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RE: Will your OOC basketball schedule be American Strong? - UofMemphis - 07-04-2017 10:21 AM
(07-04-2017 07:56 AM)pesik Wrote:(07-04-2017 06:44 AM)Cubanbull Wrote: USF announced our nonconference schedule
Nov 10 Florida Atlantic 280
Nov 13 Morgan State 326
Nov 15 at Stetson 327
Nov 19 at Indiana 82
Nov 22 Howard 339
Nov 24 Arkansas State 114
Nov 26 Eastern Michigan 178 (12-17)
Nov 30 at Elon 163
Dec 2. at Appalachian State 295
Dec 11 Florida International 337
Dec 14 Bethune Cookman 347
Dec 18 Northern Arizona 335
Dec 21 Charlotte 245
I like our schedule for the team that we will have this year. We are expected to be at the bottom of league, so the schedule is one we should handle. We need to beat those lower RPI teams and come out better than .500 I would hope 8-5 at least
your schedule is actually horrific ..extremely horrific ...and coming 8-5 out of that will destroy the league...
if you're going to schedule horribly you have to win most of it.. 10-3 on that schedule is a must..if you expect losses throw some good rpi games in there
we honestly need a scheduling mandate. too many teams have this mentality of "we are supposed to be horrible this year so a horrible schedule is probably better for us".. thats how you eventually end up a 1 bid league..we have the lowest ranked OOC sos ranking by any power conference and below 5 other conference who are mid-major
usf was by far the lowest rpi team of any power conference +a10/wcc (similar horrible schedule last year)...Oregon state on only 4 wins was ranked 40 spots higher ...
its a trickling effect..then memphis had the most wins of any power conference team not to make the NIT/ncaa
then smu and uc on 30 wins are only 5-6 seeds in the tourney
and pride plays into it too...Tulane schedules great because theylll do buy games...ecu/ usf are too proud to to that...and what good team wants to schedule a home and home with 260+ rpi teams
this isnt a knock on on those teams either, houston is the exact same way...we have a decent schedule this season because are expected to be a top 100 rpi team..but when we are projected bad,, our schedules are just as bad....
put a mandate of 1 top 50 rpi team and 2 other top 100 rpis, in the previous season (or projected by the aac staff) minimum/ no more than 2 300+ rpi games...or you lose ncaa credit money...make teams push their pride aside
just speaking from a houston standpoint we are too proud to do buy games unless we are forced even if we knew it would help the conference
Memphis got destroyed in our final 2 games...that played a BIG role in our not making the NIT...NIT folks knew Memphis fans wouldn't be lining up for tickets to see our team potentially get beat up again.
if USF is able to squeeze 10 OOC wins out of that schedule It'll be an improvement over last season.
RE: Will your OOC basketball schedule be American Strong? - TU4ever - 07-04-2017 10:37 AM
(07-04-2017 10:21 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:(07-04-2017 07:56 AM)pesik Wrote:(07-04-2017 06:44 AM)Cubanbull Wrote: USF announced our nonconference schedule
Nov 10 Florida Atlantic 280
Nov 13 Morgan State 326
Nov 15 at Stetson 327
Nov 19 at Indiana 82
Nov 22 Howard 339
Nov 24 Arkansas State 114
Nov 26 Eastern Michigan 178 (12-17)
Nov 30 at Elon 163
Dec 2. at Appalachian State 295
Dec 11 Florida International 337
Dec 14 Bethune Cookman 347
Dec 18 Northern Arizona 335
Dec 21 Charlotte 245
I like our schedule for the team that we will have this year. We are expected to be at the bottom of league, so the schedule is one we should handle. We need to beat those lower RPI teams and come out better than .500 I would hope 8-5 at least
your schedule is actually horrific ..extremely horrific ...and coming 8-5 out of that will destroy the league...
if you're going to schedule horribly you have to win most of it.. 10-3 on that schedule is a must..if you expect losses throw some good rpi games in there
we honestly need a scheduling mandate. too many teams have this mentality of "we are supposed to be horrible this year so a horrible schedule is probably better for us".. thats how you eventually end up a 1 bid league..we have the lowest ranked OOC sos ranking by any power conference and below 5 other conference who are mid-major
usf was by far the lowest rpi team of any power conference +a10/wcc (similar horrible schedule last year)...Oregon state on only 4 wins was ranked 40 spots higher ...
