazing the progress made by a "can-do" energetic coach with relatively little resources and advantages. It is surreal that we are a legitimate contender to win the AAC and even an Access Bowl slot.

Click Here

Has the can do energetic coach improved from the previous coach or simply held serve.

improved...

I've asked around and people in the know say improved.

Can't wait till that season starts---even got my lucky Tiger FB ring handy.

I like that Norvell does not bemoan limitations, but rather optimizes opportunities in a pro active manner.

keep trying...you'll hook one eventually...


RE: Q&A with Norvell - 7/16/17 CA Article - snowtiger - 07-17-2017 11:45 AM

Only the little ones are left...ya gotta throw those back in.


RE: Q&A with Norvell - 7/16/17 CA Article - TiminMem23 - 07-17-2017 12:30 PM

(07-17-2017 11:04 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(07-17-2017 08:09 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 06:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 10:01 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  It is amazing the progress made by a "can-do" energetic coach with relatively little resources and advantages. It is surreal that we are a legitimate contender to win the AAC and even an Access Bowl slot.

Click Here

Has the can do energetic coach improved from the previous coach or simply held serve.

From a record perspective he held serve last year while breaking in a new QB. The indicators (e.g. returning players, new recruits, new transfers, increased ticket sales, favorable press coverage, and predictions placing us among the G5 best) for the upcoming season and forward are almost all positive. I am very pleased with the job performed by Norvell and his staff. It is almost a miracle.

I am pleased with his performance as well but it could turn either way this year as he inherited a good team and continued. I wouldn't come anywhere near calling it a miracle...I would call it maintaining what Fuente built for year one.

Now we need to see if he can groom his own leaders in his program and build an environment that leads to success over the long term. He did a good job with gameplanning and recruiting now we see if his system can maintain over a period of time or if he benefitted from good leadership from the previous regime. All I am saying is there is not enough data to say Norvelle can sustain success although signs are good.

Just like there is not enough data to say Tubby will fail although the signs are bad.

Nice job purposefully misspelling Norvell's name. Very mature tactic. What's next: are you going to call him a poopy head?

Norvell is the man. Excitement over the football team is at an all-time high. Interest in the bball team is at an all-time low.


RE: Q&A with Norvell - 7/16/17 CA Article - Tiger1983 - 07-17-2017 12:47 PM

(07-17-2017 11:35 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(07-17-2017 08:16 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 10:59 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 06:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 10:01 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  It is amazing the progress made by a "can-do" energetic coach with relatively little resources and advantages. It is surreal that we are a legitimate contender to win the AAC and even an Access Bowl slot.

Click Here

Has the can do energetic coach improved from the previous coach or simply held serve.

improved...

I've asked around and people in the know say improved.

Can't wait till that season starts---even got my lucky Tiger FB ring handy.

I like that Norvell does not bemoan limitations, but rather optimizes opportunities in a pro active manner.

keep trying...you'll hook one eventually...

03-confused You do not approve of Norvell's approach or disagree he adopts the approach I described?


RE: Q&A with Norvell - 7/16/17 CA Article - UofMemphis - 07-17-2017 01:05 PM

(07-17-2017 12:47 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(07-17-2017 11:35 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(07-17-2017 08:16 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 10:59 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 06:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Has the can do energetic coach improved from the previous coach or simply held serve.

improved...

I've asked around and people in the know say improved.

Can't wait till that season starts---even got my lucky Tiger FB ring handy.

I like that Norvell does not bemoan limitations, but rather optimizes opportunities in a pro active manner.

keep trying...you'll hook one eventually...

03-confused You do not approve of Norvell's approach or disagree he adopts the approach I described?

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Q&A with Norvell - 7/16/17 CA Article - tiger1016 - 07-17-2017 01:10 PM

OMG thread derailed again
SMDH

Some folks unhappy with Tubby could not refrain from bringing him up in a thread about Norvell...SMH