(05-12-2017 08:30 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  I was hoping some other would post a comment about Trump and his upcoming commencement speech on May 13th at LU and the impact it will have. My guess since no one has made a post, most feel it is a regrettable choice.

JFJr, like Sr. seems unable not to be tempted to bring LU into the political fray. With the Washington Post* reporting yesterday, http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/11/trumps-liberty-university-commencement-speech-to-f/, that protest are planned at LU, and a Sea of Red stating the FBS schedule will be released at the same time, we get a mesh of sports and politics literally on the same stage. Granted one point can be made that anytime a sitting POTUS comes to LU there will be a benefit. And on the opposite side, one can state what a truly stupid action it is. Some where between the two extremes is the reality.

Question 1. Why would JFJr. choose to ally himself with Trump with his groping of women comment, his mocking of the disabled, and now the statement of FBI Director Comey being fired to stop the investigation of White House interference?

Question 2. And as a supporter of LU athletics, why would the announcement of the FBS schedule, which is a very big deal. Maybe even one of the top and most important announcements regarding LU football, be at the same event that is now a political firecracker?

One can say the invitation was made prior to the current firestorm. The point can also be made that one could expect a controversy surrounding Trump as controversies have followed him since his announcement as a candidate for the Republican Party.

It's crazy actions and choices like this by Jr. and Sr. that have alienated many against LU. It divides rather than unites. In many ways it's the exact opposite of what "the mission" that is stated in LU's slogan. It's another example of how being a LU fan causes one to run the gamut from excitement and joy when achieving FBS to truly wonderment and unbelievability with the Trump alignment.

LU is very fortunate to have received an indy bid. It is a very small band of LU peers who would want to in bed with LU on this one as one who shares agreement in Trump's actions, beliefs and falsehoods. And combining the Trump speech with the FBS schedule announcement, LU is not only in the bed with Trump, but now under the sheets together.

*NOTE: The link was from the Washington Times, not the Washington Post.

(05-12-2017 10:51 AM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(05-12-2017 08:30 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  I was hoping some other would post a comment about Trump and his upcoming commencement speech on May 13th at LU and the impact it will have. My guess since no one has made a post, most feel it is a regrettable choice.

JFJr, like Sr. seems unable not to be tempted to bring LU into the political fray. With the Washington Post* reporting yesterday, http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/11/trumps-liberty-university-commencement-speech-to-f/, that protest are planned at LU, and a Sea of Red stating the FBS schedule will be released at the same time, we get a mesh of sports and politics literally on the same stage. Granted one point can be made that anytime a sitting POTUS comes to LU there will be a benefit. And on the opposite side, one can state what a truly stupid action it is. Some where between the two extremes is the reality.

Question 1. Why would JFJr. choose to ally himself with Trump with his groping of women comment, his mocking of the disabled, and now the statement of FBI Director Comey being fired to stop the investigation of White House interference?

Question 2. And as a supporter of LU athletics, why would the announcement of the FBS schedule, which is a very big deal. Maybe even one of the top and most important announcements regarding LU football, be at the same event that is now a political firecracker?

One can say the invitation was made prior to the current firestorm. The point can also be made that one could expect a controversy surrounding Trump as controversies have followed him since his announcement as a candidate for the Republican Party.

It's crazy actions and choices like this by Jr. and Sr. that have alienated many against LU. It divides rather than unites. In many ways it's the exact opposite of what "the mission" that is stated in LU's slogan. It's another example of how being a LU fan causes one to run the gamut from excitement and joy when achieving FBS to truly wonderment and unbelievability with the Trump alignment.

LU is very fortunate to have received an indy bid. It is a very small band of LU peers who would want to in bed with LU on this one as one who shares agreement in Trump's actions, beliefs and falsehoods. And combining the Trump speech with the FBS schedule announcement, LU is not only in the bed with Trump, but now under the sheets together.

*NOTE: The link was from the Washington Times, not the Washington Post.

I would say regardless of who it is getting a president on your campus is huge. Trump is obviously not well liked but for the president to come is something that the school can hang it's hat on. Just my opinion but I would have been excited if Obama came to my graduation, even though I was not a fan of his, because it is something very few can say.