its a trickling effect..then memphis had the most wins of any power conference team not to make the NIT/ncaa
then smu and uc on 30 wins are only 5-6 seeds in the tourney
and pride plays into it too...Tulane schedules great because theylll do buy games...ecu/ usf are too proud to to that...and what good team wants to schedule a home and home with 260+ rpi teams
this isnt a knock on on those teams either, houston is the exact same way...we have a decent schedule this season because are expected to be a top 100 rpi team..but when we are projected bad,, our schedules are just as bad....
put a mandate of 1 top 50 rpi team and 2 other top 100 rpis, in the previous season (or projected by the aac staff) minimum/ no more than 2 300+ rpi games...or you lose ncaa credit money...make teams push their pride aside
just speaking from a houston standpoint we are too proud to do buy games unless we are forced even if we knew it would help the conference
Memphis got destroyed in our final 2 games...that played a BIG role in our not making the NIT...NIT folks knew Memphis fans wouldn't be lining up for tickets to see our team potentially get beat up again.
if USF is able to squeeze 10 OOC wins out of that schedule It'll be an improvement over last season.
True, clearly that was the height of the daddy lawson nonsense.
I would say that was the end of the pastner hang over, he and Tubby recruit clearly different players and few would be able to play for both as their styles are so contrasting. Not knocking either one just a big change for the program.
I doubt you will see any horror stories games this year. If you can steal two or three I think NIT is highly likely. If Tubby has got the sort of players who will buy in and make a team greater than the sum of its part you're NIT bound for sure, maybe NCAA's.
I expect you will be dancing.the year after.
RE: Will your OOC basketball schedule be American Strong? - TU4ever - 07-04-2017 10:39 AM
(07-04-2017 10:21 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:(07-04-2017 07:56 AM)pesik Wrote:(07-04-2017 06:44 AM)Cubanbull Wrote: USF announced our nonconference schedule
Nov 10 Florida Atlantic 280
Nov 13 Morgan State 326
Nov 15 at Stetson 327
Nov 19 at Indiana 82
Nov 22 Howard 339
Nov 24 Arkansas State 114
Nov 26 Eastern Michigan 178 (12-17)
Nov 30 at Elon 163
Dec 2. at Appalachian State 295
Dec 11 Florida International 337
Dec 14 Bethune Cookman 347
Dec 18 Northern Arizona 335
Dec 21 Charlotte 245
I like our schedule for the team that we will have this year. We are expected to be at the bottom of league, so the schedule is one we should handle. We need to beat those lower RPI teams and come out better than .500 I would hope 8-5 at least
your schedule is actually horrific ..extremely horrific ...and coming 8-5 out of that will destroy the league...
if you're going to schedule horribly you have to win most of it.. 10-3 on that schedule is a must..if you expect losses throw some good rpi games in there
we honestly need a scheduling mandate. too many teams have this mentality of "we are supposed to be horrible this year so a horrible schedule is probably better for us".. thats how you eventually end up a 1 bid league..we have the lowest ranked OOC sos ranking by any power conference and below 5 other conference who are mid-major
usf was by far the lowest rpi team of any power conference +a10/wcc (similar horrible schedule last year)...Oregon state on only 4 wins was ranked 40 spots higher ...
its a trickling effect..then memphis had the most wins of any power conference team not to make the NIT/ncaa
then smu and uc on 30 wins are only 5-6 seeds in the tourney
and pride plays into it too...Tulane schedules great because theylll do buy games...ecu/ usf are too proud to to that...and what good team wants to schedule a home and home with 260+ rpi teams
this isnt a knock on on those teams either, houston is the exact same way...we have a decent schedule this season because are expected to be a top 100 rpi team..but when we are projected bad,, our schedules are just as bad....
put a mandate of 1 top 50 rpi team and 2 other top 100 rpis, in the previous season (or projected by the aac staff) minimum/ no more than 2 300+ rpi games...or you lose ncaa credit money...make teams push their pride aside
just speaking from a houston standpoint we are too proud to do buy games unless we are forced even if we knew it would help the conference
Memphis got destroyed in our final 2 games...that played a BIG role in our not making the NIT...NIT folks knew Memphis fans wouldn't be lining up for tickets to see our team potentially get beat up again.
if USF is able to squeeze 10 OOC wins out of that schedule It'll be an improvement over last season.
