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Future of the CAA Tournament - Seahawk Nation 08 - 03-15-2017 03:23 PM

Just found this over at the W&M board: http://pilotonline.com/news/government/local/game-on-virginia-beach-will-accept-arena-financing-deal-sessoms/article_94886f91-e6cc-506f-98ba-006dcffe0fc8.html

Looks like a new arena is a "go" in Virginia Beach, and though it's pure speculation at this time, it could conceivably be a contender to host the CAA Tournament down the road.

I thought North Charleston was a perfect location for this 3-year run, but we know there's a chance it gets moved by the time 2020 comes around. Knowing this, if it does NOT go back to North Charleston beyond 2019....is Virginia Beach viable? What other cities do you think seem likely to submit bids?


RE: Future of the CAA Tournament - Seahawkhoops - 03-15-2017 03:26 PM

(03-15-2017 03:23 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  Just found this over at the W&M board: http://pilotonline.com/news/government/local/game-on-virginia-beach-will-accept-arena-financing-deal-sessoms/article_94886f91-e6cc-506f-98ba-006dcffe0fc8.html

Looks like a new arena is a "go" in Virginia Beach, and though it's pure speculation at this time, it could conceivably be a contender to host the CAA Tournament down the road.

I thought North Charleston was a perfect location for this 3-year run, but we know there's a chance it gets moved by the time 2020 comes around. Knowing this, if it does NOT go back to North Charleston beyond 2019....is Virginia Beach viable? What other cities do you think seem likely to submit bids?

I know that would make CG happy! Same type drive for me, VB is a decent location.


RE: Future of the CAA Tournament - 82hawk - 03-15-2017 04:06 PM

Given the choices, I like it. Moving it to Baltimore to placate northern schools who have no interest in their basketball programs was a mistake. VB is close enough for the Tribe to bring a very good crowd and close enough for UNCW and Elon to travel as well. Still a bit of a stretch for CofC though.


RE: Future of the CAA Tournament - solohawks - 03-15-2017 04:06 PM

VB and Charleston are about the same trip. One is north and the other is south. Rotating between the two would be fine with me


Future of the CAA Tournament - Seahawkhoops - 03-15-2017 06:14 PM

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Given the choices, I like it. Moving it to Baltimore to placate northern schools who have no interest in their basketball programs was a mistake. VB is close enough for the Tribe to bring a very good crowd and close enough for UNCW and Elon to travel as well. Still a bit of a stretch for CofC though.
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COC gets to host for several years they can suck it up and drive a bit. :)


RE: Future of the CAA Tournament - bricksnivy - 03-15-2017 06:22 PM

Shorter drive to VB from Raleigh, so that would be nice. Charleston is one of my favorite cities though.


RE: Future of the CAA Tournament - 70shawk - 03-15-2017 07:28 PM

The CAA (and others) may need to rethink the whole tournament format.

Can you imagine what the crowd would have been like had, say, Northeastern and Towson been the championship game teams? Crickets.


Future of the CAA Tournament - CG_Hawk06 - 03-15-2017 07:49 PM

Va Beach!!!!! Make it happen CAA!

Lol


RE: Future of the CAA Tournament - 82hawk - 03-15-2017 08:22 PM

(03-15-2017 07:28 PM)70shawk Wrote:  The CAA (and others) may need to rethink the whole tournament format.

Can you imagine what the crowd would have been like had, say, Northeastern and Towson been the championship game teams? Crickets.


How in the world do you fix crappy fan bases? We could have the tournament AT Northeastern and they wouldn't get 1,000 of their own fans to the game.


RE: Future of the CAA Tournament - sctvman - 03-15-2017 08:36 PM

(03-15-2017 07:28 PM)70shawk Wrote:  The CAA (and others) may need to rethink the whole tournament format.

Can you imagine what the crowd would have been like had, say, Northeastern and Towson been the championship game teams? Crickets.

Towson might have brought 200 fans. That game had maybe 1000 or so. And that was in the first half.

CofC hasn't traveled well to outside conference tourneys in the past few years. The 3 years the tourney was in Baltimore, we didn't bring more than a couple hundred. Same in Asheville when they first had it in the SoCon. Chattanooga was even worse.

The year we beat Davidson and Steph Curry in the SoCon semifinals, we had to play Chattanooga in basically a road game in the finals, playing our 4th game in 4 days because they went by division.

Chattanooga won their division at 11-9 and 15-16 overall, while CofC finished 15-5 and 23-7; we had to play an extra game because we were 3rd in our division; while Chattanooga had the tourney on their home court. They had it one year in Charlotte, thinking Curry was gonna come back, and it backfired on them.


RE: Future of the CAA Tournament - 70shawk - 03-15-2017 08:52 PM

(03-15-2017 08:22 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 07:28 PM)70shawk Wrote:  The CAA (and others) may need to rethink the whole tournament format.