(05-12-2017 11:59 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-12-2017 10:51 AM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(05-12-2017 08:30 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  I was hoping some other would post a comment about Trump and his upcoming commencement speech on May 13th at LU and the impact it will have. My guess since no one has made a post, most feel it is a regrettable choice.

JFJr, like Sr. seems unable not to be tempted to bring LU into the political fray. With the Washington Post* reporting yesterday, http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/11/trumps-liberty-university-commencement-speech-to-f/, that protest are planned at LU, and a Sea of Red stating the FBS schedule will be released at the same time, we get a mesh of sports and politics literally on the same stage. Granted one point can be made that anytime a sitting POTUS comes to LU there will be a benefit. And on the opposite side, one can state what a truly stupid action it is. Some where between the two extremes is the reality.

Question 1. Why would JFJr. choose to ally himself with Trump with his groping of women comment, his mocking of the disabled, and now the statement of FBI Director Comey being fired to stop the investigation of White House interference?

Question 2. And as a supporter of LU athletics, why would the announcement of the FBS schedule, which is a very big deal. Maybe even one of the top and most important announcements regarding LU football, be at the same event that is now a political firecracker?

One can say the invitation was made prior to the current firestorm. The point can also be made that one could expect a controversy surrounding Trump as controversies have followed him since his announcement as a candidate for the Republican Party.

It's crazy actions and choices like this by Jr. and Sr. that have alienated many against LU. It divides rather than unites. In many ways it's the exact opposite of what "the mission" that is stated in LU's slogan. It's another example of how being a LU fan causes one to run the gamut from excitement and joy when achieving FBS to truly wonderment and unbelievability with the Trump alignment.

LU is very fortunate to have received an indy bid. It is a very small band of LU peers who would want to in bed with LU on this one as one who shares agreement in Trump's actions, beliefs and falsehoods. And combining the Trump speech with the FBS schedule announcement, LU is not only in the bed with Trump, but now under the sheets together.

*NOTE: The link was from the Washington Times, not the Washington Post.

I would say regardless of who it is getting a president on your campus is huge. Trump is obviously not well liked but for the president to come is something that the school can hang it's hat on. Just my opinion but I would have been excited if Obama came to my graduation, even though I was not a fan of his, because it is something very few can say.

There are benefits with a POTUS visit to a university. On this occasion, the negatives of the visit greatly outweigh the positives.

(05-12-2017 08:30 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  I was hoping some other would post a comment about Trump and his upcoming commencement speech on May 13th at LU and the impact it will have. My guess since no one has made a post, most feel it is a regrettable choice.

JFJr, like Sr. seems unable not to be tempted to bring LU into the political fray. With the Washington Post* reporting yesterday, http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/11/trumps-liberty-university-commencement-speech-to-f/, that protest are planned at LU, and a Sea of Red stating the FBS schedule will be released at the same time, we get a mesh of sports and politics literally on the same stage. Granted one point can be made that anytime a sitting POTUS comes to LU there will be a benefit. And on the opposite side, one can state what a truly stupid action it is. Some where between the two extremes is the reality.

Question 1. Why would JFJr. choose to ally himself with Trump with his groping of women comment, his mocking of the disabled, and now the statement of FBI Director Comey being fired to stop the investigation of White House interference?

Question 2. And as a supporter of LU athletics, why would the announcement of the FBS schedule, which is a very big deal. Maybe even one of the top and most important announcements regarding LU football, be at the same event that is now a political firecracker?

One can say the invitation was made prior to the current firestorm. The point can also be made that one could expect a controversy surrounding Trump as controversies have followed him since his announcement as a candidate for the Republican Party.

It's crazy actions and choices like this by Jr. and Sr. that have alienated many against LU. It divides rather than unites. In many ways it's the exact opposite of what "the mission" that is stated in LU's slogan. It's another example of how being a LU fan causes one to run the gamut from excitement and joy when achieving FBS to truly wonderment and unbelievability with the Trump alignment.

LU is very fortunate to have received an indy bid. It is a very small band of LU peers who would want to in bed with LU on this one as one who shares agreement in Trump's actions, beliefs and falsehoods. And combining the Trump speech with the FBS schedule announcement, LU is not only in the bed with Trump, but now under the sheets together.