The first 3 and last 5 for USF are awful, take those out and fill in with more of the games in the middle and that would be a good schedule
RE: Will your OOC basketball schedule be American Strong? - UofMemphis - 07-04-2017 10:55 AM
(07-04-2017 10:37 AM)TU4ever Wrote:(07-04-2017 10:21 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:(07-04-2017 07:56 AM)pesik Wrote:(07-04-2017 06:44 AM)Cubanbull Wrote: USF announced our nonconference schedule
Nov 10 Florida Atlantic 280
Nov 13 Morgan State 326
Nov 15 at Stetson 327
Nov 19 at Indiana 82
Nov 22 Howard 339
Nov 24 Arkansas State 114
Nov 26 Eastern Michigan 178 (12-17)
Nov 30 at Elon 163
Dec 2. at Appalachian State 295
Dec 11 Florida International 337
Dec 14 Bethune Cookman 347
Dec 18 Northern Arizona 335
Dec 21 Charlotte 245
I like our schedule for the team that we will have this year. We are expected to be at the bottom of league, so the schedule is one we should handle. We need to beat those lower RPI teams and come out better than .500 I would hope 8-5 at least
your schedule is actually horrific ..extremely horrific ...and coming 8-5 out of that will destroy the league...
if you're going to schedule horribly you have to win most of it.. 10-3 on that schedule is a must..if you expect losses throw some good rpi games in there
we honestly need a scheduling mandate. too many teams have this mentality of "we are supposed to be horrible this year so a horrible schedule is probably better for us".. thats how you eventually end up a 1 bid league..we have the lowest ranked OOC sos ranking by any power conference and below 5 other conference who are mid-major
usf was by far the lowest rpi team of any power conference +a10/wcc (similar horrible schedule last year)...Oregon state on only 4 wins was ranked 40 spots higher ...
its a trickling effect..then memphis had the most wins of any power conference team not to make the NIT/ncaa
then smu and uc on 30 wins are only 5-6 seeds in the tourney
and pride plays into it too...Tulane schedules great because theylll do buy games...ecu/ usf are too proud to to that...and what good team wants to schedule a home and home with 260+ rpi teams
this isnt a knock on on those teams either, houston is the exact same way...we have a decent schedule this season because are expected to be a top 100 rpi team..but when we are projected bad,, our schedules are just as bad....
put a mandate of 1 top 50 rpi team and 2 other top 100 rpis, in the previous season (or projected by the aac staff) minimum/ no more than 2 300+ rpi games...or you lose ncaa credit money...make teams push their pride aside
just speaking from a houston standpoint we are too proud to do buy games unless we are forced even if we knew it would help the conference
Memphis got destroyed in our final 2 games...that played a BIG role in our not making the NIT...NIT folks knew Memphis fans wouldn't be lining up for tickets to see our team potentially get beat up again.
if USF is able to squeeze 10 OOC wins out of that schedule It'll be an improvement over last season.
True, clearly that was the height of the daddy lawson nonsense.
I would say that was the end of the pastner hang over, he and Tubby recruit clearly different players and few would be able to play for both as their styles are so contrasting. Not knocking either one just a big change for the program.
I doubt you will see any horror stories games this year. If you can steal two or three I think NIT is highly likely. If Tubby has got the sort of players who will buy in and make a team greater than the sum of its part you're NIT bound for sure, maybe NCAA's.
I expect you will be dancing.the year after.
yeah, looking back on it Tubby should have just 'pulled the band aid off' immediately after being hired and said 'I won't offer a job to a players parent just to keep em'
the Lawson's would have left and we could be half way through the healing process.
I get it, though...fans were pressuring the new coach to keep them...and they are two highly rated four-star players...I get trying to find a happy medium.