Can you imagine what the crowd would have been like had, say, Northeastern and Towson been the championship game teams? Crickets.


How in the world do you fix crappy fan bases? We could have the tournament AT Northeastern and they wouldn't get 1,000 of their own fans to the game.

Some other tournaments have moved to a format where each of the rounds are at the home arena of the higher seeded team. That's one way to deal with it.


RE: Future of the CAA Tournament - Proff - 03-15-2017 10:22 PM

(03-15-2017 08:52 PM)70shawk Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 08:22 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 07:28 PM)70shawk Wrote:  The CAA (and others) may need to rethink the whole tournament format.

Can you imagine what the crowd would have been like had, say, Northeastern and Towson been the championship game teams? Crickets.


How in the world do you fix crappy fan bases? We could have the tournament AT Northeastern and they wouldn't get 1,000 of their own fans to the game.

Some other tournaments have moved to a format where each of the rounds are at the home arena of the higher seeded team. That's one way to deal with it.
I don't remember the year but the CAA played the first round at the home courts of the top four seeds. The semi-finals & finals were then played at one site.

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RE: Future of the CAA Tournament - Seahawk Nation 08 - 03-15-2017 10:58 PM

(03-15-2017 08:52 PM)70shawk Wrote:  Some other tournaments have moved to a format where each of the rounds are at the home arena of the higher seeded team. That's one way to deal with it.

Don't like that format for the CAA. It works for smaller leagues where a small gym would be fine, but you could never have fit all the Charleston-UNCW fans from this year's title game in Trask.


Future of the CAA Tournament - geewizNU - 03-16-2017 12:32 AM

(03-15-2017 08:22 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 07:28 PM)70shawk Wrote:  The CAA (and others) may need to rethink the whole tournament format.

Can you imagine what the crowd would have been like had, say, Northeastern and Towson been the championship game teams? Crickets.


How in the world do you fix crappy fan bases? We could have the tournament AT Northeastern and they wouldn't get 1,000 of their own fans to the game.

OK. Now you're just talking out of your arse.

When we played the season openers vs BU at the Boston Garden the last few years, we easily had 600 plus at the games, students and alumni. A far cry from what BU had.

It will never happen, but we would easily top 1,000. Especially a semi-final or championship game.

The Garden is a quick 10 minute trolley/subway ride from campus.

Keep the tourney in the little southern towns. I could care less. We can win anywhere.

I'd like to see how many southern fans would make the trek up to Boston, especially if their teams underachieved in the regular season. Not many would be my guess.

But like I said, it will never happen.


RE: Future of the CAA Tournament - 70shawk - 03-16-2017 04:36 AM

(03-16-2017 12:32 AM)geewizNU Wrote:  I'd like to see how many southern fans would make the trek up to Boston, especially if their teams underachieved in the regular season. Not many would be my guess.

Actually, I think your point is well taken.

Frankly, while there was a good crowd in the CAA tournament final game, the gym was only half full this year. And that was with the top two seeded teams playing in the IDEAL place for those particular teams.


RE: Future of the CAA Tournament - 70shawk - 03-16-2017 04:37 AM

(03-15-2017 10:58 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  Don't like that format for the CAA. It works for smaller leagues where a small gym would be fine, but you could never have fit all the Charleston-UNCW fans from this year's title game in Trask.

That's the idea.


RE: Future of the CAA Tournament - bricksnivy - 03-16-2017 06:03 AM

(03-16-2017 04:37 AM)70shawk Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 10:58 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  Don't like that format for the CAA. It works for smaller leagues where a small gym would be fine, but you could never have fit all the Charleston-UNCW fans from this year's title game in Trask.

That's the idea.

Why is that ideal?


RE: Future of the CAA Tournament - Seahawkhoops - 03-16-2017 08:01 AM

(03-16-2017 12:32 AM)geewizNU Wrote:  [quote='82hawk' pid='14183682' dateline='1489627343']
[quote='70shawk' pid='14183490' dateline='1489624099']
The CAA (and others) may need to rethink the whole tournament format.



I'd like to see how many southern fans would make the trek up to Boston, especially if their teams underachieved in the regular season. Not many would be my guess.

Legit excuse this year, but let's not act like they traveled well even when you were in it!


RE: Future of the CAA Tournament - geezerhawkdad - 03-16-2017 09:07 AM

If the Southern Conference ever leaves Asheville, NC, it is an excellent place for a mid-major tournament. The arena seats around 6,000 fans and once you park, you can walk to dozens of restaurants.


RE: Future of the CAA Tournament - Seahawk Nation 08 - 03-16-2017 09:10 AM

(03-16-2017 09:07 AM)geezerhawkdad Wrote:  If the Southern Conference ever leaves Asheville, NC, it is an excellent place for a mid-major tournament. The arena seats around 6,000 fans and once you park, you can walk to dozens of restaurants.

Begs the question why they'd leave if it's such a good locale!

Maybe we can steal it away from them instead?