*NOTE: The link was from the Washington Times, not the Washington Post.

(05-12-2017 06:19 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(05-12-2017 11:59 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-12-2017 10:51 AM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(05-12-2017 08:30 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  I was hoping some other would post a comment about Trump and his upcoming commencement speech on May 13th at LU and the impact it will have. My guess since no one has made a post, most feel it is a regrettable choice.

JFJr, like Sr. seems unable not to be tempted to bring LU into the political fray. With the Washington Post* reporting yesterday, http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/11/trumps-liberty-university-commencement-speech-to-f/, that protest are planned at LU, and a Sea of Red stating the FBS schedule will be released at the same time, we get a mesh of sports and politics literally on the same stage. Granted one point can be made that anytime a sitting POTUS comes to LU there will be a benefit. And on the opposite side, one can state what a truly stupid action it is. Some where between the two extremes is the reality.

Question 1. Why would JFJr. choose to ally himself with Trump with his groping of women comment, his mocking of the disabled, and now the statement of FBI Director Comey being fired to stop the investigation of White House interference?

Question 2. And as a supporter of LU athletics, why would the announcement of the FBS schedule, which is a very big deal. Maybe even one of the top and most important announcements regarding LU football, be at the same event that is now a political firecracker?

One can say the invitation was made prior to the current firestorm. The point can also be made that one could expect a controversy surrounding Trump as controversies have followed him since his announcement as a candidate for the Republican Party.

It's crazy actions and choices like this by Jr. and Sr. that have alienated many against LU. It divides rather than unites. In many ways it's the exact opposite of what "the mission" that is stated in LU's slogan. It's another example of how being a LU fan causes one to run the gamut from excitement and joy when achieving FBS to truly wonderment and unbelievability with the Trump alignment.

LU is very fortunate to have received an indy bid. It is a very small band of LU peers who would want to in bed with LU on this one as one who shares agreement in Trump's actions, beliefs and falsehoods. And combining the Trump speech with the FBS schedule announcement, LU is not only in the bed with Trump, but now under the sheets together.

*NOTE: The link was from the Washington Times, not the Washington Post.

I would say regardless of who it is getting a president on your campus is huge. Trump is obviously not well liked but for the president to come is something that the school can hang it's hat on. Just my opinion but I would have been excited if Obama came to my graduation, even though I was not a fan of his, because it is something very few can say.

There are benefits with a POTUS visit to a university. On this occasion, the negatives of the visit greatly outweigh the positives.

I don't know that the negatives outweigh the positives. What are the negatives? When we look back in 10 years, 20 years, etc., will anyone remember the Comey situation, or even remember his name? This is all so silly. We are having the sitting President of the United States of America as our commencement speaker. How often does that happen? Liberty is in rare air. George H.W. Bush did it at LU too and do you know what I know about the controversy that happened then? I don't know anything about any controversy at the time because people forget these things and it will be forgotten in the future. Nobody here was talking about it because people come here to talk sports, and this is basically the offseason for LU sports as the spring sports wrap up. Fans are much more interested in talking about football and basketball, of which both are not in season.

(05-12-2017 10:03 PM)SENOREIDA Wrote:  

(05-12-2017 08:30 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  I was hoping some other would post a comment about Trump and his upcoming commencement speech on May 13th at LU and the impact it will have. My guess since no one has made a post, most feel it is a regrettable choice.

JFJr, like Sr. seems unable not to be tempted to bring LU into the political fray. With the Washington Post* reporting yesterday, http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/11/trumps-liberty-university-commencement-speech-to-f/, that protest are planned at LU, and a Sea of Red stating the FBS schedule will be released at the same time, we get a mesh of sports and politics literally on the same stage. Granted one point can be made that anytime a sitting POTUS comes to LU there will be a benefit. And on the opposite side, one can state what a truly stupid action it is. Some where between the two extremes is the reality.

Question 1. Why would JFJr. choose to ally himself with Trump with his groping of women comment, his mocking of the disabled, and now the statement of FBI Director Comey being fired to stop the investigation of White House interference?

Question 2. And as a supporter of LU athletics, why would the announcement of the FBS schedule, which is a very big deal. Maybe even one of the top and most important announcements regarding LU football, be at the same event that is now a political firecracker?