RE: Will your OOC basketball schedule be American Strong? - Cubanbull - 07-04-2017 03:57 PM
(07-04-2017 07:56 AM)pesik Wrote:(07-04-2017 06:44 AM)Cubanbull Wrote: USF announced our nonconference schedule
Nov 10 Florida Atlantic 280
Nov 13 Morgan State 326
Nov 15 at Stetson 327
Nov 19 at Indiana 82
Nov 22 Howard 339
Nov 24 Arkansas State 114
Nov 26 Eastern Michigan 178 (12-17)
Nov 30 at Elon 163
Dec 2. at Appalachian State 295
Dec 11 Florida International 337
Dec 14 Bethune Cookman 347
Dec 18 Northern Arizona 335
Dec 21 Charlotte 245
I like our schedule for the team that we will have this year. We are expected to be at the bottom of league, so the schedule is one we should handle. We need to beat those lower RPI teams and come out better than .500 I would hope 8-5 at least
your schedule is actually horrific ..extremely horrific ...and coming 8-5 out of that will destroy the league...
if you're going to schedule horribly you have to win most of it.. 10-3 on that schedule is a must..if you expect losses throw some good rpi games in there
we honestly need a scheduling mandate. too many teams have this mentality of "we are supposed to be horrible this year so a horrible schedule is probably better for us".. thats how you eventually end up a 1 bid league..we have the lowest ranked OOC sos ranking by any power conference and below 5 other conference who are mid-major
usf was by far the lowest rpi team of any power conference +a10/wcc (similar horrible schedule last year)...Oregon state on only 4 wins was ranked 40 spots higher ...
its a trickling effect..then memphis had the most wins of any power conference team not to make the NIT/ncaa
then smu and uc on 30 wins are only 5-6 seeds in the tourney
and pride plays into it too...Tulane schedules great because theylll do buy games...ecu/ usf are too proud to to that...and what good team wants to schedule a home and home with 260+ rpi teams
this isnt a knock on on those teams either, houston is the exact same way...we have a decent schedule this season because are expected to be a top 100 rpi team..but when we are projected bad,, our schedules are just as bad....
put a mandate of 1 top 50 rpi team and 2 other top 100 rpis, in the previous season (or projected by the aac staff) minimum/ no more than 2 300+ rpi games...or you lose ncaa credit money...make teams push their pride aside
just speaking from a houston standpoint we are too proud to do buy games unless we are forced even if we knew it would help the conference
Give me a break. USF returns two players from last year's horrific team. THAT TEAM WENT 7-23 and had an RPI of 317. The rest of the team is a patch up job by a head coach that didn't have time to recruit. You are fooling yourself if you think this team would start or end with an RPI higher than 250
It is what is, this year's team will be lucky to get to 10 wins period, so if ANY AAC team loses to us they only have themselves to blame.
So if the AAC's reputation and RPI depends on who USF schedules this year then the league has bigger issues to fix.
Now if a school like Houston schedules like this then yes you have a right to call it horrific.
RE: Will your OOC basketball schedule be American Strong? - Nevadanatural - 07-04-2017 04:48 PM
If a schedule has 4 teams below 200 RPI and 6 over 300 then it's a horrific schedule no matter the team. The problem with those high RPI games is even if you win your RPI goes up, if you lose it goes through the roof. You're better off scheduling in the 100-200 group if you have a bad team then if you luck out and win a couple you're better off than going 8-5 against those 300+ teams.
RE: Will your OOC basketball schedule be American Strong? - HuskyU - 07-04-2017 04:54 PM
Sorry Bulls fans, but Pesik and Nevada are right on this one. Regardless of how bad you were last season or are projected to be next season, that schedule is horrendous. With that many bad RPI games, it will hurt everyone in this conference regardless of your W/L record. Additionally you are not helping to improve your attendance with that slate of home games. I hope to see better next year.
