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Carrier layoffs - Rob - 06-03-2017 09:47 AM

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-carrier-layoffs-trump-20170525-story.html

RE: Carrier layoffs - Crebman - 06-03-2017 09:51 AM

(06-03-2017 09:47 AM)Rob Wrote:  http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-carrier-layoffs-trump-20170525-story.html

800 remaining is still better than none.

Unfortunately this will continue until the US has tax reform that makes it more attractive to stay and make stuff here.

RE: Carrier layoffs - Rob - 06-03-2017 09:55 AM

(06-03-2017 09:51 AM)Crebman Wrote:  
(06-03-2017 09:47 AM)Rob Wrote:  http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-carrier-layoffs-trump-20170525-story.html

800 remaining is still better than none.

Unfortunately this will continue until the US has tax reform that makes it more attractive to stay and make stuff here.

So we are content with companies holding us hostage? Give us money and we'll only send some of our jobs elsewhere. This doesn't seem Conservative or tenable.

RE: Carrier layoffs - Owl 69/70/75 - 06-03-2017 10:00 AM

(06-03-2017 09:55 AM)Rob Wrote:  
(06-03-2017 09:51 AM)Crebman Wrote:  
(06-03-2017 09:47 AM)Rob Wrote:  http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-carrier-layoffs-trump-20170525-story.html
800 remaining is still better than none.
Unfortunately this will continue until the US has tax reform that makes it more attractive to stay and make stuff here.
So we are content with companies holding us hostage? Give us money and we'll only send some of our jobs elsewhere. This doesn't seem Conservative or tenable.

When our tax system imposes severe negative consequences on them for staying here, what do you expect them to do?

If we close the gap, they will stay. If we don't, they really have no choice but to leave.

RE: Carrier layoffs - Rob - 06-03-2017 10:15 AM

(06-03-2017 10:00 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(06-03-2017 09:55 AM)Rob Wrote:  
(06-03-2017 09:51 AM)Crebman Wrote:  
(06-03-2017 09:47 AM)Rob Wrote:  http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-carrier-layoffs-trump-20170525-story.html
800 remaining is still better than none.
Unfortunately this will continue until the US has tax reform that makes it more attractive to stay and make stuff here.
So we are content with companies holding us hostage? Give us money and we'll only send some of our jobs elsewhere. This doesn't seem Conservative or tenable.

When our tax system imposes severe negative consequences on them for staying here, what do you expect them to do?

If we close the gap, they will stay. If we don't, they really have no choice but to leave.

I agree. The problem is that Trump paraded this as "mission accomplished" when nothing had been done to address the problem. He essentially paid Carrier to send jobs to Mexico. If he lowers corporate tax rates, I'll be happy, but I didn't like this deal then and don't like it now. It was a really expensive PR stunt.

RE: Carrier layoffs - Paul M - 06-03-2017 10:17 AM

Yeah, never got the whole patting Trump on the back over a few jobs. He gets tax reform through so all the jobs stay then he's earned a pat on the back.

RE: Carrier layoffs - shere khan - 06-03-2017 10:18 AM

(06-03-2017 09:55 AM)Rob Wrote:  
(06-03-2017 09:51 AM)Crebman Wrote:  
(06-03-2017 09:47 AM)Rob Wrote:  http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-carrier-layoffs-trump-20170525-story.html

800 remaining is still better than none.

Unfortunately this will continue until the US has tax reform that makes it more attractive to stay and make stuff here.

So we are content with companies holding us hostage? Give us money and we'll only send some of our jobs elsewhere. This doesn't seem Conservative or tenable.
Where the hell have you been since nafta. Its just now starting to slow down. Good grief

RE: Carrier layoffs - Owl 69/70/75 - 06-03-2017 10:21 AM

(06-03-2017 10:15 AM)Rob Wrote:  I agree. The problem is that Trump paraded this as "mission accomplished" when nothing had been done to address the problem. He essentially paid Carrier to send jobs to Mexico. If he lowers corporate tax rates, I'll be happy, but I didn't like this deal then and don't like it now. It was a really expensive PR stunt.

But bread and circuses are what works with the American people, unfortunately. Do a stunt like this and he's bringing jobs home. Adopt competitive tax rates that bring millions of jobs home and he's giving away to the "rich."

RE: Carrier layoffs - Owl 69/70/75 - 06-03-2017 10:22 AM

(06-03-2017 10:18 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Where the hell have you been since nafta. Its just now starting to slow down. Good grief

NAFTA had nothing to do with it. They were going away in droves before NAFTA. Same with TPP. We didn't pass it, and they are still going away in droves--to what would have been our TPP partners.

RE: Carrier layoffs - Rob - 06-03-2017 10:42 AM

(06-03-2017 10:18 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(06-03-2017 09:55 AM)Rob Wrote:  
(06-03-2017 09:51 AM)Crebman Wrote:  
(06-03-2017 09:47 AM)Rob Wrote:  http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-carrier-layoffs-trump-20170525-story.html

800 remaining is still better than none.

Unfortunately this will continue until the US has tax reform that makes it more attractive to stay and make stuff here.

So we are content with companies holding us hostage? Give us money and we'll only send some of our jobs elsewhere. This doesn't seem Conservative or tenable.
Where the hell have you been since nafta. Its just now starting to slow down. Good grief

Huh?