One can say the invitation was made prior to the current firestorm. The point can also be made that one could expect a controversy surrounding Trump as controversies have followed him since his announcement as a candidate for the Republican Party.

It's crazy actions and choices like this by Jr. and Sr. that have alienated many against LU. It divides rather than unites. In many ways it's the exact opposite of what "the mission" that is stated in LU's slogan. It's another example of how being a LU fan causes one to run the gamut from excitement and joy when achieving FBS to truly wonderment and unbelievability with the Trump alignment.

LU is very fortunate to have received an indy bid. It is a very small band of LU peers who would want to in bed with LU on this one as one who shares agreement in Trump's actions, beliefs and falsehoods. And combining the Trump speech with the FBS schedule announcement, LU is not only in the bed with Trump, but now under the sheets together.

*NOTE: The link was from the Washington Times, not the Washington Post.

1) Why would JFJr choose to ally himself with a person who has covered up and enabled rapes on college campuses?

2) Because Jr loves attention, when's a better time to tell the world you guys got a waiver then when you have a sitting president speak on your campus?

(05-13-2017 08:03 PM)fanhood Wrote:  Damn, as a neutral third party observer, I am shocked people here are not enthused to have the President of the United States giving a commencement address.

Secondly, Liberty University has been involved in politics for years. Embrace it. I have never been on your campus, but I respect your University for what it stands for.

Now win some football games! I will be rooting for you.

(05-13-2017 10:02 PM)SlyFox Wrote:  Even the strongest Never Trumpers at LU seem to be conceding that he gave a great speech. If he were that charming and lighthearted on a regular basis I believe he could be a much more effective POTUS.

(05-14-2017 03:21 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  A man I once knew worked for Falwell Sr years ago. His job was basically to call on the elderly and try to have them sign over their estates to Farwell at the time of their death. It was obvious then and even more so today Falwell was more about money and feeding his own ego than anything spiritual. Now Jr.. shows his true colors making indefensible comments about carrying guns on campus and shooting Muslims. Hiring an AD who completely and utterly lost his moral compass by covering up multiple rapes and now having a man of such low moral character invited to campus for commencement.
I can tell you as an outsider, it looks like Jr. has sold his soul for the gold. Trying to build a name in order to "spread the word" can't be done by lying in bed with the morally bankrupt. It will, ultimately, spell the end of Liberty.

(05-14-2017 04:35 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 03:21 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  A man I once knew worked for Falwell Sr years ago. His job was basically to call on the elderly and try to have them sign over their estates to Farwell at the time of their death. It was obvious then and even more so today Falwell was more about money and feeding his own ego than anything spiritual. Now Jr.. shows his true colors making indefensible comments about carrying guns on campus and shooting Muslims. Hiring an AD who completely and utterly lost his moral compass by covering up multiple rapes and now having a man of such low moral character invited to campus for commencement.
I can tell you as an outsider, it looks like Jr. has sold his soul for the gold. Trying to build a name in order to "spread the word" can't be done by lying in bed with the morally bankrupt. It will, ultimately, spell the end of Liberty.

This guy lol

(05-14-2017 05:36 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 04:35 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 03:21 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  A man I once knew worked for Falwell Sr years ago. His job was basically to call on the elderly and try to have them sign over their estates to Farwell at the time of their death. It was obvious then and even more so today Falwell was more about money and feeding his own ego than anything spiritual. Now Jr.. shows his true colors making indefensible comments about carrying guns on campus and shooting Muslims. Hiring an AD who completely and utterly lost his moral compass by covering up multiple rapes and now having a man of such low moral character invited to campus for commencement.
I can tell you as an outsider, it looks like Jr. has sold his soul for the gold. Trying to build a name in order to "spread the word" can't be done by lying in bed with the morally bankrupt. It will, ultimately, spell the end of Liberty.

This guy lol

Somebody needs a time out? It's probably best to let those comments be made on other boards and not brought here. They are easy to find if one is looking
for them elsewhere.

(05-14-2017 03:21 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  A man I once knew worked for Falwell Sr years ago. His job was basically to call on the elderly and try to have them sign over their estates to Farwell at the time of their death.