RE: Will your OOC basketball schedule be American Strong? - UofMemphis - 07-04-2017 04:57 PM
(07-04-2017 04:54 PM)HuskyU Wrote: Sorry Bulls fans, but Pesik and Nevada are right on this one. Regardless of how bad you were last season or are projected to be next season, that schedule is horrendous. With that many bad RPI games, it will hurt everyone in this conference regardless of your W/L record. Additionally you are not helping to improve your attendance with that slate of home games. I hope to see better next year.
but if they win em all Brain Gregory will look like a coaching genius....I'll withhold my opinion until 12/22 after they've played all the games.
RE: Will your OOC basketball schedule be American Strong? - HuskyU - 07-04-2017 05:03 PM
(07-04-2017 04:57 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:(07-04-2017 04:54 PM)HuskyU Wrote: Sorry Bulls fans, but Pesik and Nevada are right on this one. Regardless of how bad you were last season or are projected to be next season, that schedule is horrendous. With that many bad RPI games, it will hurt everyone in this conference regardless of your W/L record. Additionally you are not helping to improve your attendance with that slate of home games. I hope to see better next year.
but if they win em all Brain Gregory will look like a coaching genius....I'll withhold my opinion until 12/22 after they've played all the games.
Will he look like a genius while his RPI slides after each of those wins? I'd say no. USF didn't need to schedule 6 Top 100 games, but they certainly shouldn't have scheduled 6 300+ RPI games. You have to know how to play the system these days when you're not in "the club." A slate of 100-250 games would have done the job I think he intended without hurting everyone else.
RE: Will your OOC basketball schedule be American Strong? - UofMemphis - 07-04-2017 05:07 PM
(07-04-2017 05:03 PM)HuskyU Wrote:(07-04-2017 04:57 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:(07-04-2017 04:54 PM)HuskyU Wrote: Sorry Bulls fans, but Pesik and Nevada are right on this one. Regardless of how bad you were last season or are projected to be next season, that schedule is horrendous. With that many bad RPI games, it will hurt everyone in this conference regardless of your W/L record. Additionally you are not helping to improve your attendance with that slate of home games. I hope to see better next year.
but if they win em all Brain Gregory will look like a coaching genius....I'll withhold my opinion until 12/22 after they've played all the games.
Will he look like a genius while his RPI slides after each of those wins? I'd say no. USF didn't need to schedule 6 Top 100 games, but they certainly shouldn't have scheduled 6 300+ RPI games. You have to know how to play the system these days when you're not in "the club." A slate of 100-250 games would have done the job I think he intended without hurting everyone else.
In theory the AAC schedule will help clean up the RPI. I'm just saying after a 7 win season and having a new coach, I kinda get scheduling some Ws before running face first into that AAC slate.
I agree that the season after the AAC will be expecting a better schedule from USF hoops.
RE: Will your OOC basketball schedule be American Strong? - oliveandblue - 07-04-2017 05:28 PM
(07-04-2017 07:56 AM)pesik Wrote: your schedule is actually horrific ..extremely horrific ...and coming 8-5 out of that will destroy the league...
if you're going to schedule horribly you have to win most of it.. 10-3 on that schedule is a must..if you expect losses throw some good rpi games in there
we honestly need a scheduling mandate. too many teams have this mentality of "we are supposed to be horrible this year so a horrible schedule is probably better for us".. thats how you eventually end up a 1 bid league..we have the lowest ranked OOC sos ranking by any power conference and below 5 other conference who are mid-major
usf was by far the lowest rpi team of any power conference +a10/wcc (similar horrible schedule last year)...Oregon state on only 4 wins was ranked 40 spots higher ...
its a trickling effect..then memphis had the most wins of any power conference team not to make the NIT/ncaa
then smu and uc on 30 wins are only 5-6 seeds in the tourney
and pride plays into it too...Tulane schedules great because theylll do buy games...ecu/ usf are too proud to to that...and what good team wants to schedule a home and home with 260+ rpi teams
this isnt a knock on on those teams either, houston is the exact same way...we have a decent schedule this season because are expected to be a top 100 rpi team..but when we are projected bad,, our schedules are just as bad....
put a mandate of 1 top 50 rpi team and 2 other top 100 rpis, in the previous season (or projected by the aac staff) minimum/ no more than 2 300+ rpi games...or you lose ncaa credit money...make teams push their pride aside
just speaking from a houston standpoint we are too proud to do buy games unless we are forced even if we knew it would help the conference
We've had GT, Auburn, LSU, UNC, Butler, and several others at home. We like 2-1s.