RE: Carrier layoffs - MplsBison - 06-03-2017 10:45 AM

(06-03-2017 10:00 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  If we close the gap, they will stay.

This is only an idea.

It might be some degree of correct ... but it's nothing close to a universal guarantee.

RE: Carrier layoffs - Bull_Is_Back - 06-03-2017 10:54 AM

(06-03-2017 09:55 AM)Rob Wrote:  
(06-03-2017 09:51 AM)Crebman Wrote:  
(06-03-2017 09:47 AM)Rob Wrote:  http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-carrier-layoffs-trump-20170525-story.html

800 remaining is still better than none.

Unfortunately this will continue until the US has tax reform that makes it more attractive to stay and make stuff here.

So we are content with companies holding us hostage? Give us money and we'll only send some of our jobs elsewhere. This doesn't seem Conservative or tenable.

The alternative is to not have business friendly environment, companies all leave and people need to rely on the government for food. That doesn't seem tenable but it's sure progressive.

RE: Carrier layoffs - Bull_Is_Back - 06-03-2017 10:59 AM

(06-03-2017 10:17 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Yeah, never got the whole patting Trump on the back over a few jobs. He gets tax reform through so all the jobs stay then he's earned a pat on the back.

The patting was because it was a populist move.... He went small scale to help some folks. The Trump haters and the NeverTrumpers continue to try and find fault with the attempt.

RE: Carrier layoffs - Rob - 06-03-2017 11:00 AM

(06-03-2017 10:54 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(06-03-2017 09:55 AM)Rob Wrote:  
(06-03-2017 09:51 AM)Crebman Wrote:  
(06-03-2017 09:47 AM)Rob Wrote:  http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-carrier-layoffs-trump-20170525-story.html

800 remaining is still better than none.

Unfortunately this will continue until the US has tax reform that makes it more attractive to stay and make stuff here.

So we are content with companies holding us hostage? Give us money and we'll only send some of our jobs elsewhere. This doesn't seem Conservative or tenable.

The alternative is to not have business friendly environment, companies all leave and people need to rely on the government for food. That doesn't seem tenable but it's sure progressive.

No, it's not either the dumb far right wing side or the dumb far left wing side.

RE: Carrier layoffs - Owl 69/70/75 - 06-03-2017 11:01 AM

(06-03-2017 10:54 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(06-03-2017 09:55 AM)Rob Wrote:  
(06-03-2017 09:51 AM)Crebman Wrote:  
(06-03-2017 09:47 AM)Rob Wrote:  http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-carrier-layoffs-trump-20170525-story.html
800 remaining is still better than none.
Unfortunately this will continue until the US has tax reform that makes it more attractive to stay and make stuff here.
So we are content with companies holding us hostage? Give us money and we'll only send some of our jobs elsewhere. This doesn't seem Conservative or tenable.
The alternative is to not have business friendly environment, companies all leave and people need to rely on the government for food. That doesn't seem tenable but it's sure progressive.

The democrats' wet dream.

RE: Carrier layoffs - cb4029 - 06-03-2017 11:33 AM

(06-03-2017 10:59 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(06-03-2017 10:17 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Yeah, never got the whole patting Trump on the back over a few jobs. He gets tax reform through so all the jobs stay then he's earned a pat on the back.

The patting was because it was a populist move.... He went small scale to help some folks. The Trump haters and the NeverTrumpers continue to try and find fault with the attempt.

It was just a photo op, plain and simple. Trump only cares about looking good, not actually being good. lol

RE: Carrier layoffs - LeFlâneur - 06-03-2017 11:40 AM

(06-03-2017 11:33 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  It was just a photo op, plain and simple. Trump only cares about looking good, not actually being good. lol

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RE: Carrier layoffs - DFWMINER - 06-03-2017 12:38 PM

(06-03-2017 10:45 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  
(06-03-2017 10:00 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  If we close the gap, they will stay.

This is only an idea.

It might be some degree of correct ... but it's nothing close to a universal guarantee.

Businesses will go where the result is making the most profits.

RE: Carrier layoffs - Hood-rich - 06-03-2017 12:44 PM

(06-03-2017 10:45 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  
(06-03-2017 10:00 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  If we close the gap, they will stay.

This is only an idea.

It might be some degree of correct ... but it's nothing close to a universal guarantee.
nothing is a "universal guarantee"

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RE: Carrier layoffs - Hood-rich - 06-03-2017 12:45 PM

(06-03-2017 11:00 AM)Rob Wrote:  
(06-03-2017 10:54 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(06-03-2017 09:55 AM)Rob Wrote:  
(06-03-2017 09:51 AM)Crebman Wrote:  
(06-03-2017 09:47 AM)Rob Wrote:  http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-carrier-layoffs-trump-20170525-story.html

800 remaining is still better than none.

Unfortunately this will continue until the US has tax reform that makes it more attractive to stay and make stuff here.

So we are content with companies holding us hostage? Give us money and we'll only send some of our jobs elsewhere. This doesn't seem Conservative or tenable.

The alternative is to not have business friendly environment, companies all leave and people need to rely on the government for food. That doesn't seem tenable but it's sure progressive.

No, it's not either the dumb far right wing side or the dumb far left wing side.
so it's someplace in the middle. imagine that.

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