Tulane also loves to schedule a buy game on the road, and then turn around to buy an even smaller school at home to "balance it out".
RE: Will your OOC basketball schedule be American Strong? - pesik - 07-04-2017 05:30 PM
(07-04-2017 03:57 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:(07-04-2017 07:56 AM)pesik Wrote:(07-04-2017 06:44 AM)Cubanbull Wrote: USF announced our nonconference schedule
Nov 10 Florida Atlantic 280
Nov 13 Morgan State 326
Nov 15 at Stetson 327
Nov 19 at Indiana 82
Nov 22 Howard 339
Nov 24 Arkansas State 114
Nov 26 Eastern Michigan 178 (12-17)
Nov 30 at Elon 163
Dec 2. at Appalachian State 295
Dec 11 Florida International 337
Dec 14 Bethune Cookman 347
Dec 18 Northern Arizona 335
Dec 21 Charlotte 245
I like our schedule for the team that we will have this year. We are expected to be at the bottom of league, so the schedule is one we should handle. We need to beat those lower RPI teams and come out better than .500 I would hope 8-5 at least
your schedule is actually horrific ..extremely horrific ...and coming 8-5 out of that will destroy the league...
if you're going to schedule horribly you have to win most of it.. 10-3 on that schedule is a must..if you expect losses throw some good rpi games in there
we honestly need a scheduling mandate. too many teams have this mentality of "we are supposed to be horrible this year so a horrible schedule is probably better for us".. thats how you eventually end up a 1 bid league..we have the lowest ranked OOC sos ranking by any power conference and below 5 other conference who are mid-major
usf was by far the lowest rpi team of any power conference +a10/wcc (similar horrible schedule last year)...Oregon state on only 4 wins was ranked 40 spots higher ...
its a trickling effect..then memphis had the most wins of any power conference team not to make the NIT/ncaa
then smu and uc on 30 wins are only 5-6 seeds in the tourney
and pride plays into it too...Tulane schedules great because theylll do buy games...ecu/ usf are too proud to to that...and what good team wants to schedule a home and home with 260+ rpi teams
this isnt a knock on on those teams either, houston is the exact same way...we have a decent schedule this season because are expected to be a top 100 rpi team..but when we are projected bad,, our schedules are just as bad....
put a mandate of 1 top 50 rpi team and 2 other top 100 rpis, in the previous season (or projected by the aac staff) minimum/ no more than 2 300+ rpi games...or you lose ncaa credit money...make teams push their pride aside
just speaking from a houston standpoint we are too proud to do buy games unless we are forced even if we knew it would help the conference
Give me a break. USF returns two players from last year's horrific team. THAT TEAM WENT 7-23 and had an RPI of 317. The rest of the team is a patch up job by a head coach that didn't have time to recruit. You are fooling yourself if you think this team would start or end with an RPI higher than 250
It is what is, this year's team will be lucky to get to 10 wins period, so if ANY AAC team loses to us they only have themselves to blame.
So if the AAC's reputation and RPI depends on who USF schedules this year then the league has bigger issues to fix.
Now if a school like Houston schedules like this then yes you have a right to call it horrific.
like i said if you dont think you are going to win games, you schedule some really good games and it will bottom out how bad you are in the rpi
usf at 7 win was 317 in the rpi last year. oregon state (4wins) tulane (6 wins) were ranked dramatically higher in the rpi...and you had a horrible schedule last year that was bad but it was way better than this year (only 2 300+rpi teams), 7 next season
the point went right over your head..even if you are going to be bad, schedule decent games it keeps floor relatively high for the lowest your rpi can be
"You are fooling yourself if you think this team would start or end with an RPI higher than 250" the worst team in every supposed good conference is about 250 on most years even if they suck...
losing to good teams boost your rpi
usf was 320 rpi team....even if we beat you, you will drag down our rpi, simply for playing you
(also you return 6, not 2) you also add 4 p5 transfers .. lets not act like you are returning some horrific team, there are numerous former 4stars on your team...
its foolish to think you will finish higher than 8....on a decent schedule you either arent knowledgeable about the rpi or secretly rooting for usf basketball to fail to think you cant reach 250-ish rpi
--boston college 9 win (worst acc team) 219 rpi
--oklahoma worst big 12 team ..168 rpi
--mizzou worst sec team 257 rpi
*oh but pesik we arent a p5* ok lets look at the 2 highest mid majors
--WCC: pepperdine, 8 wins 245 rpi
--A10: Duquesne 267 RPI
their is going to be aac ncaa/nit bubble teams who are going to wish they played 2 250 rpi teams instead of 2 320 rpi team...and if ecu ends up bad make that 4.
we are ranked the worst OOC schedules among high major conferences (+ a10, wcc) on average..one day usf will be that bubble team that falls short because some bad team thought to schedule easy because they didnt think theyd win and became a 320 rpi team
most think 4bid for 12 teams is the peak for the AAC, but 7 for 10 in the big east is achievable..this is the reason why
RE: Will your OOC basketball schedule be American Strong? - HuskyU - 07-04-2017 06:06 PM
(07-04-2017 05:07 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:(07-04-2017 05:03 PM)HuskyU Wrote:(07-04-2017 04:57 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:(07-04-2017 04:54 PM)HuskyU Wrote: Sorry Bulls fans, but Pesik and Nevada are right on this one. Regardless of how bad you were last season or are projected to be next season, that schedule is horrendous. With that many bad RPI games, it will hurt everyone in this conference regardless of your W/L record. Additionally you are not helping to improve your attendance with that slate of home games. I hope to see better next year.
but if they win em all Brain Gregory will look like a coaching genius....I'll withhold my opinion until 12/22 after they've played all the games.
Will he look like a genius while his RPI slides after each of those wins? I'd say no. USF didn't need to schedule 6 Top 100 games, but they certainly shouldn't have scheduled 6 300+ RPI games. You have to know how to play the system these days when you're not in "the club." A slate of 100-250 games would have done the job I think he intended without hurting everyone else.
In theory the AAC schedule will help clean up the RPI. I'm just saying after a 7 win season and having a new coach, I kinda get scheduling some Ws before running face first into that AAC slate.
I agree that the season after the AAC will be expecting a better schedule from USF hoops.
I think you are dead wrong here. Given the aspirations of the league, I think USF's and ECU's schedules are completely unacceptable. AAC conference play shouldn't have to "clean up" a team's RPI. IMO Aresco needs to regulate OOC schedules to make sure some schools aren't hurting the post-season dreams of others.
RE: Will your OOC basketball schedule be American Strong? - robertfoshizzle - 07-04-2017 06:18 PM
USF's schedule is disgraceful and an embarrassment to the league. We need scheduling mandates yesterday.
RE: Will your OOC basketball schedule be American Strong? - HuskyU - 07-04-2017 06:46 PM
I'm sorry but anyone who thinks USF's OOC schedule is good can either be labeled a complete troll or completely out of touch with the current landscape of college basketball. I suspect we have both in this thread.
RE: Will your OOC basketball schedule be American Strong? - BalancedManSPE - 07-04-2017 06:59 PM
(07-04-2017 06:18 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote: USF's schedule is disgraceful and an embarrassment to the league. We need scheduling mandates yesterday.
Agreed. Mandates, now.
RE: Will your OOC basketball schedule be American Strong? - Cubanbull - 07-04-2017 07:18 PM
(07-04-2017 06:46 PM)HuskyU Wrote: I'm sorry but anyone who thinks USF's OOC schedule is good can either be labeled a complete troll or completely out of touch with the current landscape of college basketball. I suspect we have both in this thread.
No one said it was a good schedule. I said it's a good schedule for USF. Sorry if we have stinking teams in it, but if our coach is going to build a better program in the future going 2-11 in OCC just so we can have an RPI of 245 vs winning 8-9 games and finishing RPI of 280 is not going to help the team. You need some wins specially early in season to at least create some hope and interest.
RE: Will your OOC basketball schedule be American Strong? - HuskyU - 07-04-2017 07:25 PM
(07-04-2017 07:18 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:(07-04-2017 06:46 PM)HuskyU Wrote: I'm sorry but anyone who thinks USF's OOC schedule is good can either be labeled a complete troll or completely out of touch with the current landscape of college basketball. I suspect we have both in this thread.
No one said it was a good schedule. I said it's a good schedule for USF. Sorry if we have stinking teams in it, but if our coach is going to build a better program in the future going 2-11 in OCC just so we can have an RPI of 245 vs winning 8-9 games and finishing RPI of 280 is not going to help the team. You need some wins specially early in season to at least create some hope and interest.
But it's not good for USF or the AAC. You will be penalized in every single one of those games...win or lose. This schedule is Lebo-esque. And NOBODY has been supportive of that kind of scheduling. You are blinded by your fanhood. Sorry.
RE: Will your OOC basketball schedule be American Strong? - pesik - 07-04-2017 07:33 PM
(07-04-2017 07:18 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:(07-04-2017 06:46 PM)HuskyU Wrote: I'm sorry but anyone who thinks USF's OOC schedule is good can either be labeled a complete troll or completely out of touch with the current landscape of college basketball. I suspect we have both in this thread.
No one said it was a good schedule. I said it's a good schedule for USF. Sorry if we have stinking teams in it, but if our coach is going to build a better program in the future going 2-11 in OCC just so we can have an RPI of 245 vs winning 8-9 games and finishing RPI of 280 is not going to help the team. You need some wins specially early in season to at least create some hope and interest.
i agree with what you are saying, i even said houston is the same way...usf will act in the best interest of usf... they arent worried about the tulsa's, houstons, uconns that will likely be fighting for a bubble spot. they are worried about making a winning culture
thats why i said their has to be a mandate from the conference for the minimum quality schedule ..usf will do the minimum exceptable at the same time not hurt the rest of the league.. someone has to look out for the conference as a whole
and in the long run it will be better for usf..because eventually usf will be that bubble team, and their will be some other bad team looking out for its best interest dragging down usfs rpi where it might need it
RE: Will your OOC basketball schedule be American Strong? - Atlanta - 07-04-2017 07:46 PM
(07-04-2017 07:33 PM)pesik Wrote:(07-04-2017 07:18 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:(07-04-2017 06:46 PM)HuskyU Wrote: I'm sorry but anyone who thinks USF's OOC schedule is good can either be labeled a complete troll or completely out of touch with the current landscape of college basketball. I suspect we have both in this thread.
No one said it was a good schedule. I said it's a good schedule for USF. Sorry if we have stinking teams in it, but if our coach is going to build a better program in the future going 2-11 in OCC just so we can have an RPI of 245 vs winning 8-9 games and finishing RPI of 280 is not going to help the team. You need some wins specially early in season to at least create some hope and interest.
i agree with what you are saying, i even said houston is the same way...usf will act in the best interest of usf... they arent worried about the tulsa's, houstons, uconns that will likely be fighting for a bubble spot. they are worried about making a winning culture
thats why i said their has to be a mandate from the conference for the minimum quality schedule ..usf will do the minimum exceptable at the same time not hurt the rest of the league.. someone has to look out for the conference as a whole
and in the long run it will be better for usf..because eventually usf will be that bubble team, and their will be some other bad team looking out for its best interest dragging down usfs rpi where it might need it
Appreciate the expressed logic in these posts. I get hammered every time I bring this up on the Memphis forum. Memphis needs a much better home OOC schedule for the conference yes but primarily because the city of Memphis is pretty sophisticated BB market & they will attend games where good MBB is played even if my Tigers are not up to par. Give the fans a nobody, a diet of 250+ home OOC games & they won't show up these days. And playing these type schools, even with wins, does nothing for the RPI/SOS for Memphis or the conference. I'd much rather Memphis re-up Gonzaga, OKST, pick up Xavier, Butler & Vandy - all of which have expressed interest in H&H series rather than Incarnate Word, UTRGV, SEMO, etc. In that regard, I do understand UTK & Ark are in the works & while many Memphis fans who hate UTK & ARK are negative on these games, they will put butts in the seats & have respectable RPI - and the MBB program needs the financial benefit of this type